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14:52:17 <aphillip> trackbot, prepare teleconferent
14:52:17 <trackbot> Sorry, aphillip, I don't understand 'trackbot, prepare teleconferent'. Please refer to http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/irc for help
14:52:26 <aphillip> trackbot, prepare teleconference
14:52:28 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world
14:52:30 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 4186
14:52:30 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see I18N_CoreWG()11:00AM scheduled to start in 8 minutes
14:52:31 <trackbot> Meeting: Internationalization Core Working Group Teleconference
14:52:31 <trackbot> Date: 18 April 2012
14:52:38 <aphillip> Regrets: David
14:53:02 <aphillip> Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2012Apr/0004.html
14:53:12 <aphillip> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:53:12 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/04/18-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
14:54:17 <aphillip> Chair: Addison Phillips
14:54:21 <aphillip> Scribe: Addison Phillips
14:54:24 <aphillip> ScribeNick: aphillip
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15:00:26 <r12a> trackbot, start meeting
15:00:28 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world
15:00:30 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 4186
15:00:30 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see I18N_CoreWG()11:00AM scheduled to start now
15:00:31 <trackbot> Meeting: Internationalization Core Working Group Teleconference
15:00:31 <trackbot> Date: 18 April 2012
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15:00:52 <Zakim> +Addison_Phillips
15:00:59 <r12a> zakim, dial richard
15:00:59 <Zakim> ok, r12a; the call is being made
15:01:00 <Zakim> +Richard
15:01:18 <Zakim> +Norbert
15:01:21 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
15:05:05 <aphillip> Regrets: Felix, David
15:05:36 <aphillip> Topic: Agenda and Minutes
15:06:01 <aphillip> richard: add bidi articles to agenda
15:06:16 <aphillip> Topic: Action Items
15:09:22 <aphillip> close ACTION-107
15:09:22 <trackbot> ACTION-107 Inform group of need to submit comments on encoding document by 4 April closed
15:10:11 <aphillip> close ACTION-110
15:10:11 <trackbot> ACTION-110 Review Web Workers and submit comments directly from tracker comments closed
15:10:40 <aphillip> close ACTION-111
15:10:40 <trackbot> ACTION-111 Contact Anne about sources for information in encoding spec closed
15:11:41 <aphillip> Topic: Info Share
15:11:57 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/04/18-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
15:12:04 <aphillip> richard: re-wrote instructions
15:12:08 <aphillip> ... for doing reviews
15:12:11 <r12a> http://www.w3.org/International/reviews/review-instructions
15:12:11 <aphillip> ... link:
15:12:33 <aphillip> richard: talks about different product types
15:13:00 <aphillip> ... separate instructions for direct reviews vs. finding a bug in the existing tracking systems like bugzilla
15:13:18 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/04/18-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
15:13:47 <aphillip> Topic: Rechartering
15:14:24 <aphillip> richard: we need to extend our charter
15:14:42 <aphillip> ... but we also have growing needs to publish REC track documents
15:14:51 <aphillip> ... the encoding document seems to be naturally ours
15:15:01 <aphillip> richard: question is impact on our current membership
15:17:01 <aphillip> addison: has no impact on me
15:17:23 <aphillip> ... and I think it would be helpful
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15:19:30 <Zakim> + +972.5.424.5aaaa
15:19:50 <aharon> zakim, mute me
15:19:50 <Zakim> aharon should now be muted
15:23:23 <aphillip> action: addison: send email to our list about our need to recharter and our desire to do so under Patent Policy so that we may publish REQ track documents again with implications, process, etc.
15:23:23 <trackbot> Created ACTION-116 - Send email to our list about our need to recharter and our desire to do so under Patent Policy so that we may publish REQ track documents again with implications, process, etc. [on Addison Phillips - due 2012-04-25].
15:23:44 <aharon> zakim, unmute me
15:23:44 <Zakim> aharon should no longer be muted
15:24:10 <aphillip> Topic: IRI bidi spec
15:24:28 <aphillip> aharon: martin sent me a useful email about our intention to review
15:24:34 <aphillip> ... said it's not ready for review
15:24:40 <aphillip> ... but need participation in discuss
15:24:45 <aphillip> s/discuss/discussion/
15:25:14 <aphillip> ... usual contentious issue: whether RTL IRIs should display entirely RTL
15:25:27 <aphillip> ... without introducing serious usability issues
15:25:40 <aphillip> ... since mixed IRIs might be hard to read
15:25:54 <aphillip> ... not clear if there are solutions yet
15:26:10 <aphillip> ... intend to send responses on list.
15:27:47 <aphillip> addison: (summarizes current iri state)
15:41:48 <aphillip> Topic: Bidi Articles
15:42:04 <aharon> zakim, mute me
15:42:04 <Zakim> aharon should now be muted
15:42:17 <r12a> http://www.w3.org/International/tutorials/new-bidi-xhtml/Overview-inline.en.php#where
15:43:04 <aphillip> richard: working hard on this, want to put this before people
15:43:13 <aphillip> ... see that we're going in right direction
15:46:26 <aphillip> richard: (summarizes document structure)
15:47:18 <aphillip> richard: direction change from using minimal markup and understanding the text structure
15:47:27 <aphillip> ... new direction is to over-markup
15:49:59 <aharon> zakim, unmute me
15:49:59 <Zakim> aharon should no longer be muted
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15:55:55 <Zakim> +??P17
15:56:03 <matial> ??P17 is me
15:56:16 <matial> zakim, ??P17 is me
15:56:16 <Zakim> +matial; got it
15:56:42 <aphillip> richard: please comment on key message of document
15:57:24 <aharon> zakim, mute me
15:57:24 <Zakim> aharon should now be muted
16:02:13 <aphillip> Topic: Encoding Document Next Steps
16:02:32 <aphillip> action: addison: send note about encoding document well before tuesday about approach, etc.
16:02:32 <trackbot> Created ACTION-117 - Send note about encoding document well before tuesday about approach, etc. [on Addison Phillips - due 2012-04-25].
16:03:10 <aphillip> norbert: anne has done a lot of research
16:03:14 <aphillip> ... but by observation
16:03:35 <aphillip> ... he needs to talk to implementers about how encoding conversion is done
16:04:01 <r12a> ACTION: XXX to do YYY (AND ALL GROUP MEMBERS)
16:04:01 <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - XXX
16:04:01 <r12a> Where XXX = the chair of the meeting. The chair can then take responsibility to forward notification of the action to all WG members via email.
16:05:59 <aphillip> richard: can I get short summarized version of views?
16:07:32 <aphillip> action: addison to read and comment on bidi tutorial update at http://www.w3.org/International/tutorials/new-bidi-xhtml/Overview-inline.en.php#where (AND ALL GROUP MEMBERS)
16:07:32 <trackbot> Created ACTION-118 - Read and comment on bidi tutorial update at http://www.w3.org/International/tutorials/new-bidi-xhtml/Overview-inline.en.php#where (AND ALL GROUP MEMBERS) [on Addison Phillips - due 2012-04-25].
16:08:02 <aphillip> Topic: AOB?
16:08:12 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/04/18-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
16:08:22 <aphillip> richard: please look at review radar
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16:08:56 <aharon> Bye , everybody.
16:09:04 <matial> Bye
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16:09:57 <aphillip> rrsagent, make minutes
16:09:57 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/04/18-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
16:14:11 <Zakim> disconnecting the lone participant, Richard, in I18N_CoreWG()11:00AM
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16:14:12 <Zakim> Attendees were Addison_Phillips, Richard, Norbert, Gwyneth, +972.5.424.5aaaa, aharon, matial