16:59:14 RRSAgent has joined #indie-ui 16:59:14 logging to http://www.w3.org/2012/07/25-indie-ui-irc 16:59:16 RRSAgent, make logs 175 16:59:16 Zakim has joined #indie-ui 16:59:18 Zakim, this will be INDIE 16:59:18 I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, trackbot 16:59:19 Meeting: Independent User Interface Task Force Teleconference 16:59:19 Date: 25 July 2012 16:59:35 rrsagent, make log public 16:59:44 zakim, room for 15 at 13:00? 16:59:46 ok, MichaelC; conference Team_(indie-ui)17:00Z scheduled with code 46343 (INDIE) at 13:00 for 60 minutes until 1800Z 17:00:02 Team_(indie-ui)17:00Z has now started 17:00:09 +??P12 17:00:11 jcraig has joined #indie-ui 17:00:22 zakim, ??P12 is Janina 17:00:22 +Janina; got it 17:00:23 +[GVoice] 17:00:34 Meeting: IndieUI Task Force telecon 17:00:34 Chair: Janina_Sajka 17:00:34 agenda+ Admin Update: Repository; Tracker; Work Statement CFC; TPAC 17:00:34 agenda+ Recruiting Update; Polling for Telecon Time? 17:00:34 agenda+ Use Cases Walk-Through; Discussion? 17:00:36 trying to get in 17:00:37 zakim, GVoice is Joseph_Scheuhammer 17:00:37 +Joseph_Scheuhammer; got it 17:00:37 agenda+ Scribe for our Next Teleconference (on 25 July) 17:00:39 agenda+ Be Done 17:00:47 +[Apple] 17:00:51 +??P20 17:00:56 zakim, I am Joseph_Scheuhammer 17:00:56 ok, clown, I now associate you with Joseph_Scheuhammer 17:00:57 Zakim, Apple has jcraig 17:00:57 +jcraig; got it 17:01:01 zakim, ??P20 is Michael_Cooper 17:01:01 +Michael_Cooper; got it 17:01:03 Caroline_Jay has joined #indie-ui 17:01:17 +??P31 17:01:31 zakim, ??P31 is Andy_Heath 17:01:31 +Andy_Heath; got it 17:01:33 +??P32 17:01:37 zakim, ??P31 is Andy_Heath 17:01:37 I already had ??P31 as Andy_Heath, janina 17:02:53 Cathy has joined #indie-ui 17:03:22 zakim, drop ??P32 17:03:30 ??P32 is being disconnected 17:03:32 -??P32 17:03:47 +Art_Barstow 17:03:53 +??P1 17:04:05 abarsto has joined #indie-ui 17:04:09 zakim, ??P1 is Vincent_Gros 17:04:11 +Vincent_Gros; got it 17:05:13 scribe: jcraig 17:05:31 Present+ Art_Barstow 17:05:36 +??P10 17:05:49 Topic: Admin Update: Repository; Tracker; Work Statement CFC; TPAC 17:05:54 zakim, ??P10 is me 17:05:54 +Cathy; got it 17:06:03 zakim, mute me 17:06:03 Cathy should now be muted 17:06:11 -Cathy 17:06:24 js: need to get the web poll out. 17:06:50 shepazu has joined #indie-ui 17:07:10 regrets from me, I'm in an SVG WG f2f meeting 17:07:44 +??P10 17:07:47 TPAC: reservations advised. 17:08:00 zakim, ??P10 is me 17:08:00 +Cathy; got it 17:08:06 Zakim, mute joseph 17:08:06 Joseph_Scheuhammer should now be muted 17:08:39 ab: good idea to have a TPAC planning page? 17:08:53 action: cooper to create a TPAC planning page 17:08:53 Created ACTION-3 - Create a TPAC planning page [on Michael Cooper - due 2012-08-01]. 17:09:11 Regrets+: Rich_Schwerdtfeger, Doug_Schepers 17:09:21 RRSAgent, make minutes 17:09:21 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/07/25-indie-ui-minutes.html ArtB 17:09:41 RRSAgent, make log public 17:09:44 Topic: Recruiting Update; Polling for Telecon Time? 17:10:48 mc: quorum achieved? members from apple, opera, google 17:10:54 +[Apple.a] 17:11:02 js: art was going to follow up with mozilla. 17:11:14 zakim, unmute me 17:11:14 Joseph_Scheuhammer should no longer be muted 17:11:16 ACTION: barstow follow up with Mozilla re joining the Indie UI TF 17:11:16 Created ACTION-4 - Follow up with Mozilla re joining the Indie UI TF [on Arthur Barstow - due 2012-08-01]. 17:11:20 ab: have followed up once. will do so again. 17:11:20 hober has joined #indie-ui 17:11:27 Zakim, who is on the phone? 17:11:27 On the phone I see Janina, Joseph_Scheuhammer, [Apple], Michael_Cooper, Andy_Heath, Art_Barstow, Vincent_Gros, Cathy, [Apple.a] 17:11:29 [Apple] has jcraig 17:11:33 Zakim, Apple.a has me 17:11:33 +hober; got it 17:12:14 js: let's keep the recruiting item open for now to see if we can get another browser manufacturer 17:12:58 AH: did the proposal Rich and I submitted make it in? If so, where? 17:12:59 Present+ Janina_Sajka, Michael_Cooper, James_Craig, Edward_OConnor, Vincent_Gros, Andy_Heath, Joseph_Scheuhammer, Cathy_Chan 17:13:06 AH: re: user prefs 17:13:28 JS: submitted Sunday the 15th 17:14:01 AH: I'll resubmit an updated draft/ 17:14:25 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-indie-ui/2012Jul/0019.html 17:16:27 q? 17:18:05 q+ 17:18:09 JC: we can just add it to the editor's draft. no need for group consensus until we're working on FPWD consensus. 17:19:48 JS: don't want to cloud the events module with user prefs. 17:19:49 ack me 17:20:01 q? 17:20:03 JC: yes, planned to add this to the user context module 17:20:28 MC: should get consensus before FPWD, but this is probably fine to integrate now. 17:20:33 http://www.w3.org/WAI/IndieUI/wiki/Use_Cases_and_Requirements#Use_Cases_and_Scenarios 17:20:49 Topic: Use Cases 17:21:19 JS: Any comments on use cases, or should we call the meeting? 17:21:33 AB: were most of these added by Rich? 17:21:36 Caroline_Jay has joined #indie-ui 17:21:41 JS: Yes 17:22:21 MC: Has this gone through the Use Case translation that shepazu (Doug) wanted? 17:22:22 Doug, we're talking use cases? Are you able to join the call for a bit? 17:23:32 MC: doesn't look like these have been cleaned up yet, but that Rich worked within Doug's expected format. 17:24:09 JS: Move topic to email thread. 17:25:02 MC: This should be ongoing through email. There are ~35 use cases here. Perhaps add a survey before next call? 17:25:30 JS: survey might be premature, but everyone should review this before next call. 17:25:45 http://www.w3.org/WAI/IndieUI/wiki/Use_Cases_and_Requirements#Use_Cases_and_Scenarios 17:27:09 JS: What we're aiming for here is active email participation with clarification on the calls 17:27:45 q? 17:29:41 MC: proposing that the use cases be discussed individually (?) on the list. 17:30:56 JS: Any other business? 17:31:16 JS: Adjourn. Next meeting in two weeks. Aug 8th. 17:31:31 -Art_Barstow 17:31:33 -[Apple] 17:31:33 -[Apple.a] 17:31:34 -Janina 17:31:35 -Michael_Cooper 17:31:36 -Joseph_Scheuhammer 17:31:38 -Andy_Heath 17:31:41 -Vincent_Gros 17:31:42 janina has left #indie-ui 17:31:42 rrsagent, make minutes 17:31:42 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/07/25-indie-ui-minutes.html jcraig 17:32:05 Zakim, please part 17:32:05 leaving. As of this point the attendees were Janina, Joseph_Scheuhammer, jcraig, Michael_Cooper, Andy_Heath, Art_Barstow, Vincent_Gros, Cathy, [Apple], hober 17:32:05 Zakim has left #indie-ui 17:32:17 rrsagent, make minutes 17:32:17 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/07/25-indie-ui-minutes.html jcraig 17:32:46 s/js: /JS: / 17:33:15 s/js: /JS:/g 17:33:27 s/ab: /AB: /g 17:33:41 s/mc: /MC: /g 17:33:51 rrsagent, make minutes 17:33:51 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/07/25-indie-ui-minutes.html jcraig 17:35:02 s/draft\//draft./ 17:35:42 rrsagent, make minutes 17:35:42 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/07/25-indie-ui-minutes.html jcraig 17:39:14 rrsagent, please part 17:39:14 I see 2 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2012/07/25-indie-ui-actions.rdf : 17:39:14 ACTION: cooper to create a TPAC planning page [1] 17:39:14 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/07/25-indie-ui-irc#T17-08-53 17:39:14 ACTION: barstow follow up with Mozilla re joining the Indie UI TF [2] 17:39:14 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/07/25-indie-ui-irc#T17-11-16