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19:58:55 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be WAI_WCAG
19:58:55 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see WAI_WCAG()4:00PM scheduled to start in 2 minutes
19:58:56 <trackbot> Meeting: Web Content Accessibility Guidelines Working Group Teleconference
19:58:56 <trackbot> Date: 12 April 2012
19:59:18 <Zakim> WAI_WCAG()4:00PM has now started
19:59:19 <Zakim> +Cooper
20:00:20 <Zakim> +Andrew_Kirkpatrick
20:00:22 <Zakim> -Andrew_Kirkpatrick
20:00:33 <Zakim> +Andrew_Kirkpatrick
20:00:50 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
20:00:51 <Zakim> +Bruce_Bailey
20:00:54 <Zakim> +[Microsoft.a]
20:01:05 <Zakim> -Bruce_Bailey
20:01:27 <Zakim> +Bruce_Bailey
20:01:34 <MichaelC> zakim, Microsoft.a is Alex_Li
20:01:34 <Zakim> +Alex_Li; got it
20:02:21 <Zakim> +Katie_Haritos-Shea
20:02:39 <Zakim> +[Oracle]
20:02:43 <Zakim> + +1.512.423.aaaa
20:03:01 <Zakim> +Judy
20:03:02 <MichaelC> zakim, aaaa is Andi_Snow-Weaver
20:03:02 <Zakim> +Andi_Snow-Weaver; got it
20:03:10 <MichaelC> zakim, Oracle is Peter_Korn
20:03:10 <Zakim> +Peter_Korn; got it
20:03:30 <Andi> Andi has joined #wai-wcag
20:03:57 <Zakim> + +1.206.544.aabb
20:04:32 <MichaelC> zakim, aabb is Robin_Tuttle
20:04:32 <Zakim> +Robin_Tuttle; got it
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20:04:55 <Zakim> +Loretta_Guarino_Reid
20:04:57 <MichaelC> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2012AprJun/0014.html
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20:06:22 <MichaelC> zakim, Microsoft is Cherie_Ekholm
20:06:22 <Zakim> +Cherie_Ekholm; got it
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20:07:16 <Zakim> +Marc_Johlic
20:09:17 <marcjohlic> scribe:  marcjohlic
20:09:53 <marcjohlic> TOPIC: WCAG2ICT Task Force Work Statement
20:09:56 <MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20120412TF/results
20:10:21 <Zakim> +Moe
20:11:00 <MichaelC> zakim, Moe is Maureen_Kraft
20:11:00 <Zakim> +Maureen_Kraft; got it
20:11:19 <Zakim> -Bruce_Bailey
20:11:56 <Loretta> q+
20:12:02 <Zakim> +Bruce_Bailey
20:12:24 <Loretta> q-
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20:17:59 <korn> q+
20:18:40 <Zakim> +Gregg_Vanderheiden
20:18:53 <marcjohlic> Dependencies section - whom is dependent on whom?
20:19:15 <marcjohlic> JB:  Mutual dependencies between those groups listed and us
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20:21:06 <Ryladog> q+
20:21:13 <korn> q-
20:22:00 <Judy> q+
20:22:10 <greggvanderheiden> q+
20:22:11 <Ryladog> ack Katie
20:22:35 <korn> q+
20:23:14 <Judy> zakim, who's making noise?
20:23:15 <MichaelC> zakim, Ryladog is Katie
20:23:15 <Zakim> sorry, MichaelC, I do not recognize a party named 'Ryladog'
20:23:16 <Andi> zakim, who is on the phone?
20:23:16 <Zakim> On the phone I see Cooper, Andrew_Kirkpatrick, Cherie_Ekholm, Alex_Li, Katie_Haritos-Shea, Peter_Korn, Andi_Snow-Weaver, Judy, Robin_Tuttle, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Marc_Johlic,
20:23:20 <Zakim> ... Maureen_Kraft, Bruce_Bailey (muted), Gregg_Vanderheiden
20:23:25 <Zakim> Judy, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Gregg_Vanderheiden (19%), Andi_Snow-Weaver (19%), Maureen_Kraft (30%)
20:23:27 <MichaelC> zakim, Katie is Ryladog
20:23:28 <Zakim> +Ryladog; got it
20:23:51 <Andi> zakim, mute me
20:23:51 <Zakim> Andi_Snow-Weaver should now be muted
20:26:13 <Ryladog> q-
20:26:18 <Judy> ack j
20:26:26 <Loretta> ack k
20:26:41 <korn> q-
20:28:30 <Loretta> ack g
20:29:39 <Judy> q+
20:30:08 <MichaelC> q+ Cherie
20:30:08 <Loretta> q+ alex
20:31:05 <greggvanderheiden> q+
20:31:15 <Loretta> ack  j
20:34:39 <Judy> q+
20:35:09 <MichaelC> ack alex
20:35:10 <Judy> q?
20:35:15 <Loretta> q+
20:36:42 <Loretta> ack cherie
20:38:04 <Judy> http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/2010/06/charter#scope
20:41:26 <Zakim> -Cooper
20:41:50 <Zakim> +Cooper
20:41:58 <Andi> q+
20:44:09 <Loretta> ack g
20:45:21 <Zakim> -Bruce_Bailey
20:46:00 <Zakim> +Bruce_Bailey
20:47:36 <Zakim> -Cooper
20:48:03 <Zakim> +??P4
20:49:11 <Zakim> +David_MacDonald
20:51:18 <Judy> q+
20:52:35 <Andi> q-
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20:58:13 <greggvanderheiden> q+
20:58:22 <Loretta> ack  j
20:58:30 <Ryladog> +1
21:05:43 <marcjohlic> ACTION ITEM Judy to Explore who would be on the task force and whether they need to join WCAG or just sign the agreement to participate
21:05:43 <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - ITEM
21:06:00 <marcjohlic> action Judy toExplore who would be on the task force and whether they need to join WCAG or just sign the agreement to participate
21:06:01 <trackbot> Created ACTION-169 - ToExplore who would be on the task force and whether they need to join WCAG or just sign the agreement to participate [on Judy Brewer - due 2012-04-19].
21:12:17 <MichaelC> action: alex to make proposals for how other groups will interface with the WCAG2ICT TF
21:12:17 <trackbot> Created ACTION-170 - Make proposals for how other groups will interface with the WCAG2ICT TF [on Alex Li - due 2012-04-19].
21:12:51 <Loretta> q?
21:13:02 <Loretta> ack l
21:13:43 <korn> q+
21:16:11 <Loretta> ack k
21:16:56 <MichaelC> q+
21:18:54 <MichaelC> q+ to say I wasn't talking about the concept of conformance, I was talking about the specific "conformance requirements" which are numbered items much like the success criteria, and include critical things like accessibility support, non-interference, complete processes, etc.
21:18:59 <korn> q+
21:19:20 <Loretta> ack g
21:21:29 <Loretta> ack m
21:21:29 <Zakim> MichaelC, you wanted to say I wasn't talking about the concept of conformance, I was talking about the specific "conformance requirements" which are numbered items much like the
21:21:33 <Zakim> ... success criteria, and include critical things like accessibility support, non-interference, complete processes, etc.
21:21:37 <MichaelC> http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20/#conformance-reqs
21:22:10 <Loretta> ack k
21:23:13 <greggvanderheiden> q+
21:23:29 <MichaelC> q+ to suggest an "as appropriate" rider
21:23:37 <Judy> q+
21:23:40 <Andi> q+ to speak to Peter's concern about promising we will cover conformance
21:24:31 <Andi> ack g
21:25:53 <Andi> zakim, unmute me
21:25:53 <Zakim> Andi_Snow-Weaver should no longer be muted
21:25:54 <korn> I can go longer
21:28:01 <Loretta> ack a
21:28:01 <Zakim> Andi, you wanted to speak to Peter's concern about promising we will cover conformance
21:28:16 <korn> Andi - I'm happy to go further than that - that we promise to explore it, and have the ability to address it as we want.
21:28:43 <MichaelC> ack me
21:28:43 <Zakim> MichaelC, you wanted to suggest an "as appropriate" rider
21:29:21 <Loretta> q+
21:29:45 <Zakim> -Andi_Snow-Weaver
21:29:49 <Loretta> ack j
21:30:14 <greggvanderheiden> q+
21:30:23 <Loretta> ack l
21:31:05 <korn> q+
21:31:15 <Loretta> Need language to distinguish conformance requirements from the broader issue of conformance.
21:31:21 <Loretta> ack g
21:31:34 <Loretta> q+ david
21:31:42 <Loretta> ack k
21:32:48 <Loretta> ack d
21:32:50 <Zakim> -Robin_Tuttle
21:34:04 <marcjohlic> E-mail specific suggestion to Judy.  People can also update their surveys and Judy will check there as well.
21:34:35 <korn> q+
21:35:06 <Loretta> ack k
21:37:51 <David> q+
21:40:24 <marcjohlic> action: korn to update first paragraph under "Approach" section per Michael's comment.
21:40:24 <trackbot> Created ACTION-171 - Update first paragraph under "Approach" section per Michael's comment. [on Peter Korn - due 2012-04-19].
21:40:42 <Loretta> ack d
21:40:50 <korn> Hey trackbot - I'm also working on proposed text related to "conformance" 
21:42:57 <korn> q+
21:44:03 <Loretta> ack k
21:44:32 <Loretta> q+
21:45:13 <Loretta> ack l
21:48:42 <Loretta> ack b
21:53:53 <korn> q+
21:56:54 <Judy> q?
21:58:19 <Loretta> q+
21:59:38 <Loretta> ack me
22:00:37 <Loretta> ack k
22:00:58 <korn> q-
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22:01:17 <Zakim> -Ryladog
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22:01:20 <Zakim> -Loretta_Guarino_Reid
22:01:20 <Zakim> -Alex_Li
22:01:21 <Zakim> -Cherie_Ekholm
22:01:21 <Zakim> -Peter_Korn
22:01:22 <Zakim> -David_MacDonald
22:01:23 <Zakim> -Judy
22:01:25 <Zakim> -Bruce_Bailey
22:01:26 <Zakim> -Gregg_Vanderheiden
22:01:33 <Zakim> -Marc_Johlic
22:01:34 <Zakim> WAI_WCAG()4:00PM has ended
22:01:34 <Zakim> Attendees were Cooper, Andrew_Kirkpatrick, Bruce_Bailey, Alex_Li, Katie_Haritos-Shea, +1.512.423.aaaa, Judy, Andi_Snow-Weaver, Peter_Korn, +1.206.544.aabb, Robin_Tuttle,
22:01:35 <Zakim> ... Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Cherie_Ekholm, Marc_Johlic, Maureen_Kraft, Gregg_Vanderheiden, Ryladog, Michael_Cooper, David_MacDonald
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22:38:12 <MichaelC> chair: Loretta_Guarino_Reid
22:38:16 <MichaelC> rrsagent, make minutes
22:38:16 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/04/12-wai-wcag-minutes.html MichaelC
22:43:38 <MichaelC> rrsagent, bye
22:43:38 <RRSAgent> I see 2 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2012/04/12-wai-wcag-actions.rdf :
22:43:38 <RRSAgent> ACTION: alex to make proposals for how other groups will interface with the WCAG2ICT TF [1]
22:43:38 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/04/12-wai-wcag-irc#T21-12-17
22:43:38 <RRSAgent> ACTION: korn to update first paragraph under "Approach" section per Michael's comment. [2]
22:43:38 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/04/12-wai-wcag-irc#T21-40-24
22:43:40 <MichaelC> zakim, bye
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