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16:01:34 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be html_wg
16:01:34 <Zakim> ok, trackbot, I see HTML_WG()12:00PM already started
16:01:35 <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
16:01:35 <trackbot> Date: 21 June 2012
16:01:39 <Zakim> +Plh
16:01:57 <paulc> zakim, who is on the phone?
16:01:57 <Zakim> On the phone I see ??P1, [Microsoft], [Microsoft.a], Sam, [Microsoft.aa], Plh
16:02:01 <plh> Agenda+ http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2012AprJun/0036.html
16:02:09 <Martin> Martin has joined #html-wg
16:02:15 <paulc> zakim, [Microsoft] has paulc
16:02:15 <Zakim> +paulc; got it
16:02:17 <eliot> zakim, microsoft.a has me
16:02:17 <Zakim> +eliot; got it
16:02:24 <janina> zakim, ??P1 is Janina
16:02:24 <Zakim> +Janina; got it
16:02:36 <plh> scribe: plh
16:02:44 <Zakim> + +1.415.595.aaaa
16:02:45 <krisk> zakim, microsoft.aa has me
16:02:45 <Zakim> +[Microsoft.aaa]
16:02:45 <Zakim> +krisk; got it
16:02:51 <Zakim> +Martin
16:02:52 <plh> zakim, clear agenda
16:02:53 <Zakim> agenda cleared
16:02:58 <plh> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2012AprJun/0036.html
16:03:01 <jaymunro> zakim, [Microsoft] is me
16:03:01 <Zakim> +jaymunro; got it
16:03:01 <Clarke> Clarke has joined #html-wg
16:03:12 <plh> agenda+ action items
16:03:24 <plh> agenda+ New issues
16:03:37 <plh> agenda+ Items Closed Last Week
16:03:44 <MikeSmith> Zakim, call MIke
16:03:44 <Zakim> ok, MikeSmith; the call is being made
16:03:45 <Zakim> +MIke
16:03:46 <plh> agenda+ Items Closing This Week
16:03:48 <Zakim> +??P16
16:03:55 <Clarke> zakim, ??P16 isme
16:03:55 <Zakim> I don't understand '??P16 isme', Clarke
16:04:03 <plh> agenda+ Task Force Reports
16:04:04 <Zakim> + +1.408.475.aabb
16:04:10 <Clarke> zakim, ??P16 is me
16:04:10 <Zakim> +Clarke; got it
16:04:16 <plh> agenda+ Other business
16:04:19 <paulc> zakim, who is on the phone?
16:04:19 <Zakim> On the phone I see Janina, jaymunro, [Microsoft.a], Sam, [Microsoft.aa], Plh, +1.415.595.aaaa, [Microsoft.aaa], Martin, MIke, Clarke, +1.408.475.aabb
16:04:21 <Zakim> jaymunro has paulc
16:04:21 <Zakim> [Microsoft.aa] has krisk
16:04:21 <Zakim> [Microsoft.a] has eliot
16:04:34 <eliot> de nada
16:04:42 <plh> agenda+ Next meeting
16:05:04 <Clarke> +Clarke_Stevens
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16:05:17 <mjs> Zakim, +1.415.595.aaaa is me
16:05:23 <Zakim> +mjs; got it
16:05:30 <plh> zakim, aabb is Clarke
16:05:30 <Zakim> +Clarke; got it
16:06:14 <Zakim> -jaymunro
16:06:27 <Clarke> -Clarke.a
16:06:37 <jaymunro> jaymunro, [Microsoft] is me
16:06:40 <Clarke> zakim, who is on the phone?
16:06:40 <Zakim> On the phone I see Janina, [Microsoft.a], Sam, [Microsoft.aa], Plh, mjs, [Microsoft.aaa], Martin, MIke, Clarke, Clarke.a
16:06:42 <Zakim> [Microsoft.aa] has krisk
16:06:42 <Zakim> [Microsoft.a] has eliot
16:07:12 <paulc> zakim, [Microsoft.aaa] has paulc
16:07:12 <Zakim> +paulc; got it
16:07:20 <R_Berkoff> Zakim, list attendees
16:07:20 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been Sam, Plh, paulc, eliot, Janina, krisk, Martin, jaymunro, MIke, +1.408.475.aabb, Clarke, mjs
16:07:39 <plh> zakim, move to next agendum
16:07:39 <Zakim> agendum 1. "action items" taken up [from plh]
16:07:46 <plh> action-219?
16:07:46 <trackbot> ACTION-219 -- Edward O'Connor to review Michael Cooper's CP for ISSUE-199a -- due 2012-06-14 -- OPEN
16:07:46 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/219
16:07:51 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
16:07:54 <plh> Paul: Ted sent regrets
16:08:03 <R_Berkoff> Zaikim, +1.408.475.aabb is R_Berkoff(Samsung)
16:08:03 <plh> ... and told the Chairs he'll told by tomorrow
16:08:14 <R_Berkoff> Zakim, list attendees
16:08:14 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been Sam, Plh, paulc, eliot, Janina, krisk, Martin, jaymunro, MIke, +1.408.475.aabb, Clarke, mjs, [Microsoft]
16:08:39 <R_Berkoff> Zaikim, 1.408.475.aabb is R_Berkoff(Samsung)
16:08:42 <plh> action-212?
16:08:42 <trackbot> ACTION-212 -- Michael[tm] Smith to draft revised HTML WG charter for May 31 -- due 2012-06-21 -- OPEN
16:08:42 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/212
16:08:52 <R_Berkoff> Zakim, 1.408.475.aabb is R_Berkoff(Samsung)
16:08:52 <Zakim> sorry, R_Berkoff, I do not recognize a party named '1.408.475.aabb'
16:09:00 <R_Berkoff> Zakim, +1.408.475.aabb is R_Berkoff(Samsung)
16:09:00 <Zakim> sorry, R_Berkoff, I do not recognize a party named '+1.408.475.aabb'
16:09:09 <plh> Mike: I'll have the charter sent out to the Group later today
16:09:19 <plh> Paul: ok, then let's close it
16:09:23 <plh> close action-212
16:09:23 <trackbot> ACTION-212 Draft revised HTML WG charter for May 31 closed
16:09:34 <plh> Paul: next step is for feedback from the WG
16:09:39 <R_Berkoff> Zakim, R_Berkoff(Samsung) is +408.475.aabb
16:09:39 <Zakim> sorry, R_Berkoff, I do not recognize a party named 'R_Berkoff(Samsung)'
16:10:01 <plh> Mike: yes, I'll address the feedback as well
16:10:09 <plh> action-217?
16:10:09 <trackbot> ACTION-217 -- Richard Schwerdtfeger to create a joint Path location add hit testing binding CP for ISSUE-201 that binds canvas to fallback content (Rich, Ted, Frank) -- due 2012-06-21 -- OPEN
16:10:09 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/217
16:10:34 <MikeSmith> action-212: Mike will send out draft charter to HTML WG for review later today, 2012-06-21
16:10:34 <trackbot> ACTION-212 Draft revised HTML WG charter for May 31 notes added
16:10:46 <plh> Paul: Frank sent Ted an email requesting his feedback, and Ted will provide the feedback by tomorrow.
16:11:15 <plh> Paul: let's leave the action open and we'll continue to track it
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16:11:18 <plh> zakim, move to next agendum
16:11:18 <Zakim> agendum 2. "New issues" taken up [from plh]
16:11:24 <plh> Paul: None
16:11:30 <plh> zakim, move to next agendum
16:11:30 <Zakim> agendum 2 was just opened, plh
16:11:35 <plh> zakim, close agendum 2
16:11:35 <Zakim> agendum 2, New issues, closed
16:11:36 <Zakim> I see 5 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
16:11:36 <Zakim> 3. Items Closed Last Week [from plh]
16:11:37 <plh> zakim, move to next agendum
16:11:37 <R_Berkoff> Zakim, 1.408.475.aabb is R_Berkoff(Samsung)
16:11:38 <Zakim> agendum 3. "Items Closed Last Week" taken up [from plh]
16:11:38 <Zakim> sorry, R_Berkoff, I do not recognize a party named '1.408.475.aabb'
16:11:41 <plh> Paul: None
16:11:46 <plh> zakim, move to next agendum
16:11:46 <Zakim> agendum 3 was just opened, plh
16:11:49 <plh> zakim, close agendum 3
16:11:49 <Zakim> agendum 3, Items Closed Last Week, closed
16:11:50 <Zakim> I see 4 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
16:11:50 <Zakim> 4. Items Closing This Week [from plh]
16:11:51 <plh> zakim, move to next agendum
16:11:52 <Zakim> agendum 4. "Items Closing This Week" taken up [from plh]
16:12:08 <plh> Paul: didn't see objections for Cfc on ISSUE-203
16:12:26 <plh> ... Chairs will evaluate and resolve the issue, then transmit to editors
16:12:42 <plh> Paul: Issue-184 is closing today
16:12:52 <R_Berkoff> Zakim, list attendees
16:12:52 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been Sam, Plh, paulc, eliot, Janina, krisk, Martin, jaymunro, MIke, +1.408.475.aabb, Clarke, mjs, [Microsoft]
16:13:24 <R_Berkoff> Zakim, +1.408.475.aabb is R_Berkoff(Samsung)
16:13:24 <Zakim> sorry, R_Berkoff, I do not recognize a party named '+1.408.475.aabb'
16:13:27 <plh> Paul: issue-185 was broken into 2 separate straw poll, drop-pubdate and moddate
16:13:41 <plh> ... once the survey closes, will look at results and issue a decision
16:14:19 <plh> Topic: Items Closing, New Calls, New Surveys, Decisions
16:14:22 <plh> Paul: None
16:14:27 <plh> zakim, move to next agendum
16:14:27 <Zakim> agendum 5. "Task Force Reports" taken up [from plh]
16:14:48 <R_Berkoff> Zakim, +1.408.475.aabb is R_Berkoff
16:14:48 <Zakim> sorry, R_Berkoff, I do not recognize a party named '+1.408.475.aabb'
16:15:16 <krisk> Here are the meeting note from the TTF meeting on june 19th
16:15:18 <krisk> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-testsuite/2012Jun/0010.html
16:15:44 <krisk> More disucssion on bugzilla 17141
16:15:57 <plh> Kris: Testing report: we ran out of time at last meeting. we discussed bug 17141 but no agreement
16:16:00 <plh> q+
16:16:22 <plh> Kris: we approved a few tests submitted by Mathias and Ms2Ger
16:16:39 <plh> ... discussed some canvas updates
16:17:04 <plh> ack me
16:18:14 <plh> plh: regarding 17141, the spec doesn't match the implementations anymore
16:18:30 <plh> ... so the test now matches the spec but a bug might get raised against the spec
16:18:53 <plh> Kris: yes, no one throws an exception, but now the spec says it should
16:19:26 <plh> ... I'll open a bug
16:19:28 <plh> http://www.w3.org/TR/2012/WD-2dcontext-20120329/#dom-context-2d-createpattern
16:20:28 <plh> Janina: shor report this week: handful of issues where we're closed to coming to agreement
16:20:46 <plh> ... associated with the actions discussed earlier
16:21:03 <R_Berkoff> Zakim, +1.408.475.0767 is R_Berkoff
16:21:03 <Zakim> sorry, R_Berkoff, I do not recognize a party named '+1.408.475.0767'
16:21:30 <plh> ... hopefully, once the actions are done, we'll be able to move forward
16:21:59 <plh> Paul: lots of people are very busy unfortunately, trying to find the most expeditious way to break through the dependencies
16:22:12 <MikeSmith> Zakim, +1.408.475.aabb is R_Berkoff 
16:22:12 <Zakim> sorry, MikeSmith, I do not recognize a party named '+1.408.475.aabb'
16:22:25 <MikeSmith> Zakim, who's on the phone?
16:22:26 <Zakim> On the phone I see Janina, [Microsoft.a], Sam, [Microsoft.aa], Plh, mjs, [Microsoft.aaa], Martin, MIke, Clarke, Clarke.a, [Microsoft]
16:22:26 <Zakim> [Microsoft.aa] has krisk
16:22:26 <Zakim> [Microsoft.aaa] has paulc
16:22:26 <Zakim> [Microsoft.a] has eliot
16:23:16 <plh> Paul: Media sub-team report: 2 meetings already on Tuesday at 11am US/Eastern.
16:23:31 <plh> ... alternating between media source and encrypted
16:23:40 <plh> ... next Tuesday is media encrypted
16:24:04 <plh> ... we changed the interface in media source to be more object oriented
16:24:49 <plh> ... going at current pace, the sub-team will be able to come to the WG and consider a FPWD in 2 months
16:25:03 <plh> ... those drafts are layered on top of HTML5
16:25:05 <plh> zakim, move to next agendum
16:25:06 <Zakim> agendum 6. "Other business" taken up [from plh]
16:25:24 <plh> issue-189?
16:25:24 <trackbot> ISSUE-189 -- Prefix convention needs to be coordinated with IETF -- open
16:25:24 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/189
16:25:34 <R_Berkoff> Zakim, +aabb is R_Berkoff
16:25:34 <Zakim> sorry, R_Berkoff, I do not recognize a party named '+aabb'
16:25:38 <plh> Paul: we extended the delivery date for Ted until July 6
16:25:42 <plh> issue-194?
16:25:42 <trackbot> ISSUE-194 -- Provide a mechanism for associating a full transcript with an audio or video element. -- open
16:25:42 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/194
16:25:59 <R_Berkoff> Zakim, +408is R_Berkoff
16:25:59 <Zakim> I don't understand '+408is R_Berkoff', R_Berkoff
16:26:03 <plh> Paul: meeting a couple of weeks ago and Silvia posted a new draft this week
16:26:07 <plh> ... needs to be reviewed
16:26:09 <R_Berkoff> Zakim, +408 is R_Berkoff
16:26:09 <Zakim> sorry, R_Berkoff, I do not recognize a party named '+408'
16:26:17 <plh> ... thinking to schedule an actual meeting
16:26:22 <plh> Janina: that's on my list
16:26:28 <plh> issue-195?
16:26:28 <trackbot> ISSUE-195 -- Enhance http request generation from forms -- open
16:26:28 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/195
16:26:47 <plh> Paul: Cameron change proposal needs update, due June 27
16:27:02 <plh> ... if it doesn't happen, we'll deem the change proposal withdrawn
16:27:06 <plh> issue-200?
16:27:06 <trackbot> ISSUE-200 -- Allow wrapping LEGEND (or new iLEGEND) in non-FIELDSET elements -- open
16:27:06 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/200
16:27:25 <plh> Paul: again, we changed the deadline to July 6 due to Ted's queue
16:27:32 <plh> issue-204?
16:27:32 <trackbot> ISSUE-204 -- Exempt ARIA attributes from the rule that prohibits reference to hidden elements -- open
16:27:32 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/204
16:28:10 <plh> Janina: John will try again to draft some languages, following a conversation he had with Ted
16:28:29 <R_Berkoff> Zakim, +1.408.475.aabb is me
16:28:29 <Zakim> sorry, R_Berkoff, I do not recognize a party named '+1.408.475.aabb'
16:28:30 <plh> ... Ted said that, in principle, MAY language would be acceptable
16:28:45 <plh> ... so trying to move forward on that
16:28:48 <R_Berkoff> list attendees
16:28:57 <R_Berkoff> Zakim, list attendees
16:28:57 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been Sam, Plh, paulc, eliot, Janina, krisk, Martin, jaymunro, MIke, +1.408.475.aabb, Clarke, mjs, [Microsoft]
16:29:12 <plh> issue-31?
16:29:12 <trackbot> ISSUE-31 -- Author conformance requirements for the alt attribute on images -- closed
16:29:12 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/31
16:29:30 <plh> Paul: the chairs expect to give a response on issue-31c next week for the reopen request
16:29:41 <plh> zakim, move to next agendum
16:29:41 <Zakim> agendum 7. "Next meeting" taken up [from plh]
16:29:50 <plh> Sam: I will chair
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16:30:08 <krisk> I can scribe
16:31:10 <plh> [adjourned]
16:31:13 <Zakim> -Martin
16:31:14 <Zakim> -Clarke
16:31:15 <Zakim> -Plh
16:31:16 <Zakim> -Janina
16:31:16 <Zakim> -[Microsoft]
16:31:17 <Zakim> -Sam
16:31:17 <Zakim> -[Microsoft.a]
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16:31:24 <Zakim> -[Microsoft.aa]
16:31:37 <Zakim> -[Microsoft.aaa]
16:31:38 <Zakim> HTML_WG()12:00PM has ended
16:31:38 <Zakim> Attendees were Sam, Plh, paulc, eliot, Janina, krisk, Martin, jaymunro, MIke, +1.408.475.aabb, Clarke, mjs, [Microsoft]
16:33:05 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/06/21-html-wg-minutes.html plh
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