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15:01:20 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs 185
15:01:22 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 63342
15:01:22 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see HTML_WG()11:00AM scheduled to start now
15:01:23 <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Media Teleconference
15:01:23 <trackbot> Date: 26 June 2012
15:01:43 <paulc> zakim, who is on the phone?
15:01:43 <Zakim> HTML_WG()11:00AM has not yet started, paulc
15:01:44 <glenn> zakim, who's on the phone?
15:01:45 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, Zakim, Martin, ddorwin, adrianba, duncanr, jasonlewis, glenn, Billy, paulc, yang, nixu, MikeSmith, trackbot
15:01:45 <Zakim> HTML_WG()11:00AM has not yet started, glenn
15:01:47 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, Zakim, Martin, ddorwin, adrianba, duncanr, jasonlewis, glenn, Billy, paulc, yang, nixu, MikeSmith, trackbot
15:02:08 <glenn> yes
15:02:20 <Martin> zakim, this is media
15:02:22 <Zakim> ok, Martin; that matches HTML_WG()11:00AM
15:02:26 <Zakim> +??P26
15:02:28 <kstreeter> kstreeter has joined #html-media
15:02:33 <Zakim> +pladd
15:02:44 <paulc> zakim, who is on the phone?
15:02:49 <Zakim> On the phone I see ??P31, +1.206.664.aaaa, duncanr, [GVoice], ??P16 (muted), +1.352.870.aabb, [Microsoft], markw, +1.303.503.aacc, Martin, +1.858.677.aadd, +1.858.735.aaee, ??P26,
15:02:58 <Zakim> ... pladd
15:03:02 <Zakim> +[Microsoft.a]
15:03:02 <kstreeter> zakim, aaee is me
15:03:03 <glenn> zakim, ??p16 is glenn
15:03:04 <pladd> pladd has joined #html-media
15:03:04 <adrianba> zakim, [Microsoft.a] is me
15:03:08 <paulc> zakim, [Microsoft] has paulc
15:03:11 <Zakim> +kstreeter; got it
15:03:11 <Clarke> Clarke has joined #html-media
15:03:13 <Zakim> +glenn; got it
15:03:15 <Zakim> +adrianba; got it
15:03:21 <Zakim> +paulc; got it
15:03:25 <yang> zakim, ??P31 is me
15:03:26 <Clarke> zakim, who is on the phone?
15:03:33 <Zakim> +yang; got it
15:03:38 <Zakim> On the phone I see yang, +1.206.664.aaaa, duncanr, [GVoice], glenn (muted), +1.352.870.aabb, [Microsoft], markw, +1.303.503.aacc, Martin, +1.858.677.aadd, kstreeter, ??P26, pladd,
15:03:38 <ddorwin> zakim, [GVoice] is me
15:03:41 <Zakim> ... adrianba
15:03:41 <Petr> Petr has joined #html-media
15:03:43 <Zakim> [Microsoft] has paulc
15:03:53 <Zakim> +ddorwin; got it
15:03:57 <jasonlewis> Zakim, i am aaaa
15:03:57 <Zakim> - +1.303.503.aacc
15:04:02 <nixu> nixu, Disney Technology Solutions and Services, i'm the 352 number
15:04:06 <[tm]> [tm] has joined #html-media
15:04:09 <mahesh> mahesh has joined #html-media
15:04:13 <Zakim> + +1.303.503.aaff
15:04:15 <Zakim> +jasonlewis; got it
15:04:25 <Zakim> +johnsim-microsoft
15:04:26 <Petr> 858 is Petr Peterka
15:04:36 <Clarke> zakim, aacc is BobLund
15:04:38 <Zakim> sorry, Clarke, I do not recognize a party named 'aacc'
15:04:44 <glenn> zakim, aadd is Petr
15:04:44 <Zakim> +Petr; got it
15:04:45 <adrianba> zakim, aadd is Petr
15:04:46 <Zakim> sorry, adrianba, I do not recognize a party named 'aadd'
15:04:55 <Zakim> + +1.415.832.aagg
15:04:57 <[MS]Johnsim> [MS]Johnsim has joined #html-media
15:05:26 <paulc> zakim, who is on the phone?
15:05:26 <Zakim> On the phone I see yang, jasonlewis, duncanr, ddorwin, glenn (muted), +1.352.870.aabb, [Microsoft], markw, Martin, Petr, kstreeter, ??P26, pladd, adrianba, +1.303.503.aaff,
15:05:30 <Zakim> ... johnsim-microsoft, +1.415.832.aagg
15:05:30 <Zakim> [Microsoft] has paulc
15:05:35 <Zakim> +whitech
15:05:38 <glenn> zakim, aagg is Adobe
15:05:38 <Zakim> +Adobe; got it
15:05:44 <Clarke> zakim, ??P26 is me
15:05:44 <Zakim> +Clarke; got it
15:05:51 <adrianba> zakim, aabb is nixu
15:05:51 <Zakim> +nixu; got it
15:05:54 <whitech> whitech has joined #html-media
15:06:05 <MikeSmithW3C> I will be on IRC only, today, from my mobile
15:06:18 <Clarke> zakim +1.303.503.aacc is BobLund
15:06:24 <Zakim> +Mark_Vickers
15:06:31 <Zakim> + +1.818.560.aahh
15:06:36 <adrianba> zakim, who is on the phone?
15:06:37 <glenn> zakim, aacc is BobLund
15:06:38 <Zakim> On the phone I see yang, jasonlewis, duncanr, ddorwin, glenn (muted), nixu, [Microsoft], markw, Martin, Petr, kstreeter, Clarke, pladd, adrianba, +1.303.503.aaff,
15:06:38 <Zakim> ... johnsim-microsoft, Adobe, whitech, Mark_Vickers, +1.818.560.aahh
15:06:38 <Zakim> [Microsoft] has paulc
15:06:38 <Zakim> sorry, glenn, I do not recognize a party named 'aacc'
15:06:51 <paulc> zakim, who is on the phone?
15:06:51 <Zakim> On the phone I see yang, jasonlewis, duncanr, ddorwin, glenn (muted), nixu, [Microsoft], markw, Martin, Petr, kstreeter, Clarke, pladd, adrianba, +1.303.503.aaff,
15:06:55 <Zakim> ... johnsim-microsoft, Adobe, whitech, Mark_Vickers, +1.818.560.aahh
15:06:55 <Zakim> [Microsoft] has paulc
15:07:00 <Clarke> zakim, +1.303.503.aaff is BobLund
15:07:00 <Zakim> +BobLund; got it
15:07:03 <MikeSmithW3C> paulc, so if you need me for anything please ping me here on irc
15:07:08 <mahesh> <Zakim>, +1-818-560-0523, it's me
15:07:21 <paulc> zakim, who is on the phone?
15:07:21 <Zakim> On the phone I see yang, jasonlewis, duncanr, ddorwin, glenn (muted), nixu, [Microsoft], markw, Martin, Petr, kstreeter, Clarke, pladd, adrianba, BobLund, johnsim-microsoft, Adobe,
15:07:25 <Zakim> ... whitech, Mark_Vickers, +1.818.560.aahh
15:07:25 <Zakim> [Microsoft] has paulc
15:07:27 <acolwell> acolwell has joined #html-media
15:07:36 <paulc> zakim, list the attendees
15:07:36 <Zakim> I don't understand 'list the attendees', paulc
15:07:41 <mahesh> I am on the phone
15:07:49 <suzie> suzie has joined #html-media
15:07:51 <glenn> zakim, who's on the phone?
15:07:51 <Zakim> On the phone I see yang, jasonlewis, duncanr, ddorwin, glenn (muted), nixu, [Microsoft], markw, Martin, Petr, kstreeter, Clarke, pladd, adrianba, BobLund, johnsim-microsoft, Adobe,
15:07:55 <Zakim> ... whitech, Mark_Vickers, +1.818.560.aahh
15:07:55 <Zakim> [Microsoft] has paulc
15:07:58 <adrianba> zakim, who is here?
15:07:59 <glenn> zakim, who's here?
15:08:01 <Zakim> On the phone I see yang, jasonlewis, duncanr, ddorwin, glenn (muted), nixu, [Microsoft], markw, Martin, Petr, kstreeter, Clarke, pladd, adrianba, BobLund, johnsim-microsoft, Adobe,
15:08:01 <jasonlewis> Zakim, list attendees
15:08:04 <Zakim> ... whitech, Mark_Vickers, +1.818.560.aahh
15:08:06 <SethHodgson> SethHodgson has joined #html-media
15:08:06 <Zakim> [Microsoft] has paulc
15:08:06 <whitech> zakim, +1.858.485.aaii
15:08:08 <Zakim> On IRC I see suzie, acolwell, whitech, [MS]Johnsim, mahesh, MikeSmithW3C, Petr, Clarke, pladd, kstreeter, RRSAgent, Zakim, Martin, ddorwin, adrianba, duncanr, jasonlewis, glenn,
15:08:12 <Zakim> ... Billy, paulc, yang, nixu, MikeSmith, trackbot
15:08:13 <Zakim> On the phone I see yang, jasonlewis, duncanr, ddorwin, glenn (muted), nixu, [Microsoft], markw, Martin, Petr, kstreeter, Clarke, pladd, adrianba, BobLund, johnsim-microsoft, Adobe,
15:08:16 <Zakim> ... whitech, Mark_Vickers, +1.818.560.aahh
15:08:19 <Zakim> [Microsoft] has paulc
15:08:20 <Zakim> On IRC I see suzie, acolwell, whitech, [MS]Johnsim, mahesh, MikeSmithW3C, Petr, Clarke, pladd, kstreeter, RRSAgent, Zakim, Martin, ddorwin, adrianba, duncanr, jasonlewis, glenn,
15:08:23 <Zakim> ... Billy, paulc, yang, nixu, MikeSmith, trackbot
15:08:25 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been +1.206.664.aaaa, duncanr, +1.352.870.aabb, markw, +1.303.503.aacc, Martin, +1.858.677.aadd, +1.858.735.aaee, pladd, kstreeter, glenn,
15:08:31 <Zakim> ... adrianba, paulc, yang, ddorwin, jasonlewis, johnsim-microsoft, Petr, +1.415.832.aagg, whitech, Adobe, Clarke, nixu, Mark_Vickers, +1.818.560.aahh, BobLund
15:08:32 <mahesh> <Zakim>, +1-818-560-0523 is mahesh
15:08:33 <Zakim> +acolwell
15:08:35 <Zakim> I don't understand '+1.858.485.aaii', whitech
15:08:46 <mark_vickers> mark_vickers has joined #html-media
15:09:26 <glenn> zakim, aahh is mahesh
15:09:26 <Zakim> +mahesh; got it
15:09:30 <adrianba> zakim, aahh is mahesh
15:09:30 <Zakim> sorry, adrianba, I do not recognize a party named 'aahh'
15:09:34 <jasonlewis> Paul:  Jason is scribe, Paul is Chair
15:09:41 <adrianba> zakim, aaii is whitech
15:09:41 <Zakim> sorry, adrianba, I do not recognize a party named 'aaii'
15:09:42 <paulc> 26 attendees
15:10:31 <whitech> zakim, 1.858.485.6060 is whitech
15:10:31 <Zakim> sorry, whitech, I do not recognize a party named '1.858.485.6060'
15:10:51 <jasonlewis> Paul: Topic discuss previous minutes, last meeting of this group 2 weeks ago.  There has been some discussion on mailing lists. 
15:11:01 <Zakim> -BobLund
15:11:02 <jasonlewis> Paul: Action items. There are none
15:11:18 <paulc> Topic: Roll call
15:11:30 <paulc> zakim, list attendees
15:11:31 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been +1.206.664.aaaa, duncanr, +1.352.870.aabb, markw, +1.303.503.aacc, Martin, +1.858.677.aadd, +1.858.735.aaee, pladd, kstreeter, glenn,
15:11:31 <Zakim> ... adrianba, paulc, yang, ddorwin, jasonlewis, johnsim-microsoft, Petr, +1.415.832.aagg, whitech, Adobe, Clarke, nixu, Mark_Vickers, +1.818.560.aahh, BobLund, acolwell, mahesh
15:11:35 <SethHodgson> zakim, 1.415.832.5191 is SethHodgson
15:11:35 <Zakim> sorry, SethHodgson, I do not recognize a party named '1.415.832.5191'
15:11:40 <paulc> Topic: previous minutes
15:11:41 <plh> plh has joined #html-media
15:11:47 <Zakim> +Plh
15:11:47 <paulc> Noted
15:12:03 <jasonlewis> Topic: Review Action Items
15:12:04 <glenn> zakim, aagg is SethHodgson
15:12:04 <Zakim> sorry, glenn, I do not recognize a party named 'aagg'
15:12:12 <kstreeter> zakim, Adobe is SethHodgson
15:12:12 <Zakim> +SethHodgson; got it
15:12:14 <jasonlewis> Noted.  No action required
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15:12:24 <jasonlewis> Topic: Baseline Documents
15:12:31 <jasonlewis> Noted
15:12:32 <glenn> zakim, aahh is whitech
15:12:32 <Zakim> sorry, glenn, I do not recognize a party named 'aahh'
15:12:48 <whitech> zakim, +1.858.485.6060 is whitech
15:12:49 <Zakim> sorry, whitech, I do not recognize a party named '+1.858.485.6060'
15:13:38 <jasonlewis> Topic: Support for Multiple Init Values from a Single Session
15:13:47 <glenn> zakim, who's on the phone?
15:13:47 <Zakim> On the phone I see yang, jasonlewis, duncanr, ddorwin, glenn (muted), nixu, [Microsoft], markw, Martin, Petr, kstreeter, Clarke, pladd, adrianba, johnsim-microsoft, SethHodgson,
15:13:50 <Zakim> ... whitech, Mark_Vickers, mahesh, acolwell, Plh
15:13:50 <Zakim> [Microsoft] has paulc
15:14:45 <jasonlewis> Topic: Support for multiple initData values in a single session
15:14:51 <paulc> See http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-media/2012Jun/0056.html 
15:14:52 <yang> q+
15:15:56 <adrianba> q+
15:17:04 <jasonlewis> David: Do we need multiple initData?  And to associate with sessions. 
15:17:34 <jasonlewis> David: Associating messages and tracking lifetimes is simpler if we only allow on initData
15:17:48 <paulc> ack yang
15:17:49 <ddorwin> s/on/one
15:17:57 <ddorwin> …per session ID
15:18:39 <Zakim> +BobLund
15:18:46 <jasonlewis> Yang: Currently initData is one-to-one mapping, if changed then we may need to multiple key per session
15:19:07 <jasonlewis> Yang: Is there a relative mapping between initData and Key?
15:19:08 <adrianba> rrsagent, make minutes
15:19:08 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/06/26-html-media-minutes.html adrianba
15:19:10 <markw> q+
15:19:24 <adrianba> rrsagent, make logs public
15:19:40 <jasonlewis> David: initData may be a Key , or reference to key.
15:19:56 <paulc> ack adrian
15:20:02 <jasonlewis> David: there may be some issue of replay attacks, but this is responsibility of CDM
15:21:05 <jasonlewis> Adrian: my preference is to keep things as simple as possible.  Haven't seen a compelling enough reason to move away from single initData.  Prefer to keep existing structure until there is a hard requirement needing this to change.
15:21:06 <paulc> ack markw
15:21:32 <yang> agree with Adrian
15:21:51 <jasonlewis> Mark W: There is a scenario with multiple calls and multiple keys.  
15:22:29 <jasonlewis> Mark W: Question is how to coordinate these requests..as a bundle? then there will need to be more information from initData
15:22:54 <Martin> +Martin
15:23:06 <Martin> q+
15:23:08 <Martin> if an initData and key request map to a single request / transaction then a one-to-one mapping is simpler and there is no reason multiple KIDs can't be included in a single "key request"
15:23:12 <jasonlewis> Mark W: Impact is whether you can write generic application without knowledge of how media keys and structure were handled in the files
15:23:21 <paulc> ack martin
15:23:35 <markw> q+
15:23:42 <paulc> ack markw
15:23:45 <jasonlewis> Martin: It seems one-to-one mapping is simpler
15:24:14 <jasonlewis> Mark W: issue is that initData may not actually require delivery of new key
15:24:49 <jasonlewis> Mark W: Application needs to know if it needs to create to be a session
15:25:04 <jasonlewis> Paul: What does current spec say about this?
15:25:07 <yang> q+
15:25:22 <ddorwin> the current spec assumes one session at a time I believe
15:25:23 <paulc> ack yang
15:25:24 <jasonlewis> Mark W: Does say anything about key exchange if CDM already knows the key data
15:25:32 <adrianba> q+
15:26:12 <paulc> ack adrian
15:26:20 <markw> q+
15:27:04 <yang> we do not need multiple needkey event in 1 session,even iif we support multiple initdata in one session
15:27:39 <yang> because it is meaningless for application to see the following needkey event because we only need 1 key in this session.
15:28:17 <jasonlewis> Andrian: Mark outlined one scenario that was possible.  But are we ok with keeping it simple for now until a hard use case arises that justifies this
15:28:29 <jasonlewis> s/this/this?
15:28:59 <paulc> This is a sub-issue of https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=16613 
15:29:11 <paulc> ack mark
15:29:39 <adrianba> s/Andrian/Adrian/
15:30:03 <jasonlewis> Mark V: if we applied the initData in createNewSession method...that would give CDM option to decide whether new data would be needed
15:30:24 <jasonlewis> David: Like this
15:31:08 <jasonlewis> Adrian: Have questions about this...and general object oriented discussion
15:31:14 <markw> createNewSession would return an existing session object if no new message exchange was required based on the provided initData
15:31:29 <jasonlewis> Topic: object-oriented design representing sessions as objects
15:31:34 <paulc> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-media/2012Jun/0054.html 
15:31:39 <markw> we would still need generateKeyRequest() to trigger the events as we need time to register event handlers
15:31:44 <ddorwin> One question is whether generateKeyRequest() should create the session object or be a method on that object. Having it create the object is attractive because it enforces calling order without explicit checks.
15:31:45 <adrianba> q+
15:33:29 <jasonlewis> David: if we did have createSession with initData ... and the CDM returns session...  There may be an issue if this is asynchronous in the CDM 
15:33:54 <ddorwin> The biggest problem with geneerateKeyRequest() creating the object is that it requires the following pattern:
15:33:54 <ddorwin>   var obj = doSomethingThatFiresEventFoo();
15:33:54 <ddorwin>   obj.onfoo = myhandler;
15:33:54 <ddorwin> In other words, the constructor can fire events at the object it is creating that we want to handle.
15:34:47 <paulc> ack adrian
15:35:00 <jasonlewis> Paul: Let's please get everyone's opinion
15:35:21 <jasonlewis> Adrian: My opinion is that we should pick the object-oriented approach
15:35:53 <Martin> my opinion is we should pick the object oriented approach
15:37:12 <jasonlewis> Adrian: Design we proposed allows JS to iterate through the systems that a website supports...  originally in spec this was done by calling createKeyRequest multiple times. 
15:37:33 <jasonlewis> s/createKeyRequest/generateKeyRequest
15:37:55 <jasonlewis> Adrian: seems that we throw away objects very quickly
15:38:19 <jasonlewis> David: If we added initData we may have been able to simply get null objects
15:38:53 <markw> What if you do support the keysystem but the initData does not contain information for that keysystem ?
15:39:01 <jasonlewis> Adrian: it will still be necessary to allow async behavior. But would like to support fast fail
15:39:06 <markw> q+
15:39:52 <jasonlewis> David: issue; we would have to start throwing errors at the object
15:40:29 <Zakim> -Plh
15:40:42 <paulc> ack mark
15:40:43 <ddorwin> q+
15:40:54 <jasonlewis> Mark W: What if you do support the keysystem but the initData does not contain information for that keysystem ?
15:41:39 <jasonlewis> Mark W: do you have to fire up the CDM to determine support? or can the browser do this based on initData?
15:41:41 <Zakim> -markw
15:42:26 <Zakim> +markw
15:42:41 <jasonlewis> Paul: The spec doesn't make it mandatory to spin up CDM, so this is optional from browser...but probably shoul
15:43:57 <adrianba> q?
15:43:59 <paulc> ack dd
15:44:08 <ddorwin> What type of error should occur in the case where we have to spin up the CDM?
15:44:08 <ddorwin> synchronous null session object or asynchronous keyerror at the object?
15:44:57 <jasonlewis> Mark W: seems like both;  if browser can determine quickly , but also need to support async when CDM has to be started to determine it
15:45:02 <ddorwin> we can specify both types of errors are possible.
15:45:31 <jasonlewis> Paul: This isn't yet included in proposal
15:46:05 <adrianba> q+
15:46:30 <markw> q+
15:46:33 <paulc> adk adrian
15:46:37 <paulc> ack adrian
15:46:41 <jasonlewis> David: ran into roadblock that object created also is event handler;  is this pattern acceptable?
15:47:29 <markw> q-
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15:47:36 <jasonlewis> Adrian: this is a common pattern.  if you add event listener to object then events are queued.  May feel odd, but it is supported by the way event handlers are implemented
15:47:49 <jasonlewis> Paul: is there another API that has similar handler
15:48:18 <markw> It still might be better for the HTMLMediaElement to be "createSession" and just remove generateKeyRequest altogether
15:48:19 <jasonlewis> Adrian: XHR is similar; 
15:48:23 <ddorwin> Okay, great. I wasn't sure, but that helps a lot.
15:48:24 <SethHodgson> +1 on this being a common JavaScript idiom.
15:48:48 <adrianba> q?
15:49:05 <markw> s/HTMLMediaElement/HTMLMediaElement method
15:49:06 <jasonlewis> David: Yes, i can find the Websocket api/implementation for reference
15:49:54 <jasonlewis> David: sessionId is a part of the object, but it would have to stay not valid .. until we receive the first key response
15:50:40 <jasonlewis> Paul: a) Have we answered the questions that we've talked in email?  or b) do we have enough data to decide how to implement this ?
15:50:48 <jasonlewis> David: Yes
15:51:07 <glenn> is that initData object mutable or immutable?
15:51:54 <SethHodgson> Should be, or should be spec'ed as only read @ input time
15:51:56 <jasonlewis> David: it is an input. So it's currently not exposed.  
15:52:06 <glenn> but if it has members, does mutating those members mean that the changes are intended to be used?
15:52:10 <glenn> i'm on the phone, but mutede
15:52:16 <glenn> s/mutede/muted/
15:52:31 <jasonlewis> Paul: trying to clarify; is it read only?
15:52:39 <glenn> ok, so there is no initData object per se?
15:53:01 <adrianba> initData is a Uint8Array
15:53:09 <jasonlewis> David: initData is blob, that probably came from a file
15:53:40 <jasonlewis> David: session object is mutable, but properties like sessionid are read only
15:53:41 <adrianba> generateKeyRequest reads the data and then uses it - it doesn't keep a reference
15:53:45 <glenn> ok, thanks;
15:53:59 <Zakim> -mahesh
15:54:11 <glenn> be careful about mutability / liveness of session object
15:55:01 <jasonlewis> Topic: Requiring generateKeyRequest() in all cases for all key systems
15:55:13 <jasonlewis> Paul: Solved by previous discussion
15:55:21 <adrianba> q+ to ask another question on the object
15:56:09 <jasonlewis> Topic: Next Steps
15:56:40 <adrianba> q?
15:56:49 <jasonlewis> Paul: seems that we need a change proposal for items a, b, c from agenda and bring this to meeting by July 10
15:57:14 <jasonlewis> David: I will get this out today
15:57:23 <jasonlewis> Topic: Any other business
15:58:01 <jasonlewis> Adrian: is it possible to get from keySession object from mediaElement
15:58:17 <Martin> +1 to being able to get from key session object to media element
15:58:33 <Zakim> -Mark_Vickers
15:58:34 <jasonlewis> Adrian: if an event fires, how do you associate it with the mediaElement
15:59:02 <adrianba> rrsagent, make minutes
15:59:02 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/06/26-html-media-minutes.html adrianba
15:59:08 <jasonlewis> Paul: Is there a volunteer scribe for next week?
15:59:10 <Zakim> -BobLund
15:59:29 <Zakim> -pladd
15:59:31 <Zakim> -whitech
15:59:42 <jasonlewis> Paul: Meeting adjourned
15:59:42 <Zakim> -Clarke
15:59:43 <Zakim> -Martin
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15:59:56 <Zakim> -adrianba
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16:00:10 <adrianba> zakim, bye
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16:00:12 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees were +1.206.664.aaaa, duncanr, +1.352.870.aabb, markw, +1.303.503.aacc, Martin, +1.858.677.aadd, +1.858.735.aaee, pladd, kstreeter, glenn,
16:00:12 <Zakim> ... adrianba, paulc, yang, ddorwin, jasonlewis, johnsim-microsoft, Petr, +1.415.832.aagg, whitech, Clarke, nixu, Mark_Vickers, +1.818.560.aahh, BobLund, acolwell, mahesh, Plh,
16:00:12 <Zakim> ... SethHodgson
16:00:17 <adrianba> rrsagent, make minutes
16:00:17 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/06/26-html-media-minutes.html adrianba
16:00:35 <adrianba> Chair: Paul Cotton
16:00:38 <adrianba> rrsagent, make minutes
16:00:38 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/06/26-html-media-minutes.html adrianba
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