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16:01:24 <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
16:01:24 <trackbot> Date: 07 June 2012
16:01:35 <Zakim> +[GVoice]
16:01:44 <dsinger> zakim, [apple] has dsinger
16:01:44 <Zakim> +dsinger; got it
16:01:48 <paulc> zakim, [Microsoft] has paulc
16:01:48 <Zakim> +paulc; got it
16:01:50 <Zakim> +[Microsoft.a]
16:01:54 <ddorwin> zakim, [GVoice] is me
16:01:54 <Zakim> +ddorwin; got it
16:02:07 <Zakim> +Sam
16:02:16 <rubys> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2012AprJun/0026.html
16:02:27 <Zakim> +[Microsoft.aa]
16:02:30 <frankolivier> frankolivier has joined #html-wg
16:02:42 <jaymunro> zakim, [microsoft] is me
16:02:42 <Zakim> +jaymunro; got it
16:03:18 <glenn> ScribeNick: glenn
16:03:18 <Zakim> +eliot
16:03:24 <glenn> Chair: Sam
16:03:40 <glenn> Topic: ACTION items due by Thursday, June 7
16:04:02 <glenn> ACTION-217: Create an updated Caret ring focus (Rich, Ted, Frank)
16:04:02 <trackbot> ACTION-217 Create an updated Caret ring focus (Rich, Ted, Frank) ISSUE-201 CP notes added
16:04:03 <Zakim> +KevinStreeter
16:04:04 <rubys> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jun/0016.html
16:04:31 <dsinger> issue-201?
16:04:31 <trackbot> ISSUE-201 -- Provide canvas location and hit testing capability to fallback content -- open
16:04:31 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/201
16:04:33 <glenn> rubys: any updates?
16:04:45 <glenn> paulc: some discussion on TF happened
16:04:51 <glenn> ... cover under TF reporrt
16:04:55 <Zakim> +??P21
16:04:57 <glenn> ACTION-219?
16:04:57 <trackbot> ACTION-219 -- Edward O'Connor to review Michael Cooper's CP for ISSUE-199a -- due 2012-06-07 -- OPEN
16:04:57 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/219
16:05:07 <KevinStreeter> KevinStreeter has joined #html-wg
16:05:26 <glenn> paulc: ted asked for extension
16:05:50 <yang> yang has joined #html-wg
16:05:55 <glenn> ... look undeer announced list
16:06:01 <glenn> s/undeer/under/
16:06:11 <rubys> action-219 due 14 June
16:06:11 <trackbot> ACTION-219 Review Michael Cooper's CP for ISSUE-199a due date now 14 June
16:06:17 <glenn> ACTION-219: extend one week to 14th
16:06:17 <trackbot> ACTION-219 Review Michael Cooper's CP for ISSUE-199a notes added
16:06:21 <paulc> Ted's request: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2012AprJun/0027.html
16:06:34 <glenn> Topic: New Issues this Week
16:06:36 <glenn> none
16:06:37 <MikeSmith> Zakim, call Mike
16:06:37 <Zakim> ok, MikeSmith; the call is being made
16:06:39 <Zakim> +Mike
16:06:46 <glenn> Topic: Items Closed last Week
16:06:47 <glenn> none
16:06:49 <paulc> zakim, who is on the phone?
16:06:49 <Zakim> On the phone I see Radhika_Roy, [Apple], ??P3, +25686aaaa, jaymunro, ddorwin, [Microsoft.a], Sam, [Microsoft.aa], eliot, KevinStreeter, ??P21, Mike
16:06:51 <Zakim> jaymunro has paulc
16:06:51 <Zakim> [Apple] has dsinger
16:06:56 <glenn> Topic: Items Closing Next Week
16:07:10 <glenn> ISSUE-205: text-editing-canvas, Survey closes Jun 7
16:07:10 <trackbot> ISSUE-205 Define what author guidance and/or methods should be provided to those that wish to create accessible text editors using canvas as a rendering surface. notes added
16:07:30 <glenn> Topic: Items Closing Next Week
16:07:36 <glenn> ISSUE-203: media-descriptions, Write Alternate or Counter-Proposal
16:07:36 <glenn>     closes Jun 10
16:07:36 <trackbot> ISSUE-203 All Media Elements should have the ability to have both short and longer textual descriptions associated to the element notes added
16:07:46 <Zakim> +Julian_Reschke
16:07:51 <glenn> Topic:  New Calls this week
16:07:53 <glenn> none
16:07:56 <paulc> The Huawei rep is probably one of the ??P items in the list of phone participants.
16:08:01 <glenn> Topic: New Surveys This Week
16:08:02 <Zakim> +??P17
16:08:04 <glenn> none
16:08:07 <Zakim> + +1.613.491.aabb
16:08:14 <Clarke> zakim, ??P17 is me
16:08:14 <Zakim> +Clarke; got it
16:08:25 <glenn> Topic: Decisions This Week
16:08:28 <glenn> none
16:08:37 <paulc> Could the Huawei rep please contact paulc at pcotton@microsoft.com to discuss the WG phone mechanics.
16:08:37 <glenn> Topic: Task Force Reports
16:08:58 <rubys> Here what I would report if I were to attend the meeting
16:08:58 <rubys> * We meet as planned on June 5th 2012 (meeting notes ->
16:08:58 <rubys>   http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-testsuite/2012Jun/0004.html)
16:08:58 <rubys> * Spring Cleaning Part #1 Completed (updated 353 tests to use /resources as
16:08:58 <rubys>   the vroot for testharness.js)
16:08:58 <rubys> * Expecting a new test submission/contribution from Mathias Bynens
16:09:01 <rubys> * David Zbarsky updated the Opera Microdata tests with feedback from Simon
16:09:02 <rubys>   Peters
16:09:05 <glenn> rubys: Testing TF
16:09:26 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
16:09:30 <glenn> rubys: discussion?
16:09:46 <glenn> rubys: A11Y TF
16:10:03 <glenn> mike: janina usually does, but can't make today's call
16:10:23 <glenn> ... updated CP for ISSUE-31c, meta generator exception
16:10:33 <glenn> ... will be provided by Friday
16:10:44 <glenn> ... also further discussion on ISSUE-194
16:10:56 <glenn> ... proposal around transcript element
16:11:13 <glenn> ... progress made on agreement, but further discussion needed
16:11:22 <MikeSmith> issue-199?
16:11:22 <trackbot> ISSUE-199 -- Define complete processing requirements for ARIA attributes -- open
16:11:22 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/199
16:11:23 <glenn> ... ISSUE-199 is anothere issue
16:11:35 <glenn> s/anothere/another/
16:11:47 <glenn> mike: janina needs to discuss with ted
16:12:01 <glenn> s/mike/MikeSmith/g
16:12:02 <MikeSmith> http://www.w3.org/2012/06/07-html-a11y-minutes.html
16:12:26 <glenn> rubys: what is next step on ISSUE-194?
16:12:54 <glenn> MikeSmith: expecting to have TF consensus call, but didn't happen
16:13:04 <glenn> ... due to lack of agreement on CP
16:13:25 <glenn> ... JF, Sylvia, Eric, and Ted needed further discussion
16:13:31 <glenn> rubys: questions?
16:13:41 <glenn> Topic: Other Business
16:13:46 <glenn> ISSUE-201?
16:13:46 <trackbot> ISSUE-201 -- Provide canvas location and hit testing capability to fallback content -- open
16:13:46 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/201
16:14:00 <glenn> rubys: note from frank about aligning proposals
16:14:05 <Zakim> +Aaron
16:14:15 <glenn> s/frank/frnkolivier/
16:14:19 <rubys> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jun/0020.html
16:14:28 <glenn> s/frnkolivier/frankolivier/
16:14:39 <glenn> frankolivier: awaiting feedback from Ted
16:15:04 <glenn> paulc: chairs will follow up, but probably not until next Monday after mjs returns
16:15:13 <glenn> ... will try to push along
16:15:23 <glenn> ISSUE-204?
16:15:23 <trackbot> ISSUE-204 -- Exempt ARIA attributes from the rule that prohibits reference to hidden elements -- open
16:15:23 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/204
16:15:49 <glenn> rubys: got indication TF will object to any/all ?
16:16:05 <rubys> s/all ?/all SHALLS/
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16:16:24 <glenn> rubys: ready for survey, but not sure
16:16:55 <glenn> ... would like indication that a consensus may be obtained first
16:17:11 <glenn> ... haven't heard back from janina yet
16:17:18 <glenn> ... wants to hear something back soon
16:17:23 <glenn> [who's talking?]
16:17:27 <rubys> here's what I posted: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jun/0021.html
16:17:37 <glenn> cynthia: asks mike to follow up
16:18:02 <glenn> rubys: media teleconference times
16:18:18 <glenn> paulc: tuesday 1500Z looks like best time
16:18:28 <adrianba> adrianba has joined #html-wg
16:18:35 <glenn> ... will work with editors to create agenda for next week's first meeting
16:18:50 <glenn> ... mikesmith has worked on admin tasks, public-html-media@w3.org is new ML
16:18:59 <glenn> ... people will need to subscribe
16:19:03 <Zakim> +[Microsoft.aaa]
16:19:07 <glenn> ... also a tracker assigned to telecon slot
16:19:16 <adrianba> zakim, [Microsoft.aaa] is me
16:19:16 <Zakim> +adrianba; got it
16:19:52 <glenn> ... changed bugzilla linkage for components prior used, now linked to new public-html-media ML
16:20:03 <glenn> ... will send out email announcing agenda tomorrow
16:20:39 <glenn> rubys: AOB?
16:20:45 <glenn> ... ISSUE-189?
16:20:48 <rubys> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jun/0021.html
16:20:52 <glenn> ISSUE-189?
16:20:52 <trackbot> ISSUE-189 -- Prefix convention needs to be coordinated with IETF -- open
16:20:52 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/189
16:20:54 <eliot> eliot has joined #html-wg
16:21:09 <Julian> q+
16:21:10 <glenn> ... needs follow up from ted, otherwise will treat as withdrawn
16:21:18 <rubys> ack next
16:21:41 <glenn> julian: this action went to chair of A11Y WG, so maybe feedback will arrive
16:22:01 <glenn> rubys: ted's CP says editor can do what he wants, but rubys said needs more specificity
16:22:25 <glenn> julian: will look at CP
16:22:32 <dsinger> zakim, who is makign noise?
16:22:32 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, dsinger.
16:22:47 <dsinger> zakim, who is making noise?
16:22:59 <Zakim> dsinger, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Sam (29%), ??P21 (66%)
16:23:17 <glenn> rubys: any other other business?
16:23:26 <glenn> Topic: Scribe for Next Meeting
16:23:45 <glenn> rubys: will assign at meeting time
16:23:51 <Zakim> -Radhika_Roy
16:23:51 <glenn> Topic: Adjournment
16:23:53 <glenn> adjourned
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16:23:55 <Zakim> -[Apple]
16:23:56 <Zakim> -Clarke
16:23:57 <Zakim> -Mike
16:23:57 <Zakim> -Julian_Reschke
16:23:58 <Zakim> - +25686aaaa
16:23:58 <Zakim> -Aaron
16:24:00 <Zakim> -KevinStreeter
16:24:00 <Zakim> - +1.613.491.aabb
16:24:01 <Zakim> -Sam
16:24:04 <Zakim> -[Microsoft.aa]
16:24:05 <Zakim> -??P21
16:24:07 <Zakim> -adrianba
16:24:09 <Zakim> -ddorwin
16:24:11 <Zakim> -eliot
16:24:11 <glenn> rrsagent, draft minutes
16:24:11 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/06/07-html-wg-minutes.html glenn
16:24:13 <Zakim> -[Microsoft]
16:24:52 <glenn> trackbot, end meeting
16:24:52 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
16:24:52 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been Radhika_Roy, +25686aaaa, dsinger, paulc, ddorwin, Sam, jaymunro, eliot, KevinStreeter, Mike, Julian_Reschke, +1.613.491.aabb, Clarke,
16:24:56 <Zakim> ... [Microsoft], Aaron, adrianba
16:25:00 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
16:25:00 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/06/07-html-wg-minutes.html trackbot
16:25:01 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
16:25:01 <RRSAgent> I see no action items