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RDB2RDF Weekly Telcon

03 Jul 2012

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Attendees

Present
David, Richard._Ashok, Boris, Juan, Ted
Regrets
Nuno, Eric, Ivan, Michael, Souri
Chair
Ashok
Scribe
Richard

Contents


<Ashok> regrets Nuno, Eric, Ivan, Michael

<scribe> scribenick: cygri

<Ashok> scribe: Richard

<Ashok> PROPOSAL: Accept the minutes of last meeting http://www.w3.org/2012/06/19-rdb2rdf-minutes.html

RESOLUTION: Accept the minutes of last meeting http://www.w3.org/2012/06/19-rdb2rdf-minutes.html

<boris> +1

Status of the WDs? When can we publish? Eric, Juan, Richard

ashok: do we have final versions that we can publish?

juan: i reported some weeks ago that there are some very minor issues in DM
... i will do this in the next couple days

<Ashok> Ashok: What about R2RMl?

<Ashok> Richard: Some changes are needed

cygri: will do it this week

<Ashok> Richard: Should be ready this week

ashok: why don't you create the draft ASAP, send an email pointing out the changes, asking for review

cygri: yes

ashok: we can try to publish quickly by the end of the week or possibly early next

<boris> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/implementation-report/

Status of the Implementation Report. Boris

boris: almost ready

<Ashok> Ashok: Status of implementation report

boris: need to fix some minor things still
... still need to check toby inkster's report
... latest report includes all the implementations we have so far

ashok: can you get final version this week?

boris: yes, ok

<juansequeda> +q to ask till when do we have to keep submitting earl reports.

ashok: looks like we have seven implementations
... but some do one spec only

boris: yes. five for DM and five for R2RML

cygri: boris, what's the latest time by which you still accept reports?

<Ashok> Richard: Until when can I send a report ... what's the deadline?

boris: i generate the implementation report automatically, so making the new report is quick
... so just send whenever

<Ashok> Boris: Anytime, even Friday or Saturday

juan: i'd like to submit reports for all major RDBMS vendors
... is next week still ok?

ashok: do it this week if you can
... we just need "enough" reports
... so no great need for further reports

cygri: does the implementation report still need review from the WG?

ashok: we can leave this to boris and michael. michael has done this for RDFa so knows how to do them
... but of course can briefly look it over once we have the version on friday

<Zakim> juansequeda, you wanted to ask till when do we have to keep submitting earl reports.

boris: are partial reports that don't pass everything ok?

ashok: my understanding is: yes, per ivan
... each test individually must have at least two successful implementations

<MacTed> +1 to all reports including those showing failures

cygri: to me it's also interesting to see that some implementations don't pass all the tests, we can learn which features are most interoperable, work best etc

ashok: to summarize, we should have both spec drafts this week
... the R2RML changes needs a bit of review
... boris will produce implementation report too this week

Shall we publish the Test cases as a WG Note?

ashok: this is optional, people can find the test cases anyway
... but if we want, we can publish them as a note
... it's a bit of formatting, bit of work and so on
... boris, you'd be the one who would have to do the formatting

cygri: i'm in favour if the editors of the test suite would like to
... perhaps not so much work compared to what already went into it
... but have to think about change management

ashok: we might still do that a bit later, e.g., next month

boris: i'd be happy to do it. it's a bit of work but should be ok

ashok: how about you prepare a draft with the proper formatting, boilerplate etc
... process for publishing notes is not *so* much work

RESOLUTION: WG will publish the test cases as a WG Note

cygri: we have a suite of validator test cases. one small test case for every way in which you can break an R2RML file
... should we bring this into the WG?
... (we = D2RQ team)

ashok: i'd be happy to take this on board because it helps implementers outside of the WG
... makes things easier to find
... let's talk about this further
... can you send us an outline?

cygri: ok, will do

Status of Enrico/Juan note on blank nodes.

ashok: when we talked about blank node semantics in the DM, there was an action on Enrico and Juan to publish a note on that
... that hasn't happened yet
... it's not a charter requirement, but speaking personally i think it would be terrific to publish this note

juansequeda: i've been in discussion with Enrico on and off for several months
... i've sent a draft outline but we don't really have agreement
... i think it would be beneficial to write that
... i think this wouldn't be holding back anything else, right?

ashok: would be good if you guys can publish something here

juansequeda: will continue and get back to the group as soon as there's anything to report

Close open actions: http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/actions/open

Close open actions

ACTION-192?

<trackbot> ACTION-192 -- Richard Cyganiak to write wiki text on relationship between our SQL value mapping and the one in ISO/IEC 9075-14 -- due 2012-02-14 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/actions/192

close ACTION-192

<trackbot> ACTION-192 Write wiki text on relationship between our SQL value mapping and the one in ISO/IEC 9075-14 closed

MacTed: if you just write a few sentences on the wiki now, that would be good and sufficient

<boris> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/wiki/Implementations

close ACTION-194

<trackbot> ACTION-194 Update http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/wiki/Implementations with reports from http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdb2rdf-wg/2012Jan/0067.html closed

cygri: 194 is obsolete, that's from way back in january

ACTION-196?

<trackbot> ACTION-196 -- Michael Hausenblas to contact Antonio Garrote and Toby Inkster re TC -- due 2012-02-14 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/actions/196

ACTION-197?

<trackbot> ACTION-197 -- Juan Sequeda to contact Mariano Rodriguez re TC -- due 2012-02-14 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/actions/197

ACTION-198?

<trackbot> ACTION-198 -- Richard Cyganiak to suggest data errors TC -- due 2012-02-14 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/actions/198

close ACTION-198

<trackbot> ACTION-198 Suggest data errors TC closed

boris: nuno did 199 and provided the info on the wiki

close ACTION-199

<trackbot> ACTION-199 Report on comparing graphs experience and provide bash script used in XSPARQL testing on the Wiki closed

close ACTION-196

<trackbot> ACTION-196 Contact Antonio Garrote and Toby Inkster re TC closed

close ACTION-197

<trackbot> ACTION-197 Contact Mariano Rodriguez re TC closed

AOB

ashok: so after this week we should think about the tc note and the blank node note
... when we get to REC then WG will basically become inactive
... doing notes will become a bit more difficult once we have reached REC
... but nothing to worry about really
... adjourned!

Summary of Action Items

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Regrets: Nuno Eric Ivan Michael Souri
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