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16:59:27 <janina> zakim, this will be 2119
16:59:27 <Zakim> I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, janina
16:59:48 <janina> zakim, this will be 2119
16:59:48 <Zakim> I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, janina
16:59:56 <janina> trackbot, start meeting
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17:00:09 <janina> zakim, this will be 2119
17:00:09 <Zakim> I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, janina
17:00:41 <janina> zakim, room for 10?
17:00:42 <Zakim> ok, janina; conference Team_(text)17:00Z scheduled with code 2119 (A11Y) for 60 minutes until 1800Z
17:01:06 <Zakim> Team_(text)17:00Z has now started
17:01:06 <janina> zakim, this will be 2119
17:01:07 <Zakim> ok, janina; I see Team_(text)17:00Z scheduled to start now
17:02:41 <janina> regrets: david
17:03:05 <JF> zakim, first item
17:03:05 <Zakim> I don't understand 'first item', JF
17:03:09 <janina> zakim, who's on the phone?
17:03:09 <Zakim> I notice Team_(text)17:00Z has restarted
17:03:10 <Zakim> On the phone I see John_Foliot, Judy, ??P1
17:03:15 <JF> zakim, take up next item
17:03:15 <Zakim> I see nothing on the agenda
17:03:21 <janina> zakim, ??P1 is Janina
17:03:21 <Zakim> +Janina; got it
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17:05:19 <JF> scribe:JF
17:05:42 <janina> agenda?
17:05:49 <janina> agenda+ Agenda review; identify scribe.
17:05:50 <janina> agenda+ Issue 31b, buggy alts and buggy alt guidance: Reviewing
17:05:50 <janina> updated bug matrix from David, and intro from Janina.
17:05:50 <janina> agenda+ Status updates only where questions or as needed on:
17:05:50 <janina> - Issues 31c, meta generator re-open question: Still pending review:
17:05:52 <janina> +http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/Issue31cMetaGeneratorUpdated
17:05:55 <janina> - Issue 194, transcript: update on deadline
17:05:57 <janina> - Issue 199, ARIA processing: update on deadline
17:06:00 <janina> - Issue 203, media descriptors: update on not calling 203 until 30 is resolved
17:06:02 <janina> - Issue 30, longdesc: remaining relevance or not of 204 question to 30
17:06:05 <janina> agenda+ Confirm next meeting; identify next scribe; adjourn.
17:06:17 <JF> zakim, take up item 1
17:06:17 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Agenda review; identify scribe." taken up [from janina]
17:06:25 <JF> zakim, close item 1
17:06:25 <Zakim> agendum 1, Agenda review; identify scribe., closed
17:06:26 <Zakim> I see 3 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
17:06:26 <Zakim> 2. Issue 31b, buggy alts and buggy alt guidance: Reviewing [from janina]
17:06:37 <JF> zakim, next item
17:06:37 <Zakim> agendum 2. "Issue 31b, buggy alts and buggy alt guidance: Reviewing" taken up [from janina]
17:06:55 <JF> JS: David's document needs some editorial re-working
17:07:11 <JF> Janina has provided some feedback, reviewing on call
17:10:33 <JF> JB: so it needs clearer framing
17:11:02 <JF> this is both alt guidance as well as ALT text in the document?
17:11:13 <JF> JS: think they are split apart
17:11:20 <JF> JB: thought we agreed to combine the 2\
17:11:53 <JF> So we need to read through the entire doc to ensure this happened
17:12:47 <JF> JS: once we give this TF 'blessing" then we make it a TF doc. At this point it is still just a draft
17:12:57 <JF> which is why it has a version number and authroed by David
17:13:12 <JF> s/authroed/authored
17:14:20 <JF> JS: comparing of Technical Recommendation against a draft document
17:14:50 <JF> also looking to remove "hot" words - to reduce any contentious language
17:15:18 <JF> Suggested a matrix (table) as a better way of presenting this
17:16:41 <janina>  http://www.davidmacd.com/WCAG/WAI/buggy.html
17:16:57 <JF> s/http://www.davidmacd.com/WCAG/WAI/buggy.html/ 
17:17:48 <JF> s/http:\/\/www.davidmacd.com\/WCAG\/WAI\/buggy.html/
17:18:20 <JF> s/s\/http:\/\/www.davidmacd.com\/WCAG\/WAI\/buggy.html\// 
17:20:22 <JF> JB: perhaps we should run this by the WCAG WG as well
17:20:43 <JF> JS: agree. wanted that David make changes before we forward to Loretta
17:24:42 <JF> JB: perhaps Janina and John can continue on this (perhaps offline?)
17:27:56 <JF> JF: talked to Ted about issue 204 - think we can find common ground on MAY language
17:28:07 <JF> on JF to try and draft some new text
17:28:46 <Zakim> -Judy
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18:01:15 <JF> rrsagent, make logs public
18:01:23 <JF> rrsagent, draft minutes
18:01:23 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/06/19-text-minutes.html JF
18:02:38 <JF> zakim, please part
18:02:38 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees were John_Foliot, Judy, Janina, +1.715.718.aaaa
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18:02:44 <laura> have to go now.
18:02:45 <JF> rrsagent, please part
18:02:45 <RRSAgent> I see no action items