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19:52:32 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see WAI_WCAG()4:00PM scheduled to start in 8 minutes
19:52:33 <trackbot> Meeting: Web Content Accessibility Guidelines Working Group Teleconference
19:52:33 <trackbot> Date: 28 June 2012
19:58:24 <Zakim> WAI_WCAG()4:00PM has now started
19:58:31 <Zakim> +Gregg_Vanderheiden
19:58:38 <MichaelC> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2012AprJun/0122.html
19:58:44 <Zakim> -Gregg_Vanderheiden
19:58:44 <Zakim> +Cooper
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19:59:48 <MichaelC> regrets: David_MacDonald
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20:00:41 <Zakim> + +1.206.778.aaaa
20:00:59 <MichaelC> zakim, aaaa is Alex_Li
20:00:59 <Zakim> +Alex_Li; got it
20:01:07 <MichaelC> scribe: BBailey
20:01:09 <Zakim> +Robin_Tuttle
20:01:11 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
20:01:28 <MichaelC> zakim, Microsoft is Cherie_Eckholm
20:01:28 <Zakim> +Cherie_Eckholm; got it
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20:05:05 <BBailey> ITEM:  1 of 1: Task force requests to WCAG for June 22
20:05:49 <BBailey> TOPIC:  Second of two questions:  New publication Date for Understanding WCAG 2.0
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20:08:44 <Andi> q+
20:08:51 <Andi> q-
20:09:27 <BBailey> TOPIC:  SC 2.4.6 in Understanding WCAG 2.0 
20:10:48 <Andi> q+
20:11:57 <Andi> ack andi
20:12:01 <BBailey> q+
20:12:46 <Andi> ack bbailey
20:13:48 <greggvanderheiden> Note: This success criterion does not REQUIRE heading and labels. Rather it requires that if they are provided, they be descriptive. Also note that, if headings are provided,  per success criterion 1.3.1, their structure and relationship would need to be programmatically determined or their structure and relationship described in text.
20:15:37 <greggvanderheiden> Note: This success criterion does not REQUIRE heading and labels. Rather it requires that if they are provided, they be descriptive. Also note that, if headings are provided,  per success criterion 1.3.1, their structure and relationship would need to be programmatically determined or their structure and relationship must be available in text.
20:17:18 <Loretta> Note: This success criterion does not REQUIRE heading and labels. Rather it requires that if they are provided, they be descriptive. Also note that, if headings are provided, they must meet Success Criterion 1.3.1.
20:19:54 <Loretta> Note: This success criterion does not REQUIRE heading and labels. Rather it requires that if they are provided, they be descriptive. Also note that, if headings and labels are provided, they must meet Success Criterion 1.3.1. 
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20:21:29 <Zakim> + +1.978.899.aabb
20:21:40 <MoeKraft> Zakin, aabb is MoeKraft
20:21:54 <MoeKraft> Zakim, aabb is MoeKraft
20:21:54 <Zakim> +MoeKraft; got it
20:24:50 <Loretta> Note: This success criterion does not REQUIRE heading and labels. Rather this success criterion requires that if they are provided, they be descriptive. Also note that, if headings and labels are provided, they must meet  Success Criterion 1.3.1.
20:27:17 <Loretta> Note: This success criterion does not require heading and labels. Rather this success criterion requires that if they are provided, they be descriptive. Also note that, if headings or  labels are provided, they must meet  Success Criterion 1.3.1..
20:28:03 <Loretta> Note: This success criterion does not require heading or labels. Rather this success criterion requires that if they are provided, they be descriptive. Also note that, if headings or  labels are provided, they must meet  Success Criterion 1.3.1.
20:31:29 <BBailey> RESOLUTION:  SC 2.4.6 in Understanding WCAG 2.0 Note added as amended.
20:31:36 <BBailey> Note: This success criterion does not require headings or labels.  This success criterion requires that if headings or labels are provided, they be descriptive.  Also note that, if headings or labels are provided, they must meet  Success Criterion 1.3.1.
20:33:35 <BBailey> RESOLUTION:  Change note in SC 2.4.6 in Understanding WCAG 2.0 to:  Note: This success criterion does not require headings or labels.  This success criterion requires that if headings or labels are provided, they be descriptive.  Also note that, if headings or labels are provided, they must meet  Success Criterion 1.3.1.
20:34:12 <BBailey> TOPIC:  Second of two questions:  New publication Date for Understanding WCAG 2.0.
20:35:44 <Andi> q+
20:37:07 <Andi> ack andi
20:37:41 <Loretta> q+ to say that I don't see how this AT question relates to 4.1.1 at all
20:38:18 <MichaelC> q+
20:38:34 <Andi> q+
20:39:40 <Andi> ack loretta
20:39:40 <Zakim> Loretta, you wanted to say that I don't see how this AT question relates to 4.1.1 at all
20:39:48 <greggvanderheiden> ack m
20:40:46 <Loretta> AT question: https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20120621_PF-UA/results#xWCAG2ICT
20:42:55 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
20:42:59 <Zakim> -Alex_Li
20:43:45 <Andi> q-
20:44:14 <MichaelC> zakim, Microsoft is Alex_Li
20:44:14 <Zakim> +Alex_Li; got it
20:44:38 <Zakim> -Alex_Li
20:44:57 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
20:45:05 <MichaelC> zakim, Microsoft is Alex_Li
20:45:05 <Zakim> +Alex_Li; got it
20:46:47 <BBailey> RESOLUTION:  Working group to publish an updated *editors’ draft* of Understanding WCAG to use as reference point for WCAG2ICT first draft.
20:53:55 <greggvanderheiden> RESOLUTION:  Working group retracts the note from the last meeting regarding AT being used to meet SC pending further study.
20:54:17 <BBailey> RESOLUTION:  Working group retracts the note from the last meeting regarding AT being used to meet SC pending further study.
20:55:45 <BBailey> ITEM:  Update on the WCAG2ICT Task Force. 
20:57:02 <BBailey> http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WCAG2ICT-TF/
20:57:20 <Zakim> -James_Nurthen
21:02:20 <Zakim> + +1.613.806.aacc
21:02:39 <MichaelC> zakim, aacc is David_MacDonald
21:02:39 <Zakim> +David_MacDonald; got it
21:05:15 <Andi> zakim, who is making noise?
21:05:26 <Zakim> Andi, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: David_MacDonald (14%)
21:06:11 <MichaelC> zakim, mute David
21:06:11 <Zakim> David_MacDonald should now be muted
21:06:27 <BBailey> Work on schedule for publishing note at end of July.
21:06:39 <BBailey> Focus is to get as many notes to A and AA SC.
21:07:05 <BBailey> Task force will followup with conformance, introduction, and AAA criteria.
21:08:18 <Zakim> -Andi_Snow_Weaver
21:08:26 <BBailey> ITEM:  Discuss PDF/UA notes.
21:08:39 <BBailey> Subgroup meeting tomorrow.
21:10:21 <BBailey> Loretta and Gregg request survey items by COB Monday due to U.S. holiday Wednesday.
21:11:31 <Zakim> -Alex_Li
21:11:57 <Zakim> -Andrew_Kirkpatrick
21:12:03 <Zakim> -Cherie_Eckholm
21:12:19 <MichaelC> rrsagent, make minutes
21:12:19 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/06/28-wai-wcag-minutes.html MichaelC
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21:12:40 <Zakim> -Cooper
21:12:41 <Zakim> -MoeKraft
21:12:43 <Zakim> -David_MacDonald
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21:12:50 <Zakim> -Marc_Johlic
21:12:52 <Zakim> -Robin_Tuttle
21:13:17 <MoeKraft> bye
21:14:08 <BBailey> @@michael -- my  slash s slash lines don't look like they worked.
21:14:49 <Zakim> -Bruce_Bailey
21:14:51 <Zakim> WAI_WCAG()4:00PM has ended
21:14:51 <Zakim> Attendees were Gregg_Vanderheiden, Cooper, Andrew_Kirkpatrick, Andi_Snow_Weaver, Bruce_Bailey, +1.206.778.aaaa, Alex_Li, Robin_Tuttle, Cherie_Eckholm, James_Nurthen,
21:14:51 <Zakim> ... Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Marc_Johlic, +1.978.899.aabb, MoeKraft, +1.613.806.aacc, David_MacDonald
21:35:31 <MichaelC> chair: Gregg_Vanderheiden
21:36:12 <MichaelC> s/@@michael -- my slash s slash lines don't look like they worked.//
21:36:35 <MichaelC> s/Zakin, aabb is MoeKraft//
21:36:51 <MichaelC> rrsagent, make minutes
21:36:51 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/06/28-wai-wcag-minutes.html MichaelC
21:39:27 <BBailey> s/Focus is to get as many notes to A and AA SC./Focus is to complete notes to A and AA SC./
21:41:07 <BBailey>  s/RESOLUTION: SC 2.4.6 in Understanding WCAG 2.0 Note added as amended.//
21:43:05 <BBailey> member:rrsagent, make minutes
21:43:15 <BBailey> rssagent, make minutes
21:44:09 <BBailey> s/member:rrsagent, make minutes//
21:44:24 <BBailey> s/rssagent, make minutes/
21:50:49 <MichaelC> rrsagent, make minutes
21:50:49 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/06/28-wai-wcag-minutes.html MichaelC