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14:54:10 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 2119
14:54:10 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see WAI_PFWG(HTML TF)10:00AM scheduled to start 54 minutes ago
14:54:11 <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Accessibility Task Force Teleconference
14:54:11 <trackbot> Date: 19 April 2012
14:58:43 <MichaelC> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2012Apr/0127.html
14:58:49 <MichaelC> regrets: Laura_Carlson
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15:01:15 <janina> trackbot, start meeting
15:01:17 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world
15:01:19 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 2119
15:01:19 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see WAI_PFWG(HTML TF)10:00AM scheduled to start 61 minutes ago
15:01:20 <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Accessibility Task Force Teleconference
15:01:20 <trackbot> Date: 19 April 2012
15:01:48 <janina> Meeting: HTML-A11Y Task Force Teleconference
15:01:48 <janina> Chair: Janina_Sajka
15:01:48 <janina> Scribe: Steve_Faulkner
15:01:48 <janina> agenda+ Issue-204 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2012Apr/0124.html
15:01:51 <janina> agenda+ Issue-199 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Apr/0143.html
15:01:54 <janina> agenda+ Issue-194 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Apr/0141.html
15:01:57 <janina> agenda+ Subteam Reports: Bug Triage; Text; ARIA Mappings
15:01:59 <janina> agenda+ Other Business
15:02:02 <janina> agenda+ Actions Review http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/open
15:02:04 <janina> agenda+ Identify Scribe for the next TF teleconference http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/index.php?title=Scribe_List
15:02:07 <janina> agenda+ be done
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15:02:20 <janina>  zakim, who's here?
15:02:20 <Zakim> I notice WAI_PFWG(HTML TF)10:00AM has restarted
15:02:21 <Zakim> On the phone I see ??P10
15:02:21 <Zakim> On IRC I see paulc, janina, Zakim, RRSAgent, davidb, MikeSmith, MichaelC, [tm], trackbot
15:02:38 <janina> zakim, ??P10 is Janina
15:02:38 <Zakim> +Janina; got it
15:02:39 <MikeSmith> Zakim, call Mike
15:02:39 <Zakim> ok, MikeSmith; the call is being made
15:02:44 <Zakim> +Mike
15:03:03 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
15:03:08 <Zakim> +Cooper
15:03:18 <MichaelC> zakim, Microsoft is Paul_Cotton
15:03:28 <Zakim> +Paul_Cotton; got it
15:07:13 <Zakim> +Cynthia_Shelly
15:08:50 <Zakim> +Judy
15:11:26 <Zakim> +??P36
15:11:46 <MichaelC> zakim, ??P36 is Léonie_Watson
15:11:46 <Zakim> +Léonie_Watson; got it
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15:36:12 <Judy> zakim, make minutes
15:36:12 <Zakim> I don't understand 'make minutes', Judy
15:36:20 <Judy> rrsagent, make minutes
15:36:20 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/04/19-html-a11y-minutes.html Judy
15:36:28 <Judy> zakim, sorry...
15:36:28 <Zakim> I don't understand 'sorry', Judy
15:38:39 <Judy> summary: general discussion, including updates on the following: 
15:39:08 <Judy> scribe: judy
15:39:13 <Judy> chair: janina
15:39:28 <Judy> present: janina, paul, cynthia, judy, leonie
15:39:37 <paulc> http://dev.w3.org/html5/status/issue-status.html#ISSUE-204
15:41:31 <Judy> - on issue 204 (aria hidden), cynthia is taking in a few addition comments from list discussion and other CP's; paul notes that the html co-chair review of this will start within 24 hours, and encourages rapid stabilization; john will likely be withdrawing his.
15:42:22 <janina> Cynthia's (and PF's) is:
15:42:23 <janina> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/Correct_Hidden_Attribute_Section_v2
15:42:28 <Zakim> +Judy.a
15:42:29 <Zakim> -Judy
15:43:31 <Judy> s/be withdrawing his/be withdrawing his in deference to Laura's./
15:44:45 <Judy> paul: the co-chairs were expecting to review laura's
15:44:59 <janina> Laura's CP, also based on John's, is at:
15:45:00 <janina> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/CorrectHidden#UAIG
15:45:21 <Judy> janina: cynthia is representing the aria tf on their proposal, which was what the tf expected
15:46:20 <Judy> paul: we hadn't received an announcement of cynthia's cp
15:46:36 <janina> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Apr/0162.html
15:46:56 <Judy> janina: i announced this yesterday evening
15:47:19 <Judy> paul:  janina this is exactly right, sorry for missing it.
15:50:31 <Judy> judy: encourages further convergence of CP's on this today, on behalf of a clear TF position
15:55:32 <Judy> general discussion on how to pursue more convergence on 204....
15:55:56 <Judy> janina: requests more background on media issue
15:56:27 <Judy> paul: relates to adaptive streaming, may be another survey forthcoming
15:58:02 <Judy> janina: thx for update 
15:58:16 <Judy> judy: good opportunity to state the accessibility issues
15:59:04 <Judy> cynthia: long history of accessibility issues with DRM; ways to solve it, but needs consideration; the specific issue is screen reader blockage. public domain ebooks have better addressed this.
16:00:06 <Judy> janina: worked w/ Library of Congress on security issues on accessibility and DRM
16:00:47 <Zakim> -Léonie_Watson
16:01:05 <Zakim> -Paul_Cotton
16:01:44 <Judy> paul: the survey is about creating a TF, and you should get info together on that and put it onto the html wg list
16:02:07 <Judy> cynthia: accessibility media group should send use cases
16:02:17 <MichaelC> rrsagent, make minutes
16:02:17 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/04/19-html-a11y-minutes.html MichaelC
16:02:29 <Zakim> -Mike
16:02:29 <MichaelC> zakim, list attendees
16:02:35 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been Janina, Mike, Cooper, Paul_Cotton, Cynthia_Shelly, Judy, Léonie_Watson
16:02:39 <MichaelC> rrsagent, make minutes
16:02:39 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/04/19-html-a11y-minutes.html MichaelC
16:02:56 <Zakim> -Cynthia_Shelly
16:03:04 <Zakim> -Cooper
16:03:10 <Zakim> -Judy.a
16:03:13 <Zakim> -Janina
16:03:17 <Zakim> WAI_PFWG(HTML TF)10:00AM has ended
16:03:18 <Zakim> Attendees were Janina, Mike, Cooper, Paul_Cotton, Cynthia_Shelly, Judy, Léonie_Watson
16:15:32 <janina> scribe: janina
16:15:55 <janina> cyns: I will add info re title to my I204 CP
16:16:25 <janina> cyns: Also, I'll add an explanation of why A11Y APIs flatten ml to text strings
16:17:21 <janina> cyns: And, I'll add an explanation that this flattening happens whether or not content is hidden--that hidden has nothing to do with the flattening.
16:18:19 <janina> janina: I'll make sure Rich knows about the HTML Chair review of I199, and ask whether an opportunity to incorporate Ted O'connor's CP concerns
16:18:43 <janina> janina: Also, we need to look at the I194 (text transcript on media elements) review
16:18:55 <janina> rrsagent, make log public
16:18:59 <janina> rrsagent, make minutes
16:18:59 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/04/19-html-a11y-minutes.html janina
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