IRC log of wai-wcag on 2012-06-14
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- logging to http://www.w3.org/2012/06/14-wai-wcag-irc
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- RRSAgent, make logs public
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- Zakim, this will be WAI_WCAG
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- ok, trackbot, I see WAI_WCAG()4:00PM already started
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- Meeting: Web Content Accessibility Guidelines Working Group Teleconference
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- Date: 14 June 2012
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- +Cooper
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- +[Microsoft.a]
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- zakim, Microsoft.a is Alex_Li
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- +Alex_Li; got it
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- zakim, Microsoft is Cherie_Eckholm
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- +Cherie_Eckholm; got it
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- zakim, aaaa is Robin_Tuttle
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- +Robin_Tuttle; got it
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- zakim, ??P3 is Gregg_Vanderheiden
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- +Gregg_Vanderheiden; got it
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- agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2012AprJun/0098.html
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- chair: Gregg_Vanderheiden
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- + +1.978.562.aabb
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- Zakim, aabb is MoeKraft
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- +MoeKraft; got it
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- scribe: MoeKraft
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- +??P11
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- https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/2012-06-14/results
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- zakim, ??P11 is Adam_Solomon
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- +Adam_Solomon; got it
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- topic: Results of Questionairre
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- TOPIC: SC 1.2.4 in Understanding WCAG 2.0
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- +David_MacDonald
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- This SC is not intended to require that two-way multimedia calls between individuals through web apps must be captioned regardless of the needs of users. Responsibility for providing captions would fall to the content providers (the callers) or the “host” caller, and not the application.
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- 20:15:39 [greggvanderheiden]
- This SC is not intended to require that two-way multimedia calls between individuals through web apps must be captioned regardless of the needs of users. Responsibility for providing captions would fall to the content providers (the callers) or the “host” caller, and not the application.
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- This SC was intended to apply to broadcast of synchronized media and is not intended to require that two-way multimedia calls between individuals through web apps must be captioned regardless of the needs of users. Responsibility for providing captions would fall to the content providers (the callers) or the “host” caller, and not the application.
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- -Bruce_Bailey
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- +Bruce_Bailey
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- + +1.617.584.aacc
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- +Katie
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- zakim, aacc is Andrew_Kirkpatrick
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- +Andrew_Kirkpatrick; got it
- 20:23:20 [greggvanderheiden]
- This SC was intended to apply to broadcast of synchronized media and is not intended to require that two-way multimedia calls between individuals through web apps must be captioned regardless of the needs of users. Responsibility for providing captions would fall to the content providers (the callers) or the “host” caller, and not the application.
- 20:26:17 [greggvanderheiden]
- This SC was intended to apply to broadcast of synchronized media and is not intended to require that two-way multimedia calls between two or more individuals through web apps must be captioned regardless of the needs of users. Responsibility for providing captions would fall to the content providers (the callers) or the “host” caller, and not the application.
- 20:27:48 [greggvanderheiden]
- This success criterion was intended to apply to broadcast of synchronized media and is not intended to require that two-way multimedia calls between two or more individuals through web apps must be captioned regardless of the needs of users. Responsibility for providing captions would fall to the content providers (the callers) or the “host” caller, and not the application.
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- +James_Nurthen
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- -Bruce_Bailey
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- RESOLUTION: To add the following to the understanding document for SC 1.2.4 This success criterion was intended to apply to broadcast of synchronized media and is not intended to require that two-way multimedia calls between two or more individuals through web apps must be captioned regardless of the needs of users. Responsibility for providing captions would fall to the content providers (the callers) or the “host” caller, and not the application.
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- TOPIC: SC 2.4.7 in Understanding WCAG 2.0
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- -Andrew_Kirkpatrick
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- TOPIC: Add to RESOLUTION to SC 1.2.9
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- This success criterion was intended to apply to broadcast of audio and is not intended to require that two-way audio calls between two or more individuals through web apps must be captioned regardless of the needs of users. Responsibility for providing captions would fall to the content providers (the callers) or the “host” caller, and not the application.
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- RESOLUTION: To add the following to the Understanding document for SC 1.2.9 This success criterion was intended to apply to broadcast of audio and is not intended to require that two-way audio calls between two or more individuals through web apps must be captioned regardless of the needs of users. Responsibility for providing captions would fall to the content providers (the callers) or the “host” caller, and not the application.
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- +Kathy
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- TOPIC: SC 2.4.7 in Understanding WCAG 2.0
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- which element among multiple elements has the keyboard focus. If there is only one keyboard actionable control on the screen, the success criterion would be met because the visual design presents only one keyboard actionable item.
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- Note that a keyboard focus indicator can take different forms. One common way is a caret within the text field to indicate that the text field has the keyboard focus. Another is a visual change to a button to indicate that that button has the keyboard focus.
- 20:39:38 [greggvanderheiden]
- The purpose of this success criterion is to help a person know which element among multiple elements has the keyboard focus. If there is only one keyboard actionable control on the screen, the success criterion would be met because the visual design presents only one keyboard actionable item.
- 20:39:39 [greggvanderheiden]
- Note that a keyboard focus indicator can take different forms. One common way is a caret within the text field to indicate that the text field has the keyboard focus. Another is a visual change to a button to indicate that that button has the keyboard focus.
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- -David_MacDonald
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- RESOLUTION: To Add the following 2 paragraphs to Understanding document for SC 2.4.7 The purpose of this success criterion is to help a person know which element among multiple elements has the keyboard focus. If there is only one keyboard actionable control on the screen, the success criterion would be met because the visual design presents only one keyboard actionable item.
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- -Adam_Solomon
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- + +1.613.806.aadd
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- RESOLUTION: Note that a keyboard focus indicator can take different forms. One common way is a caret within the text field to indicate that the text field has the keyboard focus. Another is a visual change to a button to indicate that that button has the keyboard focus.
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- TOPIC: SC 3.3.4 in Understanding WCAG 2.0
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- - +1.613.806.aadd
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- modify the end of the first paragraph of the INTENT of SC 3.3.4 to read: Likewise, it may be an unrecoverable error if users unintentionally modify or delete data stored in a database that they later need to access, such as their entire travel profile in a travel services web site. When referring to modification or deletion of 'user controllable' data, the intent is to prevent mass loss of data such as deleting a file or record. It is
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- not the intent to require a confirmation for each save command or the simple creation or editing of documents, records or other data.
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- https://sites.google.com/site/wcag2ict/
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- RESOLUTION: To modify the end of the first paragraph of the INTENT of SC 3.3.4 to read: Likewise, it may be an unrecoverable error if users unintentionally modify or delete data stored in a database that they later need to access, such as their entire travel profile in a travel services web site. When referring to modification or deletion of 'user controllable' data, the intent is to prevent mass loss of data such as deleting a file or record.
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- RESOLUTION: It is not the intent to require a confirmation for each save command or the simple creation or editing of documents, records or other data.
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- -> http://www.w3.org/2006/02/lc-comments-tracker/35422/ Comment Tracker
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- -Katie
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- rrsagent, make minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/06/14-wai-wcag-minutes.html MichaelC
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- -James_Nurthen
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- -Cherie_Eckholm
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- -MoeKraft
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- -Alex_Li
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- -Kathy
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- -Cooper
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- -Marc_Johlic
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- -Robin_Tuttle
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- -Gregg_Vanderheiden
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- WAI_WCAG()4:00PM has ended
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- Attendees were Bruce_Bailey, +1.206.544.aaaa, Marc_Johlic, Cooper, Alex_Li, Cherie_Eckholm, Robin_Tuttle, Gregg_Vanderheiden, +1.978.562.aabb, MoeKraft, Adam_Solomon,
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- ... David_MacDonald, +1.617.584.aacc, Katie, Andrew_Kirkpatrick, James_Nurthen, Kathy, +1.613.806.aadd
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- rrsagent, make minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/06/14-wai-wcag-minutes.html MichaelC
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