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13:28:07 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world
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13:28:09 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 7394
13:28:10 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see WAI_RDWG()9:30AM scheduled to start in 2 minutes
13:28:10 <trackbot> Meeting: Research and Development Working Group Teleconference
13:28:10 <trackbot> Date: 01 August 2012
13:28:32 <Zakim> WAI_RDWG()9:30AM has now started
13:28:39 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
13:30:08 <vivienne> zakim, +[IPcaller] is me
13:30:08 <Zakim> sorry, vivienne, I do not recognize a party named '+[IPcaller]'
13:30:16 <vivienne> zakim, mute me
13:30:16 <Zakim> sorry, vivienne, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you
13:30:23 <Zakim> +Shadi
13:30:25 <Zakim> +Shawn
13:30:42 <vivienne> zakim, +IPcaller is me
13:30:42 <Zakim> sorry, vivienne, I do not recognize a party named '+IPcaller'
13:30:48 <sharper> sharper has joined #rd
13:30:56 <vivienne> zakim, IPCaller is me
13:30:56 <Zakim> +vivienne; got it
13:31:10 <sharper> zakim, agenda?
13:31:10 <Zakim> I see nothing on the agenda
13:31:21 <sharper> trackbot, start meeting
13:31:21 <sharper> zakim, please clear the agenda
13:31:21 <Zakim> agenda cleared
13:31:23 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world
13:31:25 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 7394
13:31:25 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see WAI_RDWG()9:30AM scheduled to start now
13:31:26 <trackbot> Meeting: Research and Development Working Group Teleconference
13:31:26 <trackbot> Date: 01 August 2012
13:32:19 <sharper> zakim, code?
13:32:19 <Zakim> the conference code is 7394 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), sharper
13:34:01 <shawn> zakim, who is on the phone?
13:34:01 <Zakim> I notice WAI_RDWG()9:30AM has restarted
13:34:02 <shadi> zakim, who is on the phone?
13:34:02 <Zakim> On the phone I see vivienne, Shadi, Shawn, ??P12
13:34:02 <Zakim> On the phone I see vivienne, Shadi, Shawn, ??P12
13:34:11 <sharper> zakim, ??P12 is sharper
13:34:11 <Zakim> +sharper; got it
13:35:23 <shawn> for the TC4R (text customization for readability) topic, afaik, what remains is:
13:35:23 <shawn> * Finalize co-chairs & scientific committee
13:35:23 <shawn> * Provide HTML template(s) - decide how prescriptive to be - decide how to allow for ethnographic studies, "position papers", and other such contributions 
13:36:30 <sharper> zakim, who's here?
13:36:30 <Zakim> On the phone I see vivienne, Shadi, Shawn, sharper
13:36:32 <Zakim> On IRC I see sharper, Zakim, RRSAgent, vivienne, shawn, nonge, shadi, Mate, trackbot
13:37:30 <shawn> http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/2012/text-customization/cfp.html
13:38:32 <shawn> http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/wiki/Text_Customization_Symposium_draft_page#Call_for_Papers
13:39:30 <peter> peter has joined #rd
13:39:38 <shawn> ltest list of confirmed SC: http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/2012/text-customization/Overview.html
13:39:53 <shawn> s/ ltest list of confirmed/ latest list of confirmed/
13:40:09 <peter> hello all :)
13:41:04 <Zakim> +??P13
13:41:10 <peter> Zakim, ??p13 is me
13:41:10 <Zakim> +peter; got it
13:41:15 <peter> Zakim, mute me
13:41:15 <Zakim> peter should now be muted
13:41:17 <peter> sorry :)
13:42:01 <vivienne> maybe he is?
13:42:15 <peter> :-)
13:45:46 <shadi> q+
13:46:17 <shawn> slh: what do we need in a co-chair?
13:46:25 <shawn> simon: someone who can write the report
13:46:40 <shawn> ... SC judge the resaerch
13:46:46 <shawn> ... need people who can complete the work
13:47:08 <shawn> ack shadi
13:47:23 <shawn> saz: agree. need someone who will follow through
13:47:30 <shawn> ... complementary roles
13:47:50 <shawn> ... more in research side would be useful
13:47:57 <shawn> ... connect dots to other peices
13:48:31 <shawn> ... mentinoed two peole who are more developers, practioners
13:48:50 <shawn> ... one peson from research/academic, one practioner, + slh with standardization hat on
13:50:05 <shawn> slh: I was expecting to write most of the report. so I really want complementary to fill in my "weaknesses"
13:51:11 <shawn> saz: some people might bring bigger perspective, but might not be as active. some input and review, but not a primary writier
13:51:35 <shawn> s/so I really want complementary to fill in my "weaknesses"/so I really want complementary to my work/
13:53:38 <shawn> simon: research report...
13:53:57 <shadi> q+ to mention process aspect
13:54:19 <shadi> ack me
13:54:19 <Zakim> shadi, you wanted to mention process aspect
13:54:28 <shawn> [ Shawn envisions a research report and a less formal guidance thingie ]
13:54:50 <shawn> saz: chairs will need to join the group
13:55:00 <shawn> ... (so under IPR)
13:55:21 <vivienne> zakim, mute me
13:55:22 <Zakim> vivienne should now be muted
13:55:37 <shawn> q+ to ask only charis or also SC?
13:56:52 <shawn> ack me
13:56:52 <Zakim> shawn, you wanted to ask only charis or also SC?
13:57:13 <peter> q+
13:58:07 <shawn> saz: only SC if actively writing stuff
13:58:23 <peter> ack me
13:58:38 <peter> Zakim, mute me
13:58:39 <Zakim> peter should now be muted
13:58:45 <peter> :-) I do every day
13:59:02 <peter> (shawn: sure email it over)
13:59:41 <shadi> q+
13:59:52 <shadi> ack me
14:00:11 <shawn> simon: not be overly prescriptive
14:00:41 <shawn> saz: can make the blurbs after the headings - expand or contexualize them for a specific heading
14:01:26 <shawn> template: http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/2012/mobile/template
14:02:49 <peter> agreed strategy->approach
14:04:20 <shawn> shawn: not make then use these exact headings?
14:04:30 <shawn> simon: I say yes
14:05:56 <shawn> simon: good to have consistency across papers
14:06:01 <vivienne> does it make it easier to do the research note after the symposium if the same headings are used?
14:06:10 <peter> maybe "strongly encourage the use of this template outline …"
14:06:23 <shawn> saz: think some papers did change headings a bit. so saying "use this as a starting point" is too open
14:07:07 <shawn> s/think some papers did change headings a bit. so saying "use this as a starting point" is too open/(think some papers did change headings a bit.) saying "use this as a starting point" is too open/
14:11:04 <shawn> pre-call email: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ig/2012AprJun/0169.html
14:12:35 <shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/wiki/Topic_4_pre-call
14:13:54 <shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/wiki/Topic_3_Timeline
14:15:35 <shawn> http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/wiki/Easy_to_Read
14:15:53 <shawn> slh: we won't have time for pre-call for E2R. Need to finalize the Symposium page
14:16:06 <shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/wiki/Easy_to_Read
14:28:07 <shawn> review process
14:28:13 <shawn> chairs triage
14:28:17 <shawn> send to reviewers
14:28:22 <shawn> reviwers submit comments
14:28:44 <shawn> (Open Conf)
14:29:07 <shawn> after reviews in, send email to all authors. here are the reviews. you have the chance to rebut
14:29:32 <shawn> authors usually rebut within a couple days
14:29:53 <shawn> chairs then look at reviews & rebuttals.
14:30:46 <shawn> meta review. chairs make decsion on accept or not. inform accepted on condition that xyz issues are addressed
14:30:50 <shawn> one week OK
14:31:01 <shawn> submit "camera-ready copy"
14:37:38 <sharper> Well Done!
14:37:39 <sharper> You now need to create your Camera Ready Copy for publication no later than March 16th; here is what you need to do:
14:37:39 <sharper>     Technical papers are up to 10 pages, communications up to 4 pages, and all other papers are 2 pages;
14:37:39 <sharper>     Take a final look at your responsibility as an author;
14:37:40 <sharper>     Make the revisions as suggested by your reviewers and as discussed in your rebuttals (this is part of you implicit contract with us to publish);
14:37:41 <sharper>     Make sure you have changed your copyright block to bottom left of the front page – so that the ‘Submission Type’ states either ‘Technical’, ‘Communication’, ‘Microsoft Challenge’, ‘Google Student Award’, ‘Keynote’, or ‘After Dinner’; Example: W4A2012 – Technical or W4A2012 – Communication.
14:37:45 <sharper>     Change your ISBN to this years number of 978-1-4503-1019-2 / in word just replace the x’s on the bottom line of the block, in the LaTeX use \crdata{xxxx};
14:37:49 <sharper>     Now you must register so we know you intend to come along and present; Notice that deadline for early bird registration is on March 12th.
14:37:51 <sharper>     Send your completed accessible papers back via email to W4A General Chairs but in your email add a plain text version of your title, abstract, authors and their affiliations, and finally you W4A registration number;
14:37:54 <sharper>     Take a look at your responsibility as a presenter; The W3C-WAI provides some resources to make your presentations accessible in How to Make Presentations Accessible to All.
14:37:57 <sharper>     As a presenter you are making an implicit agreement to be filmed or recorded if the W4A decides to create Audio Visual resources as the conference proceeds;
14:38:00 <sharper>     You will then receive an email from the ACM detailing their copyright requirements, please follow these to the letter as we cannot publish without your copyright forms;
14:38:03 <sharper>     Find the procedures to get your visa;
14:38:05 <sharper>     Remember to add yourself to our Lanyrd Conference.
14:38:07 <sharper> We are really looking forward to meeting you at W4A 2012, and you will bet more logistical information by email direct to you nearer to the conference dates.
14:39:12 <vivienne> bye now everyone
14:39:13 <Zakim> -Shawn
14:39:16 <vivienne> vivienne has left #rd
14:39:23 <Zakim> -vivienne
14:39:25 <Zakim> -Shadi
14:39:40 <Zakim> -sharper
14:44:41 <Zakim> disconnecting the lone participant, peter, in WAI_RDWG()9:30AM
14:44:42 <Zakim> WAI_RDWG()9:30AM has ended
14:44:42 <Zakim> Attendees were Shadi, Shawn, vivienne, sharper, peter
14:47:55 <shadi> trackbot, end meeting
14:47:55 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
14:47:55 <Zakim> sorry, trackbot, I don't know what conference this is
14:48:03 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
14:48:03 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/08/01-rd-minutes.html trackbot
14:48:04 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
14:48:04 <RRSAgent> I see no action items