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Web Content Accessibility Guidelines Working Group Teleconference

19 Jul 2012

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Attendees

Present
Gregg_Vanderheiden, Andi_Snow-Weaver, Judy Brewer, Alex_Li, Cherie_Ekholm, Michael_Cooper, Peter_Korn, David_MacDonald, James_Nurthen, Robin_Tuttle, Adam_Solomon
Regrets
Bruce_Bailey, Peter_Korn, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Kathleen_Wahlbin
Chair
Gregg_Vanderheiden
Scribe
Andi

Contents


<trackbot> Date: 19 July 2012

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Results of Questionnaire WCAG Issues for 19 July 2012 https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/July-19/results

RESOLUTION: Accept 1.3.1, 1.4.2, 3.3.2, 3.3.3 as proposed

Leave ARIA questions (1 & 2) to the end or until next week when Loretta is back

Reword of 1.4.4 to address the sentence that WCAG invited the WCAG2ICT Taskforce to rework.

RESOLUTION: Accept 1.4.4 as proposed

Note that Christophe's comments have been captured on the 1.4.4 page to be revisted after first public working draft.

1.3.2 Guidance - submitted for approval

 

<greggvanderheiden> The WCAG2ICT TF either describe what "content" means in the introduction, or remove all of the sentences from the WCAG2ICT TF comments that say " See introduction for the way to interpret content

<greggvanderheiden> FROM WCAG : information and sensory experience to be communicated to the user by means of a user agent, including code or markup that defines the content's structure, presentation, and interactions

<MichaelC> Introduction

<Zakim> MichaelC, you wanted to say the introduction only has an @@, which can be the seed of the editorial note, and I don't see anything we're talking about as inconsistent with what's

https://sites.google.com/site/wcag2ict/quick-view

https://sites.google.com/site/wcag2ict/home/1-perceivable/13-create-content-that-can-be-presented-in-different-ways/132-meaningful-sequence

Change bullet 2 to: there may be more than one order that is "correct" according to the WCAG definition

<greggvanderheiden> 1) providing a particular linear order is only required where it affects meaning.

<greggvanderheiden> 2) there may be more than one order that is "correct" (according to the WCAG 2.0 definition)

<greggvanderheiden> 3) only one correct order needs to be provided.

RESOLUTION: Accept 1.3.2 with the Note removed.

RESOLUTION: Add to end of 1.3.2 WCAG 2.0 Intent, "For clarity:", followed by the 3 bullets from the Note, modifying bullet 2 to read "2) there may be more than one order that is "correct" (according to the WCAG 2.0 definition)"

<greggvanderheiden> The WCAG2ICT TF either describe what "content" means in the introduction, or remove all of the sentences from the WCAG2ICT TF comments that say " See introduction for the way to interpret content

1.4.3 Guidance - submitted for approval

<greggvanderheiden> The WCAG2ICT TF either describe what "content" means in the introduction, or remove all of the sentences from the WCAG2ICT TF comments that say " See introduction for the way to interpret content. The definition in 1.3.2 is acceptable to WCAG WG if the task force would like to use it.

 

RESOLUTION: The WCAG2ICT TF should either describe what "content" means in the introduction, or remove all of the sentences from the WCAG2ICT TF comments that say " See introduction for the way to interpret content. The definition in 1.3.2 is acceptable to WCAG WG if the task force would like to use it.

RESOLUTION: Accept 1.4.3 with the pointer to content in the introduction removed

2.4.2 Guidance - submitted for approval

RESOLUTION: WCAG recommends but does not require that the TF change the term "title attribute" or to clarify that it is meant generically

come back to this one at the end of the meeting

2.4.3 Guidance - submitted for approval

RESOLUTION: Add to 2.4.3 Intent: "For clarity: followed by the three bullets in the note

 

RESOLUTION: Accept 2.4.3 with note removed

Next survey: https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/wCAG2ICT-7/results

3.3.1 edits to WCAG 2.0 INTENT for 3.3.1 Error Identification

RESOLUTION: Accept edits to 3.3.1 WCAG 2.0 intent with the word "software" changed to "system".

edit to WCAG 2.0 INTENT for 3.3.3 Error Suggestion

RESOLUTION: Accept edits to 3.3.3 WCAG 2.0 intent with the word "software" changed to "system"

Reword of 2.4.6 to address concerns of WCAG WG

<greggvanderheiden> "Note that in software user interfaces, labels and headings are used to describe controls and sections of content respectively."

<korn> Note that in software user interfaces, labels and headings are used to describe controls and sections of content respectively.

<korn> That replaces the existing proposed "Note that in software user interfaces, headings and labels are used to describe blocks of text and controls respectively."

RESOLUTION: Accept reword of 2.4.6 with the "Note that in software user interfaces, headings and labels are used to describe blocks of text and controls respectively." replaced with "Note that in software user interfaces, labels and headings are used to describe controls and sections of content respectively."

FRONT MATTER Text for the WCAG2ICT document

<greggvanderheiden> The objective of WCAG2ICT Task Force is to develop documentation describing how to apply WCAG 2.0 and its principles, guidelines, and success criteria to non-Web Information and Communications Technologies (ICT).

<Zakim> jamesn, you wanted to say that if the title were to be changed (and I have no comment on whether it does need to be changed) it needs to come back to survey. We can't agree

<robin> need to drop

RESOLUTION: Accept FRONTMATTER as proposed

<greggvanderheiden> This draft document is intended to help make non-Web ICT more accessible to people with disabilities." -> "This draft document is intended to help clarify how to use WCAG 2.0 to make non-Web ICT more accessible to people with disabilities."

<korn> +1

<greggvanderheiden> "what WCAG 2.0 Conformance means" -> "what WCAG 2.0 Conformance would mean"

INTRODUCTION to WCAG2ICT document - submitted for approval

<alex> educational/training material should work

<greggvanderheiden> There are many guidelines, application notes, and standards that focus on or include specific accessibility support for file formats, general software concerns, telecommunication, and other electronic technologies that may be of help in that endeavor.

<alex> +1

<korn> +1

<Zakim> Judy, you wanted to express a concern about proposal above

RESOLUTION: Accept Introduction with two edits from Loretta in the survey

 

RESOLUTION: WCAG WG approves publication of WCAG2ICT as a First Public Working Draft (those parts that have been approved by the WG)

Summary of Action Items

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