IRC log of rd on 2012-08-01

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13:28:05 [RRSAgent]
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logging to
13:28:07 [trackbot]
RRSAgent, make logs world
13:28:07 [Zakim]
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Zakim, this will be 7394
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ok, trackbot; I see WAI_RDWG()9:30AM scheduled to start in 2 minutes
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Meeting: Research and Development Working Group Teleconference
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Date: 01 August 2012
13:28:32 [Zakim]
WAI_RDWG()9:30AM has now started
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13:30:08 [vivienne]
zakim, +[IPcaller] is me
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sorry, vivienne, I do not recognize a party named '+[IPcaller]'
13:30:16 [vivienne]
zakim, mute me
13:30:16 [Zakim]
sorry, vivienne, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you
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13:30:42 [vivienne]
zakim, +IPcaller is me
13:30:42 [Zakim]
sorry, vivienne, I do not recognize a party named '+IPcaller'
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13:30:56 [vivienne]
zakim, IPCaller is me
13:30:56 [Zakim]
+vivienne; got it
13:31:10 [sharper]
zakim, agenda?
13:31:10 [Zakim]
I see nothing on the agenda
13:31:21 [sharper]
trackbot, start meeting
13:31:21 [sharper]
zakim, please clear the agenda
13:31:21 [Zakim]
agenda cleared
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RRSAgent, make logs world
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Zakim, this will be 7394
13:31:25 [Zakim]
ok, trackbot; I see WAI_RDWG()9:30AM scheduled to start now
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Meeting: Research and Development Working Group Teleconference
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Date: 01 August 2012
13:32:19 [sharper]
zakim, code?
13:32:19 [Zakim]
the conference code is 7394 (tel:+1.617.761.6200, sharper
13:34:01 [shawn]
zakim, who is on the phone?
13:34:01 [Zakim]
I notice WAI_RDWG()9:30AM has restarted
13:34:02 [shadi]
zakim, who is on the phone?
13:34:02 [Zakim]
On the phone I see vivienne, Shadi, Shawn, ??P12
13:34:02 [Zakim]
On the phone I see vivienne, Shadi, Shawn, ??P12
13:34:11 [sharper]
zakim, ??P12 is sharper
13:34:11 [Zakim]
+sharper; got it
13:35:23 [shawn]
for the TC4R (text customization for readability) topic, afaik, what remains is:
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* Finalize co-chairs & scientific committee
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* Provide HTML template(s) - decide how prescriptive to be - decide how to allow for ethnographic studies, "position papers", and other such contributions
13:36:30 [sharper]
zakim, who's here?
13:36:30 [Zakim]
On the phone I see vivienne, Shadi, Shawn, sharper
13:36:32 [Zakim]
On IRC I see sharper, Zakim, RRSAgent, vivienne, shawn, nonge, shadi, Mate, trackbot
13:37:30 [shawn]
13:38:32 [shawn]
13:39:30 [peter]
peter has joined #rd
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ltest list of confirmed SC:
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s/ ltest list of confirmed/ latest list of confirmed/
13:40:09 [peter]
hello all :)
13:41:04 [Zakim]
13:41:10 [peter]
Zakim, ??p13 is me
13:41:10 [Zakim]
+peter; got it
13:41:15 [peter]
Zakim, mute me
13:41:15 [Zakim]
peter should now be muted
13:41:17 [peter]
sorry :)
13:42:01 [vivienne]
maybe he is?
13:42:15 [peter]
13:45:46 [shadi]
13:46:17 [shawn]
slh: what do we need in a co-chair?
13:46:25 [shawn]
simon: someone who can write the report
13:46:40 [shawn]
... SC judge the resaerch
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... need people who can complete the work
13:47:08 [shawn]
ack shadi
13:47:23 [shawn]
saz: agree. need someone who will follow through
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... complementary roles
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... more in research side would be useful
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... connect dots to other peices
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... mentinoed two peole who are more developers, practioners
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... one peson from research/academic, one practioner, + slh with standardization hat on
13:50:05 [shawn]
slh: I was expecting to write most of the report. so I really want complementary to fill in my "weaknesses"
13:51:11 [shawn]
saz: some people might bring bigger perspective, but might not be as active. some input and review, but not a primary writier
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s/so I really want complementary to fill in my "weaknesses"/so I really want complementary to my work/
13:53:38 [shawn]
simon: research report...
13:53:57 [shadi]
q+ to mention process aspect
13:54:19 [shadi]
ack me
13:54:19 [Zakim]
shadi, you wanted to mention process aspect
13:54:28 [shawn]
[ Shawn envisions a research report and a less formal guidance thingie ]
13:54:50 [shawn]
saz: chairs will need to join the group
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... (so under IPR)
13:55:21 [vivienne]
zakim, mute me
13:55:22 [Zakim]
vivienne should now be muted
13:55:37 [shawn]
q+ to ask only charis or also SC?
13:56:52 [shawn]
ack me
13:56:52 [Zakim]
shawn, you wanted to ask only charis or also SC?
13:57:13 [peter]
13:58:07 [shawn]
saz: only SC if actively writing stuff
13:58:23 [peter]
ack me
13:58:38 [peter]
Zakim, mute me
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peter should now be muted
13:58:45 [peter]
:-) I do every day
13:59:02 [peter]
(shawn: sure email it over)
13:59:41 [shadi]
13:59:52 [shadi]
ack me
14:00:11 [shawn]
simon: not be overly prescriptive
14:00:41 [shawn]
saz: can make the blurbs after the headings - expand or contexualize them for a specific heading
14:01:26 [shawn]
14:02:49 [peter]
agreed strategy->approach
14:04:20 [shawn]
shawn: not make then use these exact headings?
14:04:30 [shawn]
simon: I say yes
14:05:56 [shawn]
simon: good to have consistency across papers
14:06:01 [vivienne]
does it make it easier to do the research note after the symposium if the same headings are used?
14:06:10 [peter]
maybe "strongly encourage the use of this template outline …"
14:06:23 [shawn]
saz: think some papers did change headings a bit. so saying "use this as a starting point" is too open
14:07:07 [shawn]
s/think some papers did change headings a bit. so saying "use this as a starting point" is too open/(think some papers did change headings a bit.) saying "use this as a starting point" is too open/
14:11:04 [shawn]
pre-call email:
14:12:35 [shadi]
14:13:54 [shadi]
14:15:35 [shawn]
14:15:53 [shawn]
slh: we won't have time for pre-call for E2R. Need to finalize the Symposium page
14:16:06 [shadi]
14:28:07 [shawn]
review process
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chairs triage
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send to reviewers
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reviwers submit comments
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(Open Conf)
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after reviews in, send email to all authors. here are the reviews. you have the chance to rebut
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authors usually rebut within a couple days
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chairs then look at reviews & rebuttals.
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meta review. chairs make decsion on accept or not. inform accepted on condition that xyz issues are addressed
14:30:50 [shawn]
one week OK
14:31:01 [shawn]
submit "camera-ready copy"
14:37:38 [sharper]
Well Done!
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You now need to create your Camera Ready Copy for publication no later than March 16th; here is what you need to do:
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Technical papers are up to 10 pages, communications up to 4 pages, and all other papers are 2 pages;
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Take a final look at your responsibility as an author;
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Make the revisions as suggested by your reviewers and as discussed in your rebuttals (this is part of you implicit contract with us to publish);
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Make sure you have changed your copyright block to bottom left of the front page – so that the ‘Submission Type’ states either ‘Technical’, ‘Communication’, ‘Microsoft Challenge’, ‘Google Student Award’, ‘Keynote’, or ‘After Dinner’; Example: W4A2012 – Technical or W4A2012 – Communication.
14:37:45 [sharper]
Change your ISBN to this years number of 978-1-4503-1019-2 / in word just replace the x’s on the bottom line of the block, in the LaTeX use \crdata{xxxx};
14:37:49 [sharper]
Now you must register so we know you intend to come along and present; Notice that deadline for early bird registration is on March 12th.
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Send your completed accessible papers back via email to W4A General Chairs but in your email add a plain text version of your title, abstract, authors and their affiliations, and finally you W4A registration number;
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Take a look at your responsibility as a presenter; The W3C-WAI provides some resources to make your presentations accessible in How to Make Presentations Accessible to All.
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As a presenter you are making an implicit agreement to be filmed or recorded if the W4A decides to create Audio Visual resources as the conference proceeds;
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You will then receive an email from the ACM detailing their copyright requirements, please follow these to the letter as we cannot publish without your copyright forms;
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Find the procedures to get your visa;
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Remember to add yourself to our Lanyrd Conference.
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We are really looking forward to meeting you at W4A 2012, and you will bet more logistical information by email direct to you nearer to the conference dates.
14:39:12 [vivienne]
bye now everyone
14:39:13 [Zakim]
14:39:16 [vivienne]
vivienne has left #rd
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14:44:41 [Zakim]
disconnecting the lone participant, peter, in WAI_RDWG()9:30AM
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WAI_RDWG()9:30AM has ended
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Attendees were Shadi, Shawn, vivienne, sharper, peter
14:47:55 [shadi]
trackbot, end meeting
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Zakim, list attendees
14:47:55 [Zakim]
sorry, trackbot, I don't know what conference this is
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RRSAgent, please draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate trackbot
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RRSAgent, bye
14:48:04 [RRSAgent]
I see no action items