IRC log of wai-wcag on 2012-05-31

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logging to http://www.w3.org/2012/05/31-wai-wcag-irc
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RRSAgent, make logs public
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Zakim, this will be WAI_WCAG
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ok, trackbot; I see WAI_WCAG()4:00PM scheduled to start in 3 minutes
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Meeting: Web Content Accessibility Guidelines Working Group Teleconference
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Date: 31 May 2012
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agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2012AprJun/0080.html
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chair: Loretta_Guarino_Reid
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WAI_WCAG()4:00PM has now started
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+Bruce_Bailey
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+[Microsoft]
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-[Microsoft]
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regrets: Jon_Gunderson, Kathy_Wahlbin
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+David_MacDonald
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+ +1.206.544.aaaa
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+Cooper
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+[Microsoft]
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+??P8
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zakim, aaaa is Robin_Tuttle
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+Robin_Tuttle; got it
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zakim, Microsoft is Cherie_Eckholm
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+Cherie_Eckholm; got it
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zakim, ??P8 is Loic_Martinez
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+Loic_Martinez; got it
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+Andrew_Kirkpatrick
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+Judy
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zakim, Loic is Loïc_Martínez
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+Loïc_Martínez; got it
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zakim, who's on the phone?
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On the phone I see Bruce_Bailey (muted), David_MacDonald, Robin_Tuttle, Cooper, Cherie_Eckholm, Loïc_Martínez, Andrew_Kirkpatrick, Marc_Johlic, Judy
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+James_Nurthen
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-Bruce_Bailey
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+[Microsoft]
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zakim, Microsoft is Alex_Li
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+Alex_Li; got it
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+Bruce_Bailey
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scribe: AWK
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+??P21
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zakim, ??P21 is adam_solomon
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+adam_solomon; got it
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Q+
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q-
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-Bruce_Bailey
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+Bruce_Bailey
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The official name and number is ISO/IEC DIS 40500 Information technology -- W3C Web Content Accessibility Guidelines (WCAG) 2.0
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ack b
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-Judy
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TOPIC: LC-2586 : Failure to choose appropriate table row and column headings
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Survey: https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20120531misc/results
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-Alex_Li
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RESOLUTION: Accept as proposed
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RESOLUTION: Accept LC-2614 and LC-2615 as proposed by unanimous consent
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TOPIC: LC-2613 : Examples 5 and 6 should be deleted
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http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WCAG20-TECHS/PDF3.html
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-Bruce_Bailey
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zakim, aabb is Moe_Kraft
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+Moe_Kraft; got it
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s/Moe Kraft joined from 978 562-2218//
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https://www.w3.org/2006/02/lc-comments-tracker/35422/NOTE-WCAG20-TECHS-20120103/2613
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-Bruce_Bailey
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+Bruce_Bailey
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ACTION: akirkpat2 and Cherie to work on proposal for https://www.w3.org/2006/02/lc-comments-tracker/35422/NOTE-WCAG20-TECHS-20120103/2613
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Created ACTION-173 - And Cherie to work on proposal for https://www.w3.org/2006/02/lc-comments-tracker/35422/NOTE-WCAG20-TECHS-20120103/2613 [on Andrew Kirkpatrick - due 2012-06-07].
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-adam_solomon
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q+
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scribe: MichaelC
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ack g
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leave open
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issue was raised that tools referenced in test procedures may not provide accurate accessibility support - e.g., may change reading order, may not expose AAPI, etc.
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toipc: LC-2616 : Why is "navigation" confused with "input" https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20120531misc/results#x2616
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RESOLUTION: accept as amended
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PDF/UA - WCAG2 mapping review: Andrew,Bruce,Loretta,Cherie, David?
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action: awk to work with Bruce, Loretta, Cherie, David to review PDF/UA to WCAG2 mapping
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Created ACTION-174 - Work with Bruce, Loretta, Cherie, David to review PDF/UA to WCAG2 mapping [on Andrew Kirkpatrick - due 2012-06-07].
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topic: LC-2620 : Reference to the title attribute on a technique that deals with abbr https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20120531misc/results#x2620
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http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/2011/WD-UNDERSTANDING-WCAG20-20110310/meaning-supplements.html
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Michael, design was to accept as proposed.
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RESOLUTION: accept as proposed
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topic: LC-2621 : The permissible uses of heading levels and F43 https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20120531misc/results#x2621
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RESOLUTION: accept as amended
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s/accept as proposed/accept as amended/
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rrsagent, make minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/05/31-wai-wcag-minutes.html MichaelC
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-Andrew_Kirkpatrick
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zakim, list attendees
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As of this point the attendees have been Bruce_Bailey, David_MacDonald, +1.206.544.aaaa, Cooper, Robin_Tuttle, Cherie_Eckholm, Loic_Martinez, Andrew_Kirkpatrick, Marc_Johlic, Judy,
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... Loïc_Martínez, James_Nurthen, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Alex_Li, adam_solomon, Gregg_Vanderheiden, +1.978.562.aabb, Moe_Kraft
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q+
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rrsagent, make minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/05/31-wai-wcag-minutes.html MichaelC
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WCAG is not the first W3C recommendation sent to ISO: http://www.iso.org/iso/pressrelease.htm?refid=Ref1459
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-Robin_Tuttle
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-Cooper
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Yes
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-James_Nurthen
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-Gregg_Vanderheiden
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-Bruce_Bailey
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-Moe_Kraft
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-Loretta_Guarino_Reid
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-Cherie_Eckholm
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-David_MacDonald
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-Marc_Johlic
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-Loïc_Martínez
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WAI_WCAG()4:00PM has ended
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Attendees were Bruce_Bailey, David_MacDonald, +1.206.544.aaaa, Cooper, Robin_Tuttle, Cherie_Eckholm, Loic_Martinez, Andrew_Kirkpatrick, Marc_Johlic, Judy, Loïc_Martínez,
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... James_Nurthen, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Alex_Li, adam_solomon, Gregg_Vanderheiden, +1.978.562.aabb, Moe_Kraft
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looks like Zakim just kicked everyone off?
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-??P2
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WAI_WCAG()4:00PM has ended
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Attendees were