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13:44:40 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be DAP
13:44:40 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see UW_DAP()10:00AM scheduled to start in 16 minutes
13:44:41 <trackbot> Meeting: Device APIs Working Group Teleconference
13:44:41 <trackbot> Date: 13 June 2012
13:45:08 <fjh> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2012Jun/0035.html
13:45:30 <fjh> fjh has changed the topic to: dap 3279  ; http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2012Jun/0035.html (fjh)
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13:46:40 <fjh> Chair: Frederick_Hirsch
13:46:44 <fjh> Present+ Frederick_Hirsch
13:46:56 <fjh> Regrets+ Robin_Berjon
13:48:26 <fjh> Regrets+ Travis_Leithead, Jungkee_Song, Claes_ Nilsson
13:51:19 <fjh> zakim, who is here?
13:51:19 <Zakim> UW_DAP()10:00AM has not yet started, fjh
13:51:21 <Zakim> On IRC I see lgombos_, Zakim, RRSAgent, fjh, glenn, Josh_Soref, richt, mounir, lgombos, trackbot, dom, hiroto_away, ilkka
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13:58:23 <Zakim> UW_DAP()10:00AM has now started
13:58:29 <Zakim> +??P12
13:58:35 <fjh> zakim, ??P12  is me
13:58:35 <Zakim> +fjh; got it
13:59:10 <Zakim> + +1.310.310.aaaa
13:59:19 <Zakim> + +49.173.537.aabb
13:59:40 <dcheng3> Present+ Diana_Cheng
13:59:56 <fjh> zakim, where is +1-310?
13:59:56 <Zakim> North American dialing code 1.310 is California
14:00:11 <dcheng3> zakim, aabb is dcheng3
14:00:11 <Zakim> +dcheng3; got it
14:00:20 <Zakim> +??P18
14:00:39 <lgombos_> Zakim, ??P18 is lgombos
14:00:40 <Zakim> +lgombos; got it
14:00:51 <lgombos_> Present+ Laszlo_Gombos
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14:01:14 <Zakim> +??P15
14:01:22 <AnssiK> zakim, ??P15 is me
14:01:22 <Zakim> +AnssiK; got it
14:01:27 <AnssiK> Present+ Anssi_Kostiainen
14:01:39 <jhawkins> jhawkins has joined #dap
14:01:56 <fjh> zakim, aaaa is jhawkins
14:01:56 <Zakim> +jhawkins; got it
14:02:02 <fjh> zakim, who is here?
14:02:02 <Zakim> On the phone I see fjh, jhawkins, dcheng3, lgombos, AnssiK
14:02:03 <Zakim> On IRC I see jhawkins, Wonsuk, dcheng3, AnssiK, lgombos_, Zakim, RRSAgent, fjh, glenn, Josh_Soref, richt, mounir, lgombos, trackbot, dom, hiroto_away, ilkka
14:02:58 <Zakim> + +46.1.07.15.aacc
14:03:16 <Wonsuk> Present+ Wonsuk_Lee
14:03:16 <fjh> zakim, where is +46
14:03:16 <Zakim> fjh, I do not see a party named 'where'.  If you meant to ask a question you need to add '?'
14:03:23 <fjh> zakim, where is +46?
14:03:23 <Zakim> country code 46 is Sweden
14:03:31 <Zakim> + +1.503.542.aadd
14:03:40 <fjh> zakim, aacc is niklas
14:03:40 <Zakim> +niklas; got it
14:04:26 <fjh> zakim, where is +1-503?
14:04:26 <Zakim> North American dialing code 1.503 is Oregon
14:05:14 <fjh> ScribeNick: fjh
14:05:19 <fjh> Topic: Administrative
14:05:30 <fjh> Publishing moratoria, 2H2012 https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-device-apis/2012May/0000.html
14:05:30 <fjh> 19 June webinos launch, http://webinos.org/launch-day
14:05:30 <fjh> No DAP teleconference on 4 July 2012 (also is US holiday), and no teleconference on 18 July 2012. DAP F2F 10-12 July.
14:05:51 <Zakim> + +1.289.261.aaee
14:05:52 <Clarke> Clarke has joined #dap
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14:06:09 <Josh_Soref> Zakim, aaee is me
14:06:09 <Zakim> +Josh_Soref; got it
14:06:13 <Josh_Soref> Zakim, mute me
14:06:13 <Zakim> Josh_Soref should now be muted
14:06:23 <Josh_Soref> Scribe: Josh_Soref
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14:06:39 <Josh_Soref> Topic: Minutes Approval
14:06:45 <fjh> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2012May/att-0301/minutes-2012-05-30.html
14:06:58 <Zakim> +??P30
14:07:02 <Josh_Soref> RESOLUTION: Approve minutes from 30 May
14:07:07 <Josh_Soref> Topic: Web Intents
14:07:10 <Clarke> zakim, ??P30 is me
14:07:10 <Zakim> +Clarke; got it
14:07:19 <Josh_Soref> fjh: mounir submitted a proposal (Web Activities)
14:07:33 <Josh_Soref> ... from the list, it sounds like they aren't as far forward as they think they are
14:07:49 <Josh_Soref> ... we could talk about Intents/Activities at the F2F
14:08:07 <Zakim> + +1.781.266.aaff
14:08:12 <Josh_Soref> ... 2 - there's the issue of Contacts and similar in DAP v. System Apps
14:08:16 <Cathy> zakim, aaff is me
14:08:16 <Zakim> +Cathy; got it
14:08:18 <Josh_Soref> ... 3 - xxx
14:08:54 <Josh_Soref> jhawkins: this will be my first time Chairing
14:09:02 <Josh_Soref> ... i need information about FPWD
14:09:15 <Josh_Soref> ... i'm ok with holding off for a couple of days
14:09:26 <Josh_Soref> ... i have a reply for their counter-proposal that i hope to send off today
14:09:43 <Josh_Soref> fjh: the draft is a Web Intents draft
14:09:49 <Josh_Soref> ... there's nothing wrong with publishing now
14:10:08 <Josh_Soref> ... a minor concern is that it solicits feedback and review
14:10:13 <Josh_Soref> ... there's no reason not to
14:10:21 <Josh_Soref> ... it's a matter of how long it takes to do the next thing
14:10:32 <Josh_Soref> ... i'm of the impression it might take a little longer to figure things out
14:10:54 <Josh_Soref> ... maybe we should add a note in the Status of Document section acknowledging the counter proposal
14:11:05 <Josh_Soref> Zakim, who is speaking?
14:11:15 <Zakim> Josh_Soref, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: 10 (51%)
14:11:23 <Zakim> +??P8
14:11:23 <Josh_Soref> jhawkins: i'd to get feedback from ArtB
14:11:25 <Zakim> -Cathy
14:11:33 <Cathy> zakim, ??P8 is me
14:11:33 <Zakim> +Cathy; got it
14:11:34 <Josh_Soref> Zakim, 10 is jhawkins 
14:11:34 <Zakim> sorry, Josh_Soref, I do not recognize a party named '10'
14:11:58 <Josh_Soref> fjh: i think we need to keep moving
14:12:02 <Josh_Soref> jhawkins: i agree
14:12:06 <Josh_Soref> ... i'll send out my notes today
14:12:14 <Josh_Soref> ... and people can get my opinions
14:12:21 <Josh_Soref> fjh: and you can talk to ArtB
14:12:28 <Josh_Soref> jhawkins: i agree
14:12:33 <Josh_Soref> fjh: i'd like to get it done
14:12:43 <Josh_Soref> ... we can use time at the F2F
14:12:54 <Josh_Soref> ... i'm not sure who will be attending
14:13:03 <Josh_Soref> ... i'm not sure if mounir will attend
14:13:10 <Josh_Soref> jhawkins: are you concerned about lack of critical mass
14:13:17 <Josh_Soref> q+ to note that dougt investigated attending
14:13:37 <Josh_Soref> fjh: it can't hurt to ask mozilla about attending
14:13:42 <Josh_Soref> jhawkins: i'll make an attempt to ask
14:13:50 <Josh_Soref> ... but i'll note there isn't an open channel available
14:13:51 <Josh_Soref> ack me
14:13:52 <Zakim> Josh_Soref, you wanted to note that dougt investigated attending
14:14:05 <Josh_Soref> Zakim, mute me
14:14:05 <Zakim> Josh_Soref should now be muted
14:14:35 <Josh_Soref> fjh: anyone else have comments about Web Intents?
14:14:44 <Josh_Soref> ... i know Claes isn't on the call
14:15:10 <Josh_Soref> q+ to note that i planned to send a response to mounir's proposal, but i'm backlogged by lots of other things
14:15:14 <Josh_Soref> ack me
14:15:15 <Zakim> Josh_Soref, you wanted to note that i planned to send a response to mounir's proposal, but i'm backlogged by lots of other things
14:15:48 <Josh_Soref> Zakim, mute me
14:15:48 <Zakim> Josh_Soref should now be muted
14:16:03 <Josh_Soref> Topic: F2F
14:16:08 <fjh> Please complete attendance questionnaire:  https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/43696/DAPJuly2012F2F/
14:16:14 <Josh_Soref> fjh: it's good to know
14:16:21 <fjh> (results https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/43696/DAPJuly2012F2F/results )
14:16:21 <Josh_Soref> ... please complete whether you intend to attend or not
14:16:21 <fjh> Logistics: http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/wiki/BurlingtonF2F2012
14:16:21 <fjh> Draft Agenda: http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/wiki/F2F_Agenda_10-12_July_2012,_Burlington,_MA_USA
14:16:49 <Josh_Soref> fjh: if you have questions about the agenda, please ask
14:16:53 <Josh_Soref> ... anyone have any comments now?
14:16:58 <fjh> Two additional calls before F2F, 20/27 June
14:17:10 <Josh_Soref> Topic: Device Storage API / Gallery
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14:17:18 <Josh_Soref> fjh: there's a thread about file system
14:17:22 <Josh_Soref> ... and where do you put stuff
14:17:29 <Josh_Soref> ... i'm not sure the thread reached a conclusion
14:17:34 <fjh> zakim, who is here?
14:17:34 <Zakim> On the phone I see fjh, jhawkins, dcheng3, lgombos, AnssiK, niklas, +1.503.542.aadd, Josh_Soref (muted), Clarke, Cathy
14:17:36 <Zakim> On IRC I see dtran, Cathy, nwidell, Clarke, jhawkins, Wonsuk, dcheng3, AnssiK, lgombos_, Zakim, RRSAgent, fjh, glenn, Josh_Soref, richt, mounir, lgombos, trackbot, dom,
14:17:36 <Zakim> ... hiroto_away, ilkka
14:17:43 <Josh_Soref> q+ to note that flat file systems do not scale well
14:17:47 <dtran> +Present Dzung_Tran
14:17:54 <Josh_Soref> s/+Present/Present+/
14:18:08 <Josh_Soref> jhawkins: you may have seen feedback from yyy
14:18:19 <fjh> zakim, who is making noise?
14:18:23 <Josh_Soref> ... it's just a chrome extension api
14:18:32 <Zakim> fjh, listening for 12 seconds I heard sound from the following: fjh (4%), jhawkins (95%), +1.503.542.aadd (77%)
14:18:33 <Josh_Soref> ... we want to wall it off from the web platform initially
14:18:39 <Josh_Soref> Zakim, mute aadd
14:18:39 <Zakim> +1.503.542.aadd should now be muted
14:18:49 <Josh_Soref> ... we need it elsewhere now
14:19:00 <Josh_Soref> ... our implementation of the api is more system level than jungkee's
14:19:05 <Josh_Soref> ... i like the intents based version
14:19:11 <Josh_Soref> ... i haven't looked into it as much as i'd like to
14:19:18 <Josh_Soref> ... it seems there are different levels of permissions
14:19:23 <Josh_Soref> ... that may warrant different apis
14:19:30 <Josh_Soref> ... the gallery level being more system
14:19:33 <Josh_Soref> ... needs more security
14:19:39 <Josh_Soref> ... whereas the intents version is safer
14:19:59 <Josh_Soref> s/yyy/steve yya/
14:20:10 <Josh_Soref> fjh: do you have a URL for the chrome extension?
14:20:23 <Josh_Soref> ACTION: jhawkins to send URL for gallery chrome extension to the list
14:20:29 <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - jhawkins
14:20:41 <Josh_Soref> fjh: the Web Notification WG changed Feature Permissions to
14:20:45 <Josh_Soref> ... aaa?
14:21:06 <Josh_Soref> ... AnssiK do you know what's going on there?
14:21:12 <Cathy> s/steve yya/Steve VanDeBogart/
14:21:16 <Josh_Soref> AnssiK: anne rewrote the spec to comply with pubrules
14:21:20 <Josh_Soref> ... and there's been discussion
14:21:23 <Josh_Soref> ... apple contributed
14:21:39 <Josh_Soref> s/aaa/tie in with WebIDL/
14:21:51 <Josh_Soref> fjh: they thought about permissions
14:21:58 <Josh_Soref> ... they added an attribute permitted/not
14:22:06 <Josh_Soref> AnssiK: tied to a notifications model
14:22:17 <Josh_Soref> ... we should not worry about that
14:22:26 <Josh_Soref> fjh: we should avoid spinning things out into new WGs
14:22:46 <Josh_Soref> ... it's clear we should be aware of permissions
14:22:54 <Josh_Soref> ... i think it's a topic we have to work through
14:22:55 <dtran> aadd is me
14:23:04 <Josh_Soref> Zakim, who is on the call?
14:23:04 <Zakim> On the phone I see fjh, jhawkins, dcheng3, lgombos, AnssiK, niklas, +1.503.542.aadd (muted), Josh_Soref (muted), Clarke, Cathy
14:23:23 <Josh_Soref> Zakim, aadd is Dzung_Tran
14:23:23 <Zakim> +Dzung_Tran; got it
14:23:28 <Josh_Soref> Zakim, nick dtran is Dzung_Tran
14:23:28 <Zakim> ok, Josh_Soref, I now associate dtran with Dzung_Tran
14:23:40 <Josh_Soref> lgombos_: in the case of notifications
14:23:55 <Josh_Soref> ... the conclusion is that we can't ccc permisions
14:24:03 <Josh_Soref> ... i think generally we want to avoid
14:24:15 <Josh_Soref> ... permission requests
14:24:22 <Josh_Soref> ... and favor implicit consent
14:24:38 <Josh_Soref> fjh: if we can avoid permissions, and use web intents, we should
14:24:47 <Josh_Soref> ... and we can roll web activities into that
14:24:52 <Josh_Soref> Topic: Deliverable Review
14:25:00 <Josh_Soref> Zakim, who is on the call?
14:25:00 <Zakim> On the phone I see fjh, jhawkins, dcheng3, lgombos, AnssiK, niklas, Dzung_Tran (muted), Josh_Soref (muted), Clarke, Cathy
14:25:04 <fjh> http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/
14:25:08 <Josh_Soref> fjh: it's unfortunate that darobin was unable to attend
14:25:14 <Josh_Soref> ... he had something come up at the last minute
14:25:21 <Josh_Soref> ... for Battery and ddd
14:25:30 <Josh_Soref> s/ddd/Vibration/
14:25:35 <Josh_Soref> ... we are in CR and we can go to PR soon
14:25:43 <Josh_Soref> ... AnssiK are we thinking Fall or Sooner?
14:26:00 <Josh_Soref> ... maybe i should do this offline, involving dsr and darobin
14:26:06 <Josh_Soref> AnssiK: what are the blockers for progress?
14:26:10 <Josh_Soref> ... test suite
14:26:15 <Josh_Soref> ... and a conformance report
14:26:22 <Josh_Soref> fjh: thank you, we need the test suite
14:26:25 <Josh_Soref> ... and formal interop
14:26:33 <Josh_Soref> ... we need to figure out the time frame for that
14:26:49 <Josh_Soref> ... the next step is to know who is doing what and when
14:26:54 <Josh_Soref> ... HTML MC
14:27:00 <Josh_Soref> ... i think we need to publish another Draft
14:27:18 <Josh_Soref> ... we could go to LC, but i think it's premature
14:27:24 <Josh_Soref> ... we need to figure out when to go to LC w/ it
14:27:29 <Josh_Soref> ... Network Permission APIs
14:27:33 <Josh_Soref> ... it's fairly simple
14:27:37 <Josh_Soref> ... we published a Draft in June
14:27:42 <Josh_Soref> ... but we can wait
14:27:50 <Josh_Soref> ... Proximity... FPWD - we don't have one
14:28:01 <Josh_Soref> ... we had activity, but it's calmed down
14:28:08 <Josh_Soref> ... i think we should do a FPWD
14:28:17 <Josh_Soref> ... i can't remember who the editor is
14:28:22 <fjh> Anssi
14:28:24 <Josh_Soref> AnssiK: i think we should go for FPWD
14:28:35 <Josh_Soref> ... it has an issue of side-effects
14:28:40 <Josh_Soref> fjh: i'll do a CfC for that
14:28:49 <Josh_Soref> ... it's good to have frequent publications
14:29:03 <Josh_Soref> ... any concern with having a FPWD for Proximity?
14:29:12 <Josh_Soref> ... i'm having trouble with ReSpec, i'm not sure if it's working?
14:29:20 <Josh_Soref> AnssiK: it's looking fine for me
14:29:24 <dtran> no concern
14:29:28 <Josh_Soref> ... I updated all my specs to use the latest ReSpec
14:29:30 <fjh> action: fjh to start CfC for FPWD of proximity
14:29:31 <trackbot> Created ACTION-541 - Start CfC for FPWD of proximity [on Frederick Hirsch - due 2012-06-20].
14:29:34 <Josh_Soref> ... seems to work fine for me
14:29:42 <Josh_Soref> fjh: i'll look into it later, it must be me
14:29:47 <Josh_Soref> AnssiK: do a force-refresh
14:30:14 <Josh_Soref> fjh: Contacts/Calendar
14:30:18 <Josh_Soref> ... we're kind of blocked on them
14:30:24 <Josh_Soref> ... i think we want to unblock them
14:30:48 <Josh_Soref> ... we were using Gallery as the first test with Web Intents
14:30:50 <fjh> Web Application Privacy Best Practices
14:30:58 <fjh> would like to progress to Note
14:31:08 <fjh> ACTION-470?
14:31:08 <trackbot> ACTION-470 -- Frederick Hirsch to update web application privacy best practices related to active consent -- due 2011-11-10 -- OPEN
14:31:08 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/470
14:31:15 <Josh_Soref> fjh: it has been around a long time
14:31:23 <Josh_Soref> ... i'd like to put out a CfC to publish it
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14:32:02 <fjh> action: fjh to review Web Application Privacy Best Practices, complete ACTION-470, put out CfC to publish as Note
14:32:02 <trackbot> Created ACTION-542 - Review Web Application Privacy Best Practices, complete ACTION-470, put out CfC to publish as Note [on Frederick Hirsch - due 2012-06-20].
14:32:25 <Josh_Soref> Josh_Soref: i'll try to review it at some point tomorrow
14:32:44 <Josh_Soref> ack me
14:32:44 <fjh> ack Josh_Soref
14:32:46 <Zakim> Josh_Soref, you wanted to note that flat file systems do not scale well and to stick around and hold my 
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14:35:48 <fjh> josh_soref: if you are on a trip and take thousands of photos in three different cities, you want to be able to organize by city, a flat file system simply does not work
14:36:08 <fjh> josh_soref: tags may be like file folder, but whatever is done you need to organize and search does not work
14:36:17 <Josh_Soref> Topic: Action Review
14:36:23 <fjh> http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/open
14:36:36 <Josh_Soref> fjh: i'd like to do this before the F2F
14:36:46 <Josh_Soref> ... i think darobin had an action to ask the Web Intents
14:36:59 <Josh_Soref> Josh_Soref: i don't think we sent an email to the list
14:37:05 <Josh_Soref> jhawkins: no, that's for me to do, i'll do that today
14:37:17 <Josh_Soref> fjh: CfC for MC update
14:37:44 <Josh_Soref> ... brian isn't on the call
14:37:49 <fjh> ACTION-482?
14:37:49 <trackbot> ACTION-482 -- Josh Soref to contacts find() may be replaced with Intents -- due 2011-11-11 -- OPEN
14:37:49 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/482
14:37:51 <Josh_Soref> ... Josh_Soref you have a bunch with contacts
14:37:59 <fjh> ACTION-482?
14:37:59 <trackbot> ACTION-482 -- Josh Soref to contacts find() may be replaced with Intents -- due 2011-11-11 -- OPEN
14:37:59 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/482
14:38:07 <fjh> ACTION-483?
14:38:07 <trackbot> ACTION-483 -- Josh Soref to send proposal to list for how Contacts will move forward -- due 2011-11-11 -- OPEN
14:38:07 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/483
14:38:24 <Josh_Soref> ACTION-482: this can be replaced by intents
14:38:24 <trackbot> ACTION-482 Contacts find() may be replaced with Intents notes added
14:38:31 <Josh_Soref> close ACTION-482
14:38:31 <trackbot> ACTION-482 Contacts find() may be replaced with Intents closed
14:40:20 <Josh_Soref> Josh_Soref: i worked with greg at DAP-Shenzhen on the intents api
14:40:31 <Josh_Soref> ... i thought we sent it out
14:40:52 <Josh_Soref> ... in which case the resolution is to point to the email
14:40:57 <Josh_Soref> fjh: can we get it done before the F2f?
14:41:02 <Josh_Soref> jhawkins: we can do that
14:41:24 <fjh> ACTION-491?
14:41:24 <trackbot> ACTION-491 -- Josh Soref to investigate using intents for Contacts, perhaps Calendar and Thermometer -- due 2011-11-30 -- OPEN
14:41:24 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/491
14:41:39 <Josh_Soref> fjh: it sounds the same
14:41:57 <Josh_Soref> Josh_Soref: the general consensus is to do calendar after contacts
14:42:12 <Josh_Soref> ACTION-491: Calendar happens after Contacts - because it's harder
14:42:12 <trackbot> ACTION-491 Investigate using intents for Contacts, perhaps Calendar and Thermometer notes added
14:42:32 <Josh_Soref> ACTION-491: thermometer someone could throw up a demo intent
14:42:33 <trackbot> ACTION-491 Investigate using intents for Contacts, perhaps Calendar and Thermometer notes added
14:42:41 <Josh_Soref> close ACTION-491
14:42:41 <trackbot> ACTION-491 Investigate using intents for Contacts, perhaps Calendar and Thermometer closed
14:43:22 <Josh_Soref> fjh: Josh_Soref i thought you sent an example to the list about that
14:43:35 <Josh_Soref> Josh_Soref: i think i talked it through in Shenzhen
14:44:01 <fjh> fjh: should we be creating a thermometer API
14:44:12 <fjh> josh_soref: no need for an actual spec for this one
14:44:17 <Josh_Soref> Josh_Soref: there's a question of whether everything should have a w3c spec
14:44:27 <Josh_Soref> ... this is one i think that can just be on web intents
14:44:27 <fjh> ACTION-489?
14:44:27 <trackbot> ACTION-489 -- Robin Berjon to prepare Requirements, SysInfo, Messaging, Gallery for shelving (wait for text from Deepanshu for Reqs) -- due 2011-11-23 -- OPEN
14:44:31 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/489
14:44:33 <Josh_Soref> ... .org
14:44:39 <Zakim> -Dzung_Tran
14:44:42 <Josh_Soref> fjh: i think that the shelving was all done
14:44:48 <Josh_Soref> AnssiK: i think i've done all of those
14:44:55 <fjh> ACTION-489: shelving done
14:44:55 <trackbot> ACTION-489 Prepare Requirements, SysInfo, Messaging, Gallery for shelving (wait for text from Deepanshu for Reqs) notes added
14:45:00 <fjh> ACTION-489 closed
14:45:00 <trackbot> ACTION-489 Prepare Requirements, SysInfo, Messaging, Gallery for shelving (wait for text from Deepanshu for Reqs) closed
14:45:26 <Josh_Soref> fjh: i don't know what UPnP is up to
14:45:31 <Josh_Soref> ... Cathy ?
14:45:36 <Josh_Soref> ... do we want to put it on the Agenda
14:45:46 <Josh_Soref> Cathy: i think it depends on whether Claes and richt would be there
14:45:53 <Josh_Soref> fjh: Claes said he'd call in
14:46:01 <Clarke> +1 for UPnP discussion
14:46:01 <Josh_Soref> jhawkins: i'd be interested in talking about it
14:46:11 <Josh_Soref> fjh: i think we should slot it in the agenda
14:46:21 <fjh> ACTION-516?
14:46:21 <trackbot> ACTION-516 -- Josh Soref to propose Security Considerations section on SSL for Intents sepc -- due 2012-03-27 -- OPEN
14:46:21 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/516
14:47:18 <Josh_Soref> Josh_Soref: i should have sent an email then
14:47:28 <Josh_Soref> ... it's basically a simple email
14:48:10 <fjh> action: fjh to check with Josh Soref on actions next week
14:48:10 <trackbot> Created ACTION-543 - Check with Josh Soref on actions next week [on Frederick Hirsch - due 2012-06-20].
14:48:32 <fjh> ACTION-519?
14:48:32 <trackbot> ACTION-519 -- Claes Nilsson to add a proposal for hidden disposition. -- due 2012-03-28 -- OPEN
14:48:32 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/519
14:48:51 <Josh_Soref> Josh_Soref: did we finish that off?
14:49:06 <Josh_Soref> jhawkins: we have some ideas, we might be able to take this on
14:49:41 <fjh> ACTION-591: jhawkins - we have some ideas on this topic
14:49:41 <trackbot> Sorry... adding notes to ACTION-591 failed, please let sysreq know about it
14:50:09 <fjh> ACTION-519: member:jhawkins - we have some ideas on this topic
14:50:09 <trackbot> ACTION-519 Add a proposal for hidden disposition. notes added
14:50:37 <fjh> ACTION-531?
14:50:37 <trackbot> ACTION-531 -- Robin Berjon to draft DAP charter version 3 -- due 2012-03-29 -- OPEN
14:50:37 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/531
14:50:41 <fjh> ACTION-531 closed
14:50:41 <trackbot> ACTION-531 Draft DAP charter version 3 closed
14:51:26 <Josh_Soref> Topic: AOB
14:51:32 <fjh> q?
14:51:33 <Josh_Soref> fjh: anything i forgot?
14:52:03 <Josh_Soref> Josh_Soref: i'll send out minutes tomorrow
14:52:29 <Josh_Soref> fjh: if you have topics for the F2F Agenda, please feel free to add them to the wiki
14:52:42 <Josh_Soref> ... darobin and i will shuffle things around anyway
14:52:56 <Josh_Soref> ... if you have questions about logistics, please let me know
14:53:07 <Josh_Soref> ... please complete the questionaire attending or not
14:53:12 <Josh_Soref> Adjourned
14:53:13 <Zakim> -Clarke
14:53:14 <Zakim> -jhawkins
14:53:15 <Zakim> -dcheng3
14:53:17 <Josh_Soref> trackbot, end meeting
14:53:17 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
14:53:17 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been fjh, +1.310.310.aaaa, +49.173.537.aabb, dcheng3, lgombos, AnssiK, jhawkins, +46.1.07.15.aacc, +1.503.542.aadd, niklas, +1.289.261.aaee,
14:53:20 <Zakim> ... Josh_Soref, Clarke, +1.781.266.aaff, Cathy, Dzung_Tran
14:53:20 <Zakim> -Cathy
14:53:20 <Zakim> -AnssiK
14:53:20 <Zakim> -lgombos
14:53:22 <Zakim> -niklas
14:53:22 <Zakim> -fjh
14:53:25 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
14:53:25 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/06/13-dap-minutes.html trackbot
14:53:26 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
14:53:26 <RRSAgent> I see 4 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2012/06/13-dap-actions.rdf :
14:53:26 <RRSAgent> ACTION: jhawkins to send URL for gallery chrome extension to the list [1]
14:53:26 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/06/13-dap-irc#T14-20-23
14:53:26 <RRSAgent> ACTION: fjh to start CfC for FPWD of proximity [2]
14:53:26 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/06/13-dap-irc#T14-29-30
14:53:26 <RRSAgent> ACTION: fjh to review Web Application Privacy Best Practices, complete ACTION-470, put out CfC to publish as Note [3]
14:53:26 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/06/13-dap-irc#T14-32-02
14:53:26 <RRSAgent> ACTION: fjh to check with Josh Soref on actions next week [4]
14:53:26 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/06/13-dap-irc#T14-48-10