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15:59:38 <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
15:59:38 <trackbot> Date: 19 April 2012
15:59:52 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
16:00:03 <Zakim> +??P30
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16:00:11 <glenn> zakim, ??p30 is glenn
16:00:11 <Zakim> +glenn; got it
16:00:26 <rubys> hober: ack.  everybody else: any volunteers to scribe?
16:00:35 <krisk> zakim, Microsoft is me
16:00:35 <Zakim> +krisk; got it
16:00:57 <Zakim> +Sam
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16:01:07 <Zakim> +Radhika_Roy
16:01:34 <Zakim> +??P42
16:01:37 <Zakim> +hober
16:01:37 <glenn> i can scribe, but will remain on mute
16:01:43 <rubys> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2012AprJun/0006.html
16:01:45 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
16:01:53 <rubys> thanks glenn!
16:01:58 <adrianba> zakim, [Microsoft] is me
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16:02:03 <glenn> scribenick: glenn
16:02:06 <Zakim> +adrianba; got it
16:02:10 <glenn> topic: ACTION items due by Thursday, April 19
16:02:29 <glenn> none
16:02:36 <glenn> topic: New Issues This Week
16:02:39 <glenn> none
16:02:49 <glenn> topic: Items closed last week
16:02:54 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
16:02:56 <glenn> ISSUE-184?
16:02:56 <trackbot> ISSUE-184 -- Add a data element -- open
16:02:56 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/184
16:03:07 <glenn> ISSUE-198?
16:03:07 <trackbot> ISSUE-198 -- Ensure innerHTML and related APIs are subject to the W3C patent policy -- open
16:03:07 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/198
16:03:22 <Zakim> +Cynthia_Shelly
16:03:27 <Zakim> +Mark_Watson
16:03:29 <glenn> ISSUE-201?
16:03:29 <trackbot> ISSUE-201 -- Provide canvas location and hit testing capability to fallback content -- open
16:03:29 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/201
16:03:42 <Zakim> +Mark_Vickers
16:03:47 <MikeSmith> Zakim, call Mike
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16:03:50 <glenn> ISSUE-183?
16:03:50 <trackbot> ISSUE-183 -- Enhance and simplify the time element -- open
16:03:50 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/183
16:03:52 <Zakim> +??P26
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16:03:58 <Zakim> ok, MikeSmith; the call is being made
16:04:00 <Zakim> +Mike
16:04:00 <glenn> topic: Items closing next week
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16:04:11 <glenn> s/next/this/
16:04:17 <Zakim> +Joseph_Scheuhammer
16:04:22 <janina> zakim, ??P26 is Janina
16:04:23 <glenn> ISSUE-204?
16:04:23 <trackbot> ISSUE-204 -- Exempt ARIA attributes from the rule that prohibits reference to hidden elements -- open
16:04:23 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/204
16:04:33 <Zakim> +Janina; got it
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16:04:39 <glenn> ISSUE-204: Call for Counter Proposals closes Apr 18
16:04:39 <trackbot> ISSUE-204 Exempt ARIA attributes from the rule that prohibits reference to hidden elements notes added
16:04:50 <tantek> greetings, scribe, Zakim, I am attending by IRC only today.
16:05:10 <glenn> ???: some proposals may be withdrawn, should sort out today
16:05:21 <rubys> s/???/cynthia/
16:05:24 <glenn> topic: Items closing next week
16:05:27 <glenn> none
16:05:33 <glenn> topic: New calls this week
16:05:35 <glenn> none
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16:05:42 <glenn> topic: New surveys this week
16:05:50 <glenn> none, but might be one coming up shortly
16:05:58 <glenn> topic: Decisions this week
16:06:06 <JVoracek>  
16:06:12 <glenn> ISSUE-184: Data Element adopted by Amicable Consensus
16:06:12 <trackbot> ISSUE-184 Add a data element notes added
16:06:16 <glenn> ISSUE-184?
16:06:16 <trackbot> ISSUE-184 -- Add a data element -- open
16:06:16 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/184
16:06:37 <glenn> topic: Task force reports
16:06:43 <Zakim> -Mark_Vickers
16:06:50 <glenn> topic: Testing Task Force
16:06:55 <krisk> We met on 4/10 
16:07:01 <krisk> Notes -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-testsuite/2012Apr/0005.html
16:07:08 <glenn> krisk: no new bugs
16:07:27 <glenn> ... reviewed canvas patch from ms2ger, see IRC logs
16:07:33 <glenn> s/patch/test
16:07:39 <glenn> s/patch/test/
16:07:42 <krisk> we meet agin on 4/24th
16:07:48 <Zakim> +Mark_Vickers
16:07:53 <rubys> s/agin/again/
16:07:56 <Zakim> -Mark_Vickers
16:07:58 <glenn> topic: Accessibility Task Force
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16:08:24 <glenn> ??? focusing on issue 204
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16:08:37 <glenn> ... forwarded two last night
16:09:00 <Zakim> +Mark_Vickers
16:09:00 <glenn> s/two/two proposals/
16:09:22 <glenn> [who is talking?]
16:09:46 <glenn> ... will take up review of 194
16:09:55 <glenn> s/???/janina/
16:10:13 <glenn> topic: Other Business
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16:10:24 <glenn> CfC: Create Media Task Force - deadline now April 18
16:10:35 <glenn> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Apr/0074.html
16:11:17 <glenn> janina: needs discussion and involvement from accessibility
16:11:33 <glenn> ISSUE-133: modal-attribute: CLOSED
16:11:33 <trackbot> ISSUE-133 Add a modal attribute to html5 to indicate a modal segment of the DOM (modal dialog) notes added
16:11:45 <glenn> ISSUE-194: full-transcript: change proposal reviews
16:11:45 <trackbot> ISSUE-194 Provide a mechanism for associating a full transcript with an audio or video element. notes added
16:11:54 <Zakim> -Mark_Vickers
16:11:56 <glenn> ISSUE-195: form-http-req: change proposal reviews
16:11:56 <trackbot> ISSUE-195 Enhance http request generation from forms notes added
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16:12:32 <glenn> ISSUE-198: innerHTML-patent-policy: change proposal needs to be revised
16:12:32 <trackbot> ISSUE-198 Ensure innerHTML and related APIs are subject to the W3C patent policy notes added
16:12:49 <glenn> ISSUE-199: aria-processing: change proposal reviews
16:12:49 <trackbot> ISSUE-199 Define complete processing requirements for ARIA attributes notes added
16:13:03 <glenn> ISSUE-200: legend-placement: change proposal reviews
16:13:03 <trackbot> ISSUE-200 Allow wrapping LEGEND (or new iLEGEND) in non-FIELDSET elements notes added
16:13:11 <glenn> ISSUE-201: canvas-fallback: delaying action until after the F2F
16:13:11 <trackbot> ISSUE-201 Provide canvas location and hit testing capability to fallback content notes added
16:13:25 <Zakim> +milan
16:13:33 <glenn> ISSUE-205: text-editing-canvas: change proposal reviews
16:13:34 <trackbot> ISSUE-205 Define what author guidance and/or methods should be provided to those that wish to create accessible text editors using canvas as a rendering surface. notes added
16:13:43 <glenn> Open Web Platform Summary
16:13:51 <glenn> http://www.w3.org/QA/2012/04/openweb-weekly-31.html
16:14:04 <glenn> topic: AOB
16:14:12 <glenn> none
16:14:22 <glenn> topic: Scribe for next meeting
16:14:45 <krisk> I can scribe
16:14:46 <glenn> none
16:14:53 <glenn> krisk will scribe
16:15:01 <glenn> topic: Adjournment
16:15:03 <Zakim> -hober
16:15:04 <paulc> Thanks, Sam
16:15:05 <Zakim> -Radhika_Roy
16:15:07 <glenn> adjourned
16:15:07 <Zakim> -Sam
16:15:08 <Zakim> -Mike
16:15:08 <Zakim> -??P0
16:15:10 <Zakim> -Cynthia_Shelly
16:15:10 <Zakim> -Janina
16:15:11 <Zakim> -??P42
16:15:11 <Zakim> -krisk
16:15:12 <Zakim> -Mark_Watson
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16:15:17 <glenn> rrsagent, publish minutes
16:15:17 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/04/19-html-wg-minutes.html glenn
16:15:19 <Zakim> -milan
16:15:30 <krisk> Hey Mikesmith do you have some time to chat on IRC?
16:15:45 <Zakim> -Joseph_Scheuhammer
16:16:21 <Zakim> -glenn
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16:30:16 <MikeSmith> krisk, I will in about 10 minutes
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16:38:19 <MikeSmith> krisk, back now
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16:50:48 <krisk> Hey mike I have another module to add to the websocket server
16:51:00 <MikeSmith> OK
16:51:10 <krisk> Though in the past you had a suggestion to make it easier on your side to add modules
16:51:31 <krisk> I didn't understand exactly what you ment in the email(s)
16:51:46 <krisk> could you explain or suggest how you would like this to be setup?
16:52:56 <MikeSmith> hang on gimme a minute to look at the code again
16:54:04 <krisk> feel free to send it in email as well if you need more time to gather your thoughts
16:55:11 <MikeSmith> no, let's do it now
16:57:09 <MikeSmith> krisk, did you check those java sources into dvcs.w3.org?
16:57:42 <MikeSmith> ah yeah
16:58:01 <krisk> No but I can check them in, it will only take a few minutes
16:58:28 <MikeSmith> no, I mean the previous onese
16:58:40 <MikeSmith> I see they are at http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/webapps/file/tip/WebSockets/tests/jetty/echo
16:58:44 <MikeSmith> so OK
16:59:20 <krisk> correct that this the current one
16:59:24 <MikeSmith> krisk: so now my question
16:59:50 <MikeSmith> is your other module a class like EntryPoint? or is it a class like TestServer?
17:00:24 <MikeSmith> hmm, I don't think it matters either way
17:00:25 <krisk> It has both
17:00:30 <MikeSmith> OK
17:00:38 <MikeSmith> so what port does it run on?
17:03:22 <krisk> It would be the same ports
17:03:50 <MikeSmith> so I don't see how that would work without shutting down one or the other
17:04:03 <MikeSmith> are you guys running them that way internally?
17:04:10 <MikeSmith> if so, I'd really like to know how
17:05:06 <krisk> We could put them on different ports
17:05:07 <MikeSmith> the class you sent me, I am calling it from the java command this way:
17:05:36 <MikeSmith> yeah, I don't would like to avoid opening up N different ports for N different classes
17:06:01 <MikeSmith> I am calling the existing EntryPoint class you sent me this way:
17:06:06 <krisk> I suspect that we won't need many more classes
17:06:38 <MikeSmith> OK
17:07:08 <MikeSmith> so if you check in the code I will get it deployed and will open up new ports for it
17:07:25 <krisk> Though we have it such that the path is differnet
17:07:35 <MikeSmith> path?
17:07:39 <MikeSmith> the class name?
17:07:42 <krisk> e.g. wss://foo.com/echo
17:07:54 <krisk> and wss://foo.com/control
17:08:01 <MikeSmith> yeah, that's fine
17:08:07 <MikeSmith> that part is no problem
17:08:41 <krisk> Ok I'll push the files into Hg and send you an email
17:08:45 <MikeSmith> thanks man
17:09:14 <krisk> You'll need to make a simalar modification for the secure ports like the previous configuration on your end
17:09:26 <krisk> thanks and have a good day/night
17:11:02 <MikeSmith> yep
17:11:04 <MikeSmith> cheers
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17:31:42 <Zakim> HTML_WG()12:00PM has ended
17:31:42 <Zakim> Attendees were glenn, krisk, Sam, Radhika_Roy, hober, adrianba, [Microsoft], Cynthia_Shelly, Mark_Watson, Mark_Vickers, Mike, Joseph_Scheuhammer, Janina, milan
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