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14:51:20 <aphillip> trackbot, prepare teleconference
14:51:22 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world
14:51:24 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 4186
14:51:24 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see I18N_CoreWG()11:00AM scheduled to start in 9 minutes
14:51:25 <trackbot> Meeting: Internationalization Core Working Group Teleconference
14:51:25 <trackbot> Date: 02 May 2012
14:51:43 <aphillip> Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2012May/0000.html
14:51:47 <aphillip> Chair: Addison Phillips
14:51:54 <aphillip> Scribe: Addison Phillips
14:51:56 <aphillip> ScribeNick: aphillip
14:52:10 <aharon> Hi Addison, FYI I am already on the conf call, a little early
14:52:13 <aphillip> Regrets: John
14:52:13 <aphillip> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:52:13 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/05/02-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
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15:00:53 <aphillip> zakim, this is I18N
15:00:53 <Zakim> ok, aphillip; that matches I18N_CoreWG()11:00AM
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15:01:43 <r12a> zakim, dial richard
15:01:43 <Zakim> ok, r12a; the call is being made
15:01:45 <Zakim> +Richard
15:02:04 <r12a> hmmm
15:02:09 <r12a> zakim, kill richard
15:02:09 <Zakim> I don't understand 'kill richard', r12a
15:02:15 <r12a> zakim, drop richard
15:02:15 <Zakim> Richard is being disconnected
15:02:17 <Zakim> -Richard
15:02:22 <r12a> zakim, dial richard
15:02:22 <Zakim> ok, r12a; the call is being made
15:02:24 <Zakim> +Richard
15:02:58 <aphillip> agenda+ ruby use case document
15:03:10 <r12a> zakim, who's here ?
15:03:10 <Zakim> On the phone I see ??P2, Gwyneth, ??P14, Addison_Phillips, Richard
15:03:10 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/05/02-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
15:03:11 <Zakim> On IRC I see r12a, Gwyneth, RRSAgent, Zakim, aphillip, aharon, andrewc, kojiishi, kennyluck, trackbot
15:03:27 <r12a> regrets+ David
15:04:08 <aphillip> Regrets+ Felix
15:04:26 <Zakim> +??P20
15:04:31 <kojiishi> zakim, ??p20 is me
15:04:31 <Zakim> +kojiishi; got it
15:04:44 <aphillip> Topic: Agenda and Minutes
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15:05:07 <aphillip> Topic: Action Items
15:05:31 <Zakim> +Norbert
15:05:51 <r12a> http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open
15:06:08 <aphillip> close ACTION-74
15:06:08 <trackbot> ACTION-74 Prep charmod-norm for publication and coordinate with richard closed
15:07:42 <aphillip> ACTION-109: waiting for response
15:07:42 <trackbot> ACTION-109 Check about Korean layout task force notes added
15:08:35 <aphillip> ACTION-112: aharon: spec is unacceptable and/or "nowhere", thought they were further along
15:08:35 <trackbot> ACTION-112 Review IRI bidi spec for two weeks from now notes added
15:09:52 <aphillip> close ACTION-112
15:09:52 <trackbot> ACTION-112 Review IRI bidi spec for two weeks from now closed
15:10:20 <aphillip> Work on tidying up Additional Requirements for Bidi in HTML & CSS over coming couple of months
15:10:46 <aphillip> close ACTION-114
15:10:46 <trackbot> ACTION-114 Send email about Multilingual Web Sites CG to list closed
15:11:17 <aphillip> close ACTION-119
15:11:17 <trackbot> ACTION-119 Send email to richard, copy member list, describing our support for encoding document effort and expressing our concerns closed
15:12:07 <aphillip> Topic: Info Share
15:12:26 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/05/02-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
15:12:37 <aphillip> charmod-norm update published
15:13:01 <aphillip> Topic: Ruby Document
15:13:20 <r12a> http://www.w3.org/International/docs/ruby/editme.html
15:13:21 <aphillip> http://www.w3.org/International/docs/ruby/editme.html
15:13:55 <aphillip> richard: four models
15:14:23 <aphillip> ... xhtml, html, inter-leaved rb/rt model, and "grouped rb" model
15:14:57 <aphillip> ... reorganized, rewritten, re....
15:15:05 <aphillip> ... updated summary, showing four models
15:15:31 <aphillip> richard: getting close to maybe publishing first public working draft
15:15:37 <aphillip> ... and talking to implementers
15:15:42 <aphillip> ... want WG to look at it first
15:15:59 <aphillip> richard: haven't looked through email, e.g. from Roland
15:16:10 <aphillip> ... so that's a summary
15:16:15 <aphillip> ... action to read it and send comments
15:16:44 <aphillip> ACTION: addison: remind WG members to read http://www.w3.org/International/docs/ruby/editme.html with a mind to publishing FPWD (AND GROUP MEMBERS)
15:16:44 <trackbot> Created ACTION-120 - Remind WG members to read http://www.w3.org/International/docs/ruby/editme.html with a mind to publishing FPWD (AND GROUP MEMBERS) [on Addison Phillips - due 2012-05-09].
15:17:24 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/05/02-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
15:18:34 <aphillip> koji: please remind fantasai to look at it
15:18:50 <aphillip> ACTION: richard: ping non-WG members to look at Ruby document
15:18:50 <trackbot> Created ACTION-121 - Ping non-WG members to look at Ruby document [on Richard Ishida - due 2012-05-09].
15:19:47 <aphillip> richard: koji, please send email for next week
15:20:05 <aphillip> Topic: Bidi Article and IRI Bidi Guidelines
15:20:51 <r12a> http://www.w3.org/International/tutorials/new-bidi-xhtml/Overview-inline.en.php
15:21:39 <aphillip> richard: editing with aharon, made changes even today
15:21:48 <aphillip> ... wanted everyone to read and see if right direction
15:22:13 <aphillip> richard: one issue here is that we're putting forward a "more markup filled" approach
15:22:42 <aphillip> ... questions: 1) any comments on document and 2) is approach reasonable
15:22:45 <r12a> http://www.w3.org/International/tutorials/new-bidi-xhtml/Overview-inline.en.php#together
15:32:00 <andrewc> could you try something like document.createElement('bdi'); and test for error?
15:46:40 <aphillip> ACTION: Gwyneth: check on <bdi> support in IE10
15:46:40 <trackbot> Created ACTION-122 - Check on <bdi> support in IE10 [on Gwyneth Marshall - due 2012-05-09].
15:47:36 <r12a> http://www.w3.org/International/tutorials/new-bidi-xhtml/Overview-inline.en.php#together
15:47:40 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/05/02-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
15:54:52 <aphillip> richard: want to bring back in a week from now for wide review
15:55:14 <aphillip> ... also a bunch of other documents waiting
15:55:20 <aphillip> ... see URIs:
15:55:29 <r12a> http://www.w3.org/International/wiki/Core_Pipeline
15:57:19 <aphillip> ACTION: addison: remind all group members to review other bidi documents in the Core Pipeline for wide review by next week (AND ALL GROUP MEMBERS)
15:57:19 <trackbot> Created ACTION-123 - Remind all group members to review other bidi documents in the Core Pipeline for wide review by next week (AND ALL GROUP MEMBERS) [on Addison Phillips - due 2012-05-09].
15:57:48 <aphillip> Topic: AOB?
16:00:39 <Zakim> -Gwyneth
16:00:41 <aphillip> rrsagent, draft minutes
16:00:41 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/05/02-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
16:00:42 <Zakim> -Addison_Phillips
16:00:47 <Zakim> -kojiishi
16:00:49 <Zakim> -Norbert
16:00:57 <Zakim> -aharon
16:01:05 <andrewc> andrewc has left #i18n
16:01:13 <aphillip> Present: Addison, Richard, Aharon, Norbert, Andrew, Gwyneth, Koji
16:01:18 <aharon> aharon has left #i18n
16:01:23 <aphillip> rrsagent, make minutes
16:01:23 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/05/02-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
16:01:38 <aphillip> zakim, bye
16:01:50 <aphillip> rrsagent, bye
16:01:50 <RRSAgent> I see 4 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2012/05/02-i18n-actions.rdf :
16:01:50 <RRSAgent> ACTION: addison: remind WG members to read http://www.w3.org/International/docs/ruby/editme.html with a mind to publishing FPWD (AND GROUP MEMBERS) [1]
16:01:50 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/05/02-i18n-irc#T15-16-44
16:01:50 <RRSAgent> ACTION: richard: ping non-WG members to look at Ruby document [2]
16:01:50 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/05/02-i18n-irc#T15-18-50
16:01:50 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Gwyneth: check on <bdi> support in IE10 [3]
16:01:50 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/05/02-i18n-irc#T15-46-40
16:01:50 <RRSAgent> ACTION: addison: remind all group members to review other bidi documents in the Core Pipeline for wide review by next week (AND ALL GROUP MEMBERS) [4]
16:01:50 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/05/02-i18n-irc#T15-57-19
16:01:53 <Zakim> -andrewc