13:56:45 RRSAgent has joined #tt 13:56:45 logging to http://www.w3.org/2012/05/24-tt-irc 13:56:47 RRSAgent, make logs public 13:56:49 Zakim, this will be TTML 13:56:49 ok, trackbot; I see SYMM_TTWG()10:00AM scheduled to start in 4 minutes 13:56:50 Meeting: Timed Text Working Group Teleconference 13:56:50 Date: 24 May 2012 13:57:38 SYMM_TTWG()10:00AM has now started 13:57:45 +??P10 13:58:32 + +44.844.800.aaaa 13:58:37 mike has joined #tt 13:59:11 Chair: sean 13:59:14 Scribe: glenn 13:59:20 Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2012May/0013.html 14:00:28 + +1.858.847.aabb 14:01:07 zakim, aabb is mike 14:01:07 +mike; got it 14:01:38 zakim, aaaa is sean 14:01:38 +sean; got it 14:01:44 -mike 14:01:55 zakim, ??p10 is me 14:01:55 +glenn; got it 14:02:01 ack sean 14:02:09 -q sean 14:02:18 +mike 14:02:38 agenda+ Assign Scribe agenda+ Charter updates agenda+ review open actions agenda+ Schema license agenda+ Change Proposal 001. agenda+ origin and extent on

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agenda+ shrink to fit regions. 14:04:11 q? 14:04:24 zakim, q? 14:04:34 zakim, ack aaaa 14:04:36 I see +44.844.800.aaaa on the speaker queue 14:04:46 I see +44.844.800.aaaa on the speaker queue 14:05:06 zakim, who's here? 14:05:39 On the phone I see glenn, sean, mike 14:05:58 q- 44.844.800.aaaa 14:06:19 On IRC I see mike, RRSAgent, Zakim, Sean, glenn, trackbot 14:06:47 + +1.617.300.aacc - is perhaps WGBH? 14:06:50 zakim, q- 44.844.800.aaaa 14:07:04 I see +44.844.800.aaaa on the speaker queue 14:07:12 zakim, aacc is geoff_freed 14:07:25 sorry, glenn, I do not recognize a party named 'aacc' 14:07:54 zakim, wgbh is geoff_freed 14:07:54 +geoff_freed; got it 14:08:13 sean: have 8 parties willing to participate 14:08:28 ... comcast, cablelabs, movielabs, ... 14:08:59 ... cox, netflix, boeing, disney 14:09:11 ... innomax? objected 14:09:31 ... adobe supports 14:09:49 ... monotype supports with changes, ebu also supports with changes 14:10:06 ... bbc and apple support, but apple likes some emphasis on interoperability 14:10:17 ... mozilla opposes due to inclusion of html5 in the charter 14:11:57 mike asks about where the proposed changes will be vetted 14:12:12 s/mike/mike:/ 14:12:41 sean: plh will provide further input on return from holiday 14:13:19 ACTION-41? 14:13:19 ACTION-41 -- Sean Hayes to aCTION: Sean to start the Note on how to use TTML with HTML5/CSS [recorded in ]http://www.w3.org/2012/02/09-ttml-minutes.html#action03] -- due 2012-04-01 -- OPEN 14:13:19 http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/41 14:13:52 ACTION-41: will postpone until determination of whether to work on HTML5 or not 14:13:52 ACTION-41 ACTION: Sean to start the Note on how to use TTML with HTML5/CSS [recorded in ]http://www.w3.org/2012/02/09-ttml-minutes.html#action03] notes added 14:16:03 ACTION-51? 14:16:03 ACTION-51 -- Glenn Adams to review and draft CP for resolving ISSUE-151 -- due 2012-03-29 -- OPEN 14:16:03 http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/51 14:16:10 ISSUE-151? 14:16:10 ISSUE-151 -- Clarify syncbase in SMPTE continuous mode -- open 14:16:10 http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/151 14:26:46 mike: thinks the typical case is discontinuous 14:27:08 ... changing the default creates a backwards incompatibility 14:29:06 ... old analog linear editors generally introduce smpte discontinuitities 14:29:22 ... believes more explanatory text is needed rather than changing default 14:31:36 sean: agrees with mike that should not change default due to backward incompatibility 14:32:02 ... not aware of any implementation that supports smpte time base yet 14:32:51 ... thinks ebu use case with archived content may employ smpte codes more 14:33:14 mike: would like to get closure on schema copyright issue 14:33:32 sean: glenn will need to do some more work on ACTION-51 14:34:50 ISSUE-169? 14:34:50 ISSUE-169 -- Unclear under what terms the XSD schema is to be available -- open 14:34:50 http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/169 14:35:17 mike: asked plh about use of schemas for derivative works 14:35:31 ... assumes it is software, but plh assumed it is documentation 14:36:43 ... schema is incorporated into spec, but extra files were a bonus 14:36:53 sean: thinks it is software 14:40:48 ... nobody in WG is objecting to this position 14:41:17 ... so will announce this consensus as a decision after a week's time if no other objection 14:48:59 ACTION sean to create ISSUE regarding use case / requirement for specifying extent and origin on content element, such as tt:p 14:48:59 Created ACTION-66 - Create ISSUE regarding use case / requirement for specifying extent and origin on content element, such as tt:p [on Sean Hayes - due 2012-05-31]. 14:49:45 sean: need to make progress on actions for next week 14:50:15 http://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal001 14:51:23 ... will try to get Jason on call to discuss ACTION-66 14:52:49 s/on call/on call next week/ 14:53:21 Topic: Adjournment 14:53:28 adjourned 14:53:32 -geoff_freed 14:53:34 -glenn 14:53:36 -mike 14:53:38 -sean 14:53:41 SYMM_TTWG()10:00AM has ended 14:53:43 Attendees were +44.844.800.aaaa, +1.858.847.aabb, mike, sean, glenn, +1.617.300.aacc, geoff_freed 14:53:49 trackbot, end meeting 14:53:49 Zakim, list attendees 14:53:51 sorry, trackbot, I don't know what conference this is 14:53:57 RRSAgent, please draft minutes 14:53:57 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/05/24-tt-minutes.html trackbot 14:53:58 RRSAgent, bye 14:53:58 I see no action items 15:38:11 RRSAgent has joined #tt 15:38:11 logging to http://www.w3.org/2012/05/24-tt-irc 15:38:43 rrsagent, draft minutes 15:38:43 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/05/24-tt-minutes.html glenn 15:38:52 rrsagent, make minutes public 15:38:52 I'm logging. I don't understand 'make minutes public', glenn. Try /msg RRSAgent help 15:40:17 rrsagent, make logs world-visible 15:40:26 rrsagent, draft minutes 15:40:26 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/05/24-tt-minutes.html glenn 15:43:59 rrsagent, bye 15:43:59 I see no action items