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14:52:02 <aphillip> trackbot, prepare teleconference
14:52:10 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world
14:52:12 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 4186
14:52:12 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see I18N_CoreWG()11:00AM scheduled to start in 8 minutes
14:52:13 <trackbot> Meeting: Internationalization Core Working Group Teleconference
14:52:13 <trackbot> Date: 25 April 2012
14:52:25 <aphillip> Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2012Apr/0005.html
14:52:27 <aphillip> Chair: Addison Phillips
14:52:31 <aphillip> Scribe: Addison Phillips
14:52:35 <aphillip> ScribeNick: aphillip
14:52:42 <aphillip> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:52:42 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/04/25-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
14:53:10 <aphillip> rrsagent, set logs world
14:59:04 <David> David has joined #i18n
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15:00:05 <Zakim> I18N_CoreWG()11:00AM has now started
15:00:12 <Zakim> +??P5
15:00:19 <r12a> zakim, dial richard
15:00:19 <Zakim> ok, r12a; the call is being made
15:00:21 <Zakim> +Richard
15:00:24 <kojiishi> kojiishi has joined #i18n
15:00:26 <David> zakim, ?? is me
15:00:27 <Zakim> +David; got it
15:00:32 <Zakim> +Addison_Phillips
15:00:39 <aphillip> zakim, I am Addison_Phillips
15:00:39 <Zakim> ok, aphillip, I now associate you with Addison_Phillips
15:00:40 <r12a> zakim, who's making noise?
15:00:50 <Zakim> r12a, listening for 10 seconds I could not identify any sounds
15:01:00 <r12a> zakim, who's making noise?
15:01:12 <Zakim> r12a, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: David (98%), Addison_Phillips (11%)
15:01:50 <Zakim> +??P11
15:01:56 <kojiishi> zakim, ??p11 is me
15:01:56 <Zakim> +kojiishi; got it
15:01:58 <Zakim> -David
15:02:24 <Zakim> +??P5
15:02:49 <David> zakim, mute me
15:02:49 <Zakim> sorry, David, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you
15:03:04 <aphillip> zakim, ??P5 is David
15:03:04 <Zakim> +David; got it
15:03:10 <David> zakim, +??P5 is me
15:03:10 <Zakim> sorry, David, I do not recognize a party named '+??P5'
15:03:22 <David> zakim, ??p5 is me
15:03:22 <Zakim> I already had ??P5 as David, David
15:03:37 <David> zakim, mute me
15:03:37 <Zakim> David should now be muted
15:04:17 <Zakim> +Norbert
15:04:34 <Norbert> Norbert has joined #i18n
15:05:35 <aphillip> Regrets: Mati, Aharon, Felix
15:07:18 <aphillip> Topic: Agenda and Minutes
15:07:27 <aphillip> Topic: Action Items
15:07:48 <aphillip> richard: quick review of an issue on our issue list
15:09:39 <aphillip> action-74: slated for pub next tuesday-ish
15:09:39 <trackbot> ACTION-74 Prep charmod-norm for publication and coordinate with richard notes added
15:09:53 <r12a> http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open
15:11:47 <aphillip> close ACTION-116
15:11:47 <trackbot> ACTION-116 Send email to our list about our need to recharter and our desire to do so under Patent Policy so that we may publish REQ track documents again with implications, process, etc. closed
15:12:03 <aphillip> close ACTION-117
15:12:03 <trackbot> ACTION-117 Send note about encoding document well before tuesday about approach, etc. closed
15:12:36 <aphillip> Topic: Info Share
15:13:07 <r12a> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ishida/
15:13:11 <aphillip> JLReq was published in book form
15:13:44 <aphillip> looking at publishing as ebook
15:15:40 <aphillip> Topic: Quick Review of an Issue From Our Issue List
15:16:01 <r12a> http://www.w3.org/International/track/issues/open
15:16:12 <r12a> http://www.w3.org/International/track/issues/open?sort=product
15:17:00 <r12a> http://www.w3.org/International/track/issues/147
15:21:41 <aphillip> close ISSUE-147
15:21:41 <trackbot> ISSUE-147 [css3-syntax] CSS escape sequences closed
15:22:35 <aphillip> Topic: Bidi Article and IRI Bidi Guidelines
15:22:39 <aphillip> no comments this week
15:22:54 <aphillip> Topic: Encoding Document
15:23:29 <aphillip> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2012AprJun/0023.html
15:23:41 <aphillip> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2012AprJun/0027.html
15:23:49 <aphillip> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2012AprJun/0029.html
15:24:23 <aphillip> norbert: concerned that it's too ambitious
15:24:30 <aphillip> ... doesn't allow extensions
15:24:37 <aphillip> ... doesn't consider other user-agents
15:24:46 <aphillip> ... some, like search engines, do things differently
15:24:55 <aphillip> ... or have more extensive collection of encodings
15:25:25 <aphillip> norbert: also the problem of font-based encodings
15:25:30 <aphillip> ... not addressed
15:27:40 <aphillip> norbert: a document that describes issues and then has open-ended approach would be more useful
15:27:52 <aphillip> ... than "here's the standard and there's nothing else"
15:28:58 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/04/25-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
15:32:43 <aphillip> addison: do we forbid "encodings not listed"
15:39:46 <aphillip> richard: is it likely for this WG to take up this work?
15:39:52 <aphillip> ... and what issues do we have with the document?
15:40:45 <Zakim> -David
15:47:27 <aphillip> norbert: need a call for participation
15:48:19 <aphillip> 1. need call for participation to ensure that there is critical mass to complete this work
15:48:48 <aphillip> 2. need to consider modifying the approach to ensure successful conversion of this work
15:49:20 <aphillip> s/conversion/completion/
15:51:06 <aphillip> 3. think I18N WG is the correct home for this work and we are willing to host it (dependent on charter)
15:51:37 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/04/25-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
15:54:43 <Zakim> +??P3
15:54:55 <David> zakim, ??p2 is me
15:54:55 <Zakim> I already had ??P2 as David_Wood, David
15:55:07 <David> zakim, mute me
15:55:07 <Zakim> sorry, David, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you
15:55:09 <aphillip> ACTION: addison: send email to richard, copy member list, describing our support for encoding document effort and expressing our concerns
15:55:09 <trackbot> Created ACTION-119 - Send email to richard, copy member list, describing our support for encoding document effort and expressing our concerns [on Addison Phillips - due 2012-05-02].
15:55:18 <aphillip> zakim, ??P3 is David
15:55:18 <Zakim> +David; got it
15:55:25 <r12a> zakim, who's here?
15:55:25 <Zakim> On the phone I see Richard, Addison_Phillips, kojiishi, Norbert, David
15:55:26 <Zakim> On IRC I see Norbert, kojiishi, aphillip, David, Zakim, RRSAgent, r12a, kennyluck, trackbot
15:55:29 <David> zakim, mute me
15:55:29 <Zakim> David should now be muted
15:55:32 <aphillip> zakim, mute david
15:55:32 <Zakim> David was already muted, aphillip
15:55:53 <aphillip> Topic: Rechartering
15:56:08 <aphillip> richard: need to start assembling the charter
16:00:00 <aphillip> Topic: AOB?
16:01:15 <David> zakim, unmute me
16:01:15 <Zakim> David should no longer be muted
16:01:22 <Zakim> -David
16:01:23 <Zakim> -Norbert
16:01:26 <Zakim> -kojiishi
16:01:27 <r12a> zakim, who's here ?
16:01:27 <Zakim> On the phone I see Richard, Addison_Phillips
16:01:29 <Zakim> On IRC I see Norbert, kojiishi, aphillip, David, Zakim, RRSAgent, r12a, kennyluck, trackbot
16:03:03 <aphillip> rrsagent, make minutes
16:03:03 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/04/25-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
16:04:05 <Zakim> -Addison_Phillips
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16:08:46 <aphillip> Present: Addison, Richard, Norbert, Koji, David
16:08:52 <aphillip> rrsagent, make minutes
16:08:52 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/04/25-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
16:08:57 <aphillip> zakim, bye
16:08:57 <Zakim> Zakim has left #i18n
16:08:58 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees were Richard, David, Addison_Phillips, kojiishi, Norbert
16:09:25 <aphillip> rrsagent, bye
16:09:25 <RRSAgent> I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2012/04/25-i18n-actions.rdf :
16:09:25 <RRSAgent> ACTION: addison: send email to richard, copy member list, describing our support for encoding document effort and expressing our concerns [1]
16:09:25 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/04/25-i18n-irc#T15-55-09