IRC log of rd on 2012-05-30

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logging to http://www.w3.org/2012/05/30-rd-irc
13:30:43 [trackbot]
RRSAgent, make logs world
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Zakim, this will be 7394
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ok, trackbot; I see WAI_RDWG()9:30AM scheduled to start now
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Meeting: Research and Development Working Group Teleconference
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Date: 30 May 2012
13:31:22 [shawn]
zakim, who is on the phone?
13:31:22 [Zakim]
WAI_RDWG()9:30AM has not yet started, shawn
13:31:23 [peter]
Zakim, who
13:31:24 [Zakim]
On IRC I see RRSAgent, shawn, peter, nonge, vivienne, shadi, trackbot
13:31:24 [Zakim]
I don't understand 'who', peter
13:31:34 [shawn]
zakim, mute me
13:31:34 [Zakim]
sorry, shawn, I don't know what conference this is
13:31:39 [shawn]
zakim, thsi is rdwg
13:31:39 [Zakim]
sorry, shawn, I do not recognize a party named 'thsi'
13:31:40 [vivienne]
zakim, mute me
13:31:41 [Zakim]
sorry, vivienne, I don't know what conference this is
13:31:41 [peter]
Zakim, mute me
13:31:41 [Zakim]
sorry, peter, I don't know what conference this is
13:31:43 [shawn]
zakim, this is rdwg
13:31:43 [Zakim]
ok, shawn; that matches WAI_RDWG()9:30AM
13:31:51 [shawn]
zakim, who is on the phone?
13:31:51 [Zakim]
On the phone I see ??P10, ??P11, Shawn
13:32:02 [shawn]
zakim, mute me
13:32:02 [Zakim]
Shawn should now be muted
13:32:05 [vivienne]
zakim, ??P11 is me
13:32:05 [Zakim]
+vivienne; got it
13:32:19 [vivienne]
zakim, ??P10 is peter
13:32:19 [Zakim]
+peter; got it
13:32:30 [shawn]
zakim, mute peter
13:32:30 [Zakim]
peter should now be muted
13:32:31 [vivienne]
Peter, I think I got that right
13:32:32 [peter]
zakim, mute me
13:32:32 [Zakim]
peter was already muted, peter
13:32:35 [Zakim]
+Shadi
13:32:36 [peter]
am I muted?
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13:32:50 [vivienne]
zakim, mute me
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vivienne should now be muted
13:32:53 [sharper]
zakim, agenda?
13:32:53 [Zakim]
I see nothing on the agenda
13:32:55 [peter]
zakime, unmute me
13:33:02 [peter]
zakim, unmute me
13:33:02 [Zakim]
peter should no longer be muted
13:33:08 [sharper]
Chair: Harper_Simon
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Agenda+ Welcome & Logistics (Regrets, Agenda Requests, Comments) [sharper]
13:33:09 [sharper]
Agenda+ Mobile Topic Update [sharper]
13:33:09 [sharper]
Agenda+ Current W3C Note Status http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-rd/2012May/0052.html [sharper]
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Agenda+ Editors for 'Easy to Read' http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-rd/2012May/0053.html [sharper]
13:33:10 [sharper]
Agenda+ 'Text Customization' WAI GC Report/Comments [sharper]
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Agenda+ 'Text Customization' - Online Symposia | Pre-Call - http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/wiki/Topic_3_pre-call [shawn]
13:33:13 [sharper]
Agenda+ Timelines / Schedule to 30th June 2013 [sharper]
13:33:14 [peter]
zakim, mute me
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peter should now be muted
13:33:15 [sharper]
Agenda+ Issues and Actions (Standing Item): https://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/tracker/ [sharper]
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Agenda+ Any Other Business (Standing Item) [sharper]
13:33:26 [sharper]
zakim, please clear the agenda
13:33:26 [Zakim]
agenda cleared
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trackbot, start meeting
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RRSAgent, make logs world
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Zakim, this will be 7394
13:33:37 [Zakim]
ok, trackbot; I see WAI_RDWG()9:30AM scheduled to start 3 minutes ago
13:33:38 [trackbot]
Meeting: Research and Development Working Group Teleconference
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Date: 30 May 2012
13:33:44 [sharper]
Chair: Harper_Simon
13:33:44 [sharper]
Agenda+ Welcome & Logistics (Regrets, Agenda Requests, Comments) [sharper]
13:33:44 [sharper]
Agenda+ Mobile Topic Update [sharper]
13:33:45 [sharper]
Agenda+ Current W3C Note Status http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-rd/2012May/0052.html [sharper]
13:33:45 [sharper]
Agenda+ Editors for 'Easy to Read' http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-rd/2012May/0053.html [sharper]
13:33:45 [sharper]
Agenda+ 'Text Customization' WAI GC Report/Comments [sharper]
13:33:46 [sharper]
Agenda+ 'Text Customization' - Online Symposia | Pre-Call - http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/wiki/Topic_3_pre-call [shawn]
13:33:48 [sharper]
Agenda+ Timelines / Schedule to 30th June 2013 [sharper]
13:33:50 [sharper]
Agenda+ Issues and Actions (Standing Item): https://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/tracker/ [sharper]
13:33:52 [sharper]
Agenda+ Any Other Business (Standing Item) [sharper]
13:33:54 [sharper]
zakim, take up item 1
13:33:54 [Zakim]
agendum 1. "Welcome & Logistics (Regrets, Agenda Requests, Comments)" taken up [from sharper]
13:34:07 [sharper]
regrets+ Yesilada_Yeliz
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regrets+ Brajnik_Giorgio
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regrets+ Mohamad_Yehya
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regrets+ Miesenberge_Klaus
13:34:46 [shawn]
zakim, who is noisy?
13:34:46 [Zakim]
sorry, shawn, I don't know what conference this is
13:34:46 [sharper]
rrsagent, make logs public
13:34:47 [sharper]
rrsagent, draft minutes
13:34:47 [RRSAgent]
I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/05/30-rd-minutes.html sharper
13:34:54 [shawn]
zakim, this is rdwg
13:34:54 [Zakim]
ok, shawn; that matches WAI_RDWG()9:30AM
13:34:59 [sharper]
zakim, save agenda
13:35:02 [shawn]
zakim, who is on the phone?
13:35:56 [shawn]
zakim, are you there?
13:36:16 [shawn]
ack me
13:36:50 [markel]
test
13:36:58 [shawn]
zakim, unmute me
13:37:14 [Zakim]
ok, sharper, the agenda has been written to http://www.w3.org/2012/05/30-rd-agenda.rdf
13:37:16 [Zakim]
On the phone I see peter (muted), vivienne (muted), Shawn (muted), Shadi, ??P14
13:37:16 [Zakim]
I don't understand your question, shawn.
13:37:16 [Zakim]
Shawn should no longer be muted
13:37:16 [Zakim]
+??P15
13:37:47 [shadi]
zakim, ??p14 is Markel
13:37:48 [Zakim]
+Markel; got it
13:37:51 [sharper]
zakim, ??P15 is sharper
13:37:51 [Zakim]
+sharper; got it
13:37:58 [shadi]
scribe: Shadi
13:38:13 [peter]
zakim, mute me
13:38:13 [Zakim]
peter was already muted, peter
13:38:13 [peter]
Can you here music and people chatting?
13:38:13 [peter]
(if so it's me)
13:38:21 [peter]
great!
13:38:47 [markel]
:-)
13:39:07 [markel]
yes
13:39:07 [peter]
yup
13:39:11 [vivienne]
I can hear you Shadi
13:39:32 [shadi]
zakim, mute me
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Shadi should now be muted
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chair: Simon
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zakim, take up agendum 2
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13:40:11 [shawn]
zakim, mute me
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agendum 2. "Mobile Topic Update" taken up [from sharper]
13:40:29 [Zakim]
Shawn was already muted, shawn
13:40:35 [shadi]
SH: all reviewers should be able to see all the reviews
13:40:48 [shadi]
...sending email out to the scientific committee
13:40:49 [Zakim]
+??P18
13:40:59 [shadi]
...to discuss what is to be accepted vs rejected
13:41:03 [christos]
zakim, ??P18 is me
13:41:03 [Zakim]
+christos; got it
13:41:11 [shadi]
...all probably acceptable except for one
13:41:20 [shadi]
...that does not really relate to mobile as such
13:41:35 [shadi]
...expecting choice by the "advocates"
13:41:50 [shadi]
q+ to ask who the advocates are ... are these the scientific committee?
13:42:10 [shadi]
...moving along and should have comments from the scientific committee by next week
13:42:22 [christos]
zakim, mute me
13:42:22 [Zakim]
christos should now be muted
13:42:27 [shadi]
...also going to ask the scientific committee to provide comments or abstracts
13:42:36 [peter]
ack me
13:43:16 [shadi]
PT: anything we need to do?
13:43:26 [markel]
*very noisy*
13:43:30 [shadi]
SH: good idea to ask scientific committee for abstracts?
13:43:34 [peter]
zakim, mute me
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peter should now be muted
13:43:37 [shadi]
q?
13:43:42 [shadi]
ack me
13:43:43 [Zakim]
shadi, you wanted to ask who the advocates are ... are these the scientific committee?
13:43:48 [vivienne]
sounds fine to me, but I won't be able to at this time
13:44:11 [shadi]
SAZ: who are the "advocates"?
13:44:17 [shadi]
SH: the editors
13:44:28 [shadi]
...who are also the symposium chairs
13:45:35 [shadi]
SAZ: good idea to get input from the scientific committee
13:45:43 [shadi]
...but wondering what we will do with the input
13:45:52 [shadi]
...expectation that we have to include them?
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...or can we draw from these?
13:46:24 [shadi]
SH: ask them to write paragraphs that we can include in the sorrounding text
13:46:25 [shadi]
q+
13:46:31 [shadi]
...what do people think?
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ack me
13:47:38 [markel]
q+
13:47:40 [shadi]
SAZ: maybe pose specific questions to the scientific committee
13:47:52 [shadi]
...like a mini questionnaire
13:48:06 [shadi]
...but make sure no expectation that we will publish as-is
13:48:13 [shadi]
...rather use as a resource
13:48:30 [shadi]
SH: concerned about timing
13:48:34 [markel]
q-
13:48:38 [shadi]
...rather open wording
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q+
13:49:02 [shadi]
...only 25 days left
13:49:19 [shawn]
Dates from http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/wiki/Mobile_Topic_Timeline announcement of program 4 June; publication of accepted papers and registration opens 11 June
13:49:22 [shadi]
ack me
13:49:24 [vivienne]
who is on the scientific committee?
13:50:10 [sharper]
Scientific Committee
13:50:10 [sharper]
Giorgio Brajnik (University of Udine)
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Joshue O Connor (CFIT)
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Vivienne Conway (Edith Cowan University)
13:50:11 [sharper]
Tiago Guerreiro (University of Lisbon)
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Christos Kouroupetroglou (Altec)
13:50:12 [sharper]
Klaus Miesenberge (University of Linz)
13:50:15 [sharper]
Yehya Mohamad (Fraunhofer Gesellschaft)
13:50:17 [shawn]
q+ to say scientific committee could be included in panel
13:50:17 [sharper]
Ignacio MarĂ­n Prendes (CTIC)
13:50:19 [sharper]
Henny Swan (BBC)
13:50:20 [sharper]
Shari Trewin (IBM T.J. Watson Research Center)
13:50:22 [sharper]
Markel Vigo (University of Manchester)
13:50:23 [vivienne]
I like the Shadi's idea of asking the scientific committee for questions for the paper authors and additional questions following the presentations.
13:50:24 [sharper]
Shadi Abou-Zahra (W3C/ERCIM)
13:50:28 [shadi]
SAZ: maybe split what we need now vs after the symposium
13:50:54 [shadi]
...maybe ask the scientific committee for questions to pose to the panelists
13:51:12 [shawn]
q+ to say good to get more input, so nice to have beforehand (not sure why 3 spaces)
13:51:15 [shawn]
ack me
13:51:16 [Zakim]
shawn, you wanted to say scientific committee could be included in panel and to say good to get more input, so nice to have beforehand (not sure why 3 spaces)
13:51:20 [shadi]
...then ask for further input after the symposium
13:51:32 [shadi]
SH: can work out the questions easily
13:51:49 [shadi]
SLH: good to have more input
13:52:01 [shadi]
...encourage scientific committee to provide more input
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...agree not to automatically accept
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...but likely will be useful input
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...good to have as input into the material ahead of time
13:52:48 [shawn]
zakim, mute me
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Shawn should now be muted
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...but also for the material afterwards
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SH: some may want to submit if we ask them to
13:53:34 [shadi]
...will look at getting further input
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q?
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13:53:58 [shadi]
...everyone on the scientific committee will now get an email asking them for action
13:54:10 [shadi]
zakim, take up agendum 3
13:54:10 [Zakim]
agendum 3. "Current W3C Note Status http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-rd/2012May/0052.html" taken up [from sharper]
13:54:31 [shadi]
http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/2011/metrics/note/ED-metrics-20120530.html
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SH: got positive feedback for publication
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...no objections received
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...people happy with changes discussed
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q+
13:55:25 [shadi]
...nobody requested re-review
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13:57:27 [shadi]
SAZ: can only move "how to cite this document" to the "introduction" section
13:57:35 [shadi]
...is that ok fr the editors and the group?
13:57:46 [shadi]
SH: fine by me
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MV: would wish further up but fine by me
13:57:54 [vivienne]
okay with me
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13:58:23 [shawn]
q+
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ack me
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q-
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SLH: don't like it in the introduction
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...conceptually belongs in the abstract or near there
13:59:05 [shadi]
...now there are limitations
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14:01:35 [shadi]
...can look into approval for exception
14:01:48 [shadi]
SAZ: could look into that
14:01:52 [shawn]
q+ to suggest at top one line with pointer to details
14:02:04 [shawn]
ack me
14:02:08 [Zakim]
shawn, you wanted to suggest at top one line with pointer to details
14:02:11 [shadi]
...people happy with this to be at discretion of SAZ and SLH?
14:02:29 [shadi]
SH: happy with that but should be as far above as possible
14:02:53 [shadi]
SLH: what if we have the one line with a hyperlink into the section of the page
14:03:06 [shadi]
SH: happy with whatever you can do within the W3C format
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...just would prefer as far to the top as possible
14:03:53 [shadi]
MV: also happy as long as the bibtex link is prominent
14:04:06 [shawn]
ACTION: Shawn - for Note see about getting citation at the top in doc meta data - maybe one line with link to How to cite this document details lower
14:04:07 [trackbot]
Created ACTION-26 - - for Note see about getting citation at the top in doc meta data - maybe one line with link to How to cite this document details lower [on Shawn Henry - due 2012-06-06].
14:04:27 [shadi]
zakim, take up agendum 4
14:04:27 [Zakim]
agendum 4. "Editors for 'Easy to Read' http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-rd/2012May/0053.html" taken up [from sharper]
14:04:34 [shawn]
agenda?
14:04:48 [shadi]
zakim, close agendum 1
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14:04:59 [Zakim]
agendum 1, Welcome & Logistics (Regrets, Agenda Requests, Comments), closed
14:05:01 [shadi]
SH: asked for editors for Easy-to-Read
14:05:04 [Zakim]
I see 8 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
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2. Mobile Topic Update [from sharper]
14:05:09 [shadi]
...Klaus and Andrea volunteered
14:05:24 [shadi]
...would be fourth topic
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q+
14:05:41 [vivienne]
find with me
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ack me
14:06:16 [shawn]
saz: klaus advocating for context between easy-to-read and text customization
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SAZ: not necessarily fourth topic
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SH: initially wanted them as one topic
14:07:21 [shadi]
...then went back to separated topics
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...but not happy to revert that again
14:07:42 [shadi]
...will talk more with the Coordination Group
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...but last week we resolved to have two topics
14:08:23 [shadi]
...would like to keep until have more information to do otherwise
14:08:25 [shadi]
q+
14:08:35 [shadi]
ack me
14:09:17 [shawn]
saz: agree discomfort with back and forth. think we haven't had deep discussion. unfortunately Klaus have been unavailable.
14:09:19 [shadi]
ack me
14:09:46 [markel]
q+
14:09:58 [shadi]
SH: understand that issue and need the input to make more informed decision
14:10:18 [shadi]
MV: a little confused with all this
14:10:28 [shadi]
...why do we need to talk to the coordination group?
14:10:48 [shadi]
SH: coordination group is useful to inform about what we do
14:10:54 [shadi]
...and consider their input
14:10:56 [shadi]
q+
14:10:59 [shadi]
ack m
14:11:14 [shadi]
...do not control individual decisions
14:11:32 [shadi]
MV: what are the concerns that they may have?
14:11:40 [shadi]
SH: no idea, may not be concerns
14:11:51 [shadi]
...want to make sure i get their input
14:12:37 [shadi]
...want to avoid the issue we had with the mobile call
14:12:58 [shadi]
...just to make sure that everything runs smoothly
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ack me
14:14:32 [shawn]
q+ to note (for the record) that after more discussion, I do see some advantage of combining topics (whereas I was opposed to it before). I see pros & cons for each -- having them as totally separate symposiums versus different tracks in a directly related event
14:15:00 [shawn]
SAZ: ... @@ integrated more RDWG with WAI through Coordination Group ...
14:15:07 [markel]
thanks for the clarifications - I was little bit confused with the role played by the Coordination Group.
14:15:16 [shawn]
... get RDWG strategic group within WAI to help direct and drive some of WAI work
14:16:34 [shadi]
SH: we know what the group has currently decided
14:16:48 [shadi]
...let's now see what Klaus and the Coordination Group have to say
14:16:53 [shawn]
ack me
14:16:53 [Zakim]
shawn, you wanted to note (for the record) that after more discussion, I do see some advantage of combining topics (whereas I was opposed to it before). I see pros & cons for each
14:16:56 [Zakim]
... -- having them as totally separate symposiums versus different tracks in a directly related event
14:17:00 [shadi]
zakim, take up next
14:17:00 [Zakim]
agendum 2. "Mobile Topic Update" taken up [from sharper]
14:17:10 [shadi]
zakim, take up agendum 5
14:17:10 [Zakim]
agendum 5. "'Text Customization' WAI GC Report/Comments" taken up [from sharper]
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14:17:48 [shawn]
http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/wiki/Topic_3_pre-call
14:17:52 [shadi]
zakim, take up agendum 6
14:17:52 [Zakim]
agendum 6. "'Text Customization' - Online Symposia | Pre-Call - http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/wiki/Topic_3_pre-call" taken up [from shawn via sharper]
14:18:14 [shadi]
SLH: after further discussion see that there may be pros to have a common call for text customization and easy-to-read
14:18:35 [shadi]
...have pre-call ready except how it will relate to other related topics
14:19:02 [shadi]
SH: having relationship between them is a reasonable thing to do
14:19:19 [shadi]
...unsure how it should be carried out though
14:19:25 [shadi]
...one or two separare calls
14:19:34 [shadi]
...is it one note or two?
14:19:54 [shadi]
...in favor of your original idea of having two calls but linked
14:20:05 [shawn]
q+ to say can decide WG Note one or two later -- but other decisions need to be made sooner
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14:20:18 [shadi]
...with two notes and two papers
14:20:27 [shadi]
q+
14:20:29 [shawn]
ack me
14:20:29 [Zakim]
shawn, you wanted to say can decide WG Note one or two later -- but other decisions need to be made sooner
14:20:31 [shadi]
ack shawn
14:20:53 [shadi]
SLH: decision about one or two notes could come later
14:21:05 [shadi]
...how to do the call needs to be decided now
14:21:26 [shadi]
...could leave deicision on notes open if calls are in close proximity
14:21:32 [markel]
q+
14:21:39 [shadi]
q- later
14:21:51 [shadi]
ack markel
14:22:06 [shawn]
s/could leave deicision on notes open if calls are in close proximity/could leave deicision on notes open if symposiums are in close proximity timewise/
14:22:32 [shadi]
MV: was initially reluctant about two separate calls
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14:22:46 [shadi]
...then was convinced with the idea of separated calls
14:22:54 [shadi]
...with two notes
14:22:58 [peter]
q+
14:23:05 [shadi]
...would show productivity and usefulness of the group
14:23:07 [shadi]
ack me
14:24:24 [shawn]
saz: one idea - if do it totally separately, then we use both topics 3 & 4 in a related area, then are not working in other areas
14:25:09 [shawn]
markel: ... more output from RDWG if separate
14:25:18 [shadi]
SAZ: have a bottle neck on editors
14:25:28 [shadi]
...spreading out helps recruit editors
14:25:32 [shawn]
ack p
14:25:34 [shadi]
zakim, mute me
14:25:34 [Zakim]
Shadi should now be muted
14:26:26 [shadi]
PT: HTML5 topics becoming interesting
14:26:30 [shawn]
s/ markel: ... more output from RDWG if separate/ /
14:26:38 [shadi]
...could start planning future future topics
14:26:48 [shadi]
SH: good point
14:26:57 [shawn]
zakim, mute peter
14:26:57 [Zakim]
peter should now be muted
14:27:24 [shadi]
...try to get the next 6 topics pre-organized
14:27:37 [shadi]
...developer-led topics would be useful
14:27:54 [shadi]
...may need to recruit editors
14:29:01 [vivienne]
okay, bye now.
14:29:01 [markel]
bye all!!
14:29:07 [vivienne]
- vivienne
14:29:08 [christos]
goodbye...
14:29:09 [sharper]
bye!
14:29:09 [vivienne]
vivienne has left #rd
14:29:14 [Zakim]
-vivienne
14:29:15 [Zakim]
-Shawn
14:29:15 [Zakim]
-Markel
14:29:15 [Zakim]
-Shadi
14:29:21 [Zakim]
-peter
14:29:25 [Zakim]
-sharper
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sharper has left #rd
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-christos
14:30:10 [Zakim]
WAI_RDWG()9:30AM has ended
14:30:10 [Zakim]
Attendees were Shawn, vivienne, peter, Shadi, Markel, sharper, christos
15:21:47 [shadi]
trackbot, end meeting
15:21:47 [trackbot]
Zakim, list attendees
15:21:47 [Zakim]
sorry, trackbot, I don't know what conference this is
15:21:55 [trackbot]
RRSAgent, please draft minutes
15:21:55 [RRSAgent]
I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/05/30-rd-minutes.html trackbot
15:21:56 [trackbot]
RRSAgent, bye
15:21:56 [RRSAgent]
I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2012/05/30-rd-actions.rdf :
15:21:56 [RRSAgent]
ACTION: Shawn - for Note see about getting citation at the top in doc meta data - maybe one line with link to How to cite this document details lower [1]
15:21:56 [RRSAgent]
recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/05/30-rd-irc#T14-04-06