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16:00:16 <Zakim> ok, trackbot, I see HTML_WG()12:00PM already started
16:00:17 <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
16:00:17 <trackbot> Date: 05 April 2012
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16:00:39 <krisk> Zakim, Microsoft is krisk
16:00:39 <Zakim> +krisk; got it
16:00:56 <Zakim> +Sam
16:00:57 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
16:00:59 <MikeSmith> Zakim, call Mike
16:01:00 <Zakim> ok, MikeSmith; the call is being made
16:01:00 <Zakim> +Mike
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16:01:09 <eliot> zakim, microsoft has me
16:01:09 <Zakim> +eliot; got it
16:01:16 <Zakim> +Radhika_Roy
16:01:26 <Zakim> +??P9
16:01:33 <janina> zakim, ??P9 is Janina
16:01:33 <Zakim> +Janina; got it
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16:02:08 <Zakim> +??P8
16:02:25 <Zakim> + +49.251.280.aabb
16:02:36 <Julian> Zakim, +49.251.280.aabb is me
16:02:36 <Zakim> +Julian; got it
16:02:41 <Julian> Zakim, mute me
16:02:41 <Zakim> Julian should now be muted
16:02:43 <Zakim> + +1.858.735.aacc
16:02:43 <glenn> zakim, ??p8 is glenn
16:02:44 <Zakim> +glenn; got it
16:02:55 <Zakim> +[Microsoft.a]
16:03:02 <hober> Zakim, aaaa is me
16:03:02 <Zakim> +hober; got it
16:03:13 <KevinStreeter> zakim, I am +1.858.735.aacc
16:03:13 <Zakim> +KevinStreeter; got it
16:03:28 <paulc> zakim, who is on the phone?
16:03:28 <Zakim> On the phone I see joesteele, krisk, hober, [Microsoft], Sam, Mike, Radhika_Roy, Janina, glenn (muted), Julian (muted), KevinStreeter, [Microsoft.a]
16:03:31 <Zakim> [Microsoft] has eliot
16:03:31 <rubys> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2012AprJun/0001.html
16:03:38 <krisk> Scribe: krisk
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16:03:46 <paulc> zakim, [Microsoft.a] has paulc
16:03:46 <Zakim> +paulc; got it
16:03:46 <krisk> Chair: rubys
16:03:57 <krisk> ACTION items due by Thursday, April 5
16:03:57 <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - items
16:04:09 <krisk> items due by Thursday, April 5
16:04:14 <krisk> None
16:04:16 <Zakim> +[Microsoft.aa]
16:04:25 <krisk> New Issues This Week
16:04:28 <adrianba> zakim, [Microsoft.aa] is me
16:04:28 <Zakim> +adrianba; got it
16:04:29 <krisk> None
16:04:35 <krisk> Items Closed Last Week
16:04:45 <krisk> A number...
16:04:51 <krisk> ISSUE-80: title-alternative, Call for Consensus closed Mar 28
16:04:51 <trackbot> ISSUE-80 document conformance and device dependent display of title attribute content notes added
16:04:59 <krisk> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0603.html
16:05:18 <krisk> ISSUE-134: tab-states, Revise Change Proposals closed Mar 28
16:05:18 <trackbot> ISSUE-134 Provide tablist and tab states for menu and command elements respectively notes added
16:05:26 <krisk> see -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0547.html
16:05:32 <krisk> ISSUE-191: ins-del, Revise Change Proposals closed Mar 28
16:05:32 <trackbot> ISSUE-191 Replace/complement <ins> and <del> elements by a cleaner wysiwyg-safe attribute-based solution notes added
16:05:47 <krisk> issue has been postponed - http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0128.html
16:05:52 <krisk> ISSUE-200: legend-placement, Call for Counter Proposals closed Mar 28
16:05:52 <trackbot> ISSUE-200 Allow wrapping LEGEND (or new iLEGEND) in non-FIELDSET elements notes added
16:05:59 <krisk>   http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0466.html
16:06:14 <krisk> two proposals have been submitted that the co-chairs will evaluate
16:06:21 <krisk> ISSUE-193: inaccessible-example, Call for Consensus closed Mar 29
16:06:21 <trackbot> ISSUE-193 Remove CSS example that promotes inaccessible content notes added
16:06:26 <krisk> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0687.html
16:06:33 <krisk> Resulted in a decision
16:06:40 <krisk> ISSUE-196: ua-http-resp-handling, Call for Consensus closed Mar 29
16:06:40 <trackbot> ISSUE-196 Define user agent http response handling behaviour notes added
16:06:45 <krisk> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0688.html
16:06:53 <krisk> This also resulted in a decision
16:06:59 <krisk> ISSUE-197: accept-file-ext, Call for Consensus closed Mar 29
16:06:59 <trackbot> ISSUE-197 Accept attribute should allow file extensions in addition to the current allowed values notes added
16:07:06 <krisk> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0689.html
16:07:13 <krisk> This also resulted in a decision
16:07:21 <krisk> ISSUE-203: media-descriptions, Revise Change Proposals closes Apr 2
16:07:21 <trackbot> ISSUE-203 All Media Elements should have the ability to have both short and longer textual descriptions associated to the element notes added
16:07:29 <krisk> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0550.html
16:07:47 <krisk> proposals have been updated, not actions taken
16:07:56 <rubys> s/have been/have not been/
16:08:11 <krisk> ISSUE-198: innerHTML-patent-policy, Call for Counter Proposals closes Apr 3
16:08:11 <trackbot> ISSUE-198 Ensure innerHTML and related APIs are subject to the W3C patent policy notes added
16:08:17 <krisk> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0222.html
16:08:57 <krisk> Later in the agenda we'll see a CfC for this issue
16:09:09 <krisk> Next Agenda Item - Items Closing This Week
16:09:21 <krisk> ISSUE-194: full-transcript, Call for Counter Proposals extension closes Apr 5
16:09:21 <trackbot> ISSUE-194 Provide a mechanism for associating a full transcript with an audio or video element. notes added
16:09:28 <krisk> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0685.html
16:09:38 <krisk> Next Agenda Item New Calls this week
16:10:01 <krisk> Actually the next agenda item is Items closing next week
16:10:07 <krisk> ISSUE-201: canvas-fallback, Call for Counter Proposals extension     closes Apr 11
16:10:07 <trackbot> ISSUE-201 Provide canvas location and hit testing capability to fallback content notes added
16:10:12 <krisk> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0686.html
16:10:35 <krisk> Any questions or comments on the above?
16:11:03 <krisk> Agenda Item New Calls this week
16:11:11 <krisk> ISSUE-184: data-element, Call for Consensus closes Apr 11
16:11:11 <trackbot> ISSUE-184 Add a data element notes added
16:11:18 <krisk> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Apr/0026.html
16:11:34 <krisk> As mentioned above ISSUE-198: innerHTML-patent-policy, Call for Consensus closes Apr 11
16:11:45 <krisk>  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Apr/0025.html
16:11:55 <krisk> Next Agenda Item New Surveys this week
16:12:06 <krisk> We have one new survey this week
16:12:11 <krisk> ISSUE-158: object-content-model - Straw Poll for Objections
16:12:11 <trackbot> ISSUE-158 HTML4's content-model for <object> should continue notes added
16:12:17 <krisk>  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0784.html
16:12:38 <krisk> Next up is 'Decisions this week'
16:12:58 <krisk> ISSUE-80 Working Group Decision
16:13:03 <krisk> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0785.html
16:13:11 <krisk> ISSUE-191 Postponed
16:13:17 <krisk> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0783.html
16:13:29 <krisk> ISSUE-193 Working Group Decision
16:13:33 <krisk> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0786.html
16:13:41 <krisk> The CfC passed
16:13:46 <krisk> ISSUE-196 Working Group Decision
16:13:50 <krisk> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0787.html
16:14:08 <krisk> This also passed the CfC
16:14:18 <krisk> ISSUE-197 Working Group Decision
16:14:22 <krisk> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0788.html
16:14:30 <krisk> This also passed a CfC
16:14:46 <krisk> Next Up Is Task Force Reports
16:15:04 <krisk> Accessibility Task Force Update
16:15:18 <krisk> We conitune to work on issues
16:16:05 <krisk> key item might ask a postpone on issue 201
16:16:24 <krisk> would like to discuss this at the F2F in May
16:16:56 <krisk> The hope and expectations is that in the F2F we can agree on a resolution that works for everyone in the group
16:17:11 <paulc> See http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/May2012Agenda#Agenda_May_3
16:17:15 <krisk> A good time would be on thursday afternoon at the F2F to discuss
16:17:45 <krisk> Sam - are you asking for an extension of postponment?
16:18:00 <krisk> Janina - we are asking for an extension
16:18:03 <rubys> s/extension of/extension or/
16:18:31 <krisk> Next Update Testing Task Force
16:18:47 <krisk> We will meet April 10th 
16:19:03 <krisk> Microsoft submitted some range/progress tests 
16:19:20 <krisk> See -> http://www.w3c-test.org/html/tests/submission/Microsoft/range/range.htm
16:19:27 <krisk> See -> http://www.w3c-test.org/html/tests/submission/Microsoft/progress/progress.htm
16:19:55 <krisk> James and Mike Smith have mirrored the Hg Repository to Git
16:20:11 <krisk> See -> https://github.com/w3c/html-testsuite
16:20:28 <krisk> The hope is that this helps people participate and review tests more effectively
16:20:38 <MikeSmith> q+ to say that I need some help setting up the secure ports for Jetty (for WebSockets testing)
16:20:52 <krisk> The git hub is read-only so it's only one way
16:21:09 <rubys> ack next
16:21:11 <Zakim> MikeSmith, you wanted to say that I need some help setting up the secure ports for Jetty (for WebSockets testing)
16:22:21 <krisk> Webapps related - mike smith could use some help with the websocket server setup (secure ports)
16:22:38 <krisk> Any other questions for the testing task force?
16:23:10 <krisk> Next Up Is any other business
16:23:25 <krisk> Call for agenda topics for May face-to-face meeting
16:23:30 <krisk> Please update the wiki 
16:23:36 <krisk> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Apr/0006.html
16:23:38 <rubys> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/May2012Agenda
16:23:49 <krisk> Next up is the CfC: Create Media Task Force
16:23:56 <krisk>    http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Apr/0007.html
16:24:13 <krisk> This closes on tues April 10th
16:24:24 <krisk> Heartbeat Documents Published
16:24:31 <krisk> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0774.html
16:24:50 <krisk> Thanks Mike Smith!
16:25:00 <krisk> Next Up Is ISSUE 134: change proposal review
16:25:11 <krisk> Two proposals 
16:25:12 <krisk> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0781.html
16:25:17 <krisk> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0782.html
16:25:27 <krisk> Open Web Platform Weekly Summary - 2012-03-19 - 2012-03-25
16:25:46 <krisk> This covers business beyond HTML5, for example WebApps
16:25:52 <krisk> http://www.w3.org/QA/2012/03/openweb-weekly-30.html
16:26:21 <krisk> Any other business that people would like to discuss?
16:26:38 <krisk> None mentioned
16:26:51 <krisk> Scribe for next meeting?
16:27:17 <krisk> hober would like to scribe
16:27:28 <Zakim> -Radhika_Roy
16:27:30 <krisk> Adjournment
16:27:36 <Zakim> -Janina
16:27:37 <Zakim> -hober
16:27:38 <Zakim> -[Microsoft]
16:27:40 <Zakim> -KevinStreeter
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16:27:42 <Zakim> -Sam
16:27:45 <Zakim> -[Microsoft.a]
16:27:46 <Zakim> -adrianba
16:27:48 <Zakim> -joesteele
16:27:48 <Zakim> -glenn
16:27:50 <krisk> RRSAgent, make logs public
16:27:55 <Zakim> -Julian
16:27:59 <krisk> rrsagent, generate minutes
16:27:59 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/04/05-html-wg-minutes.html krisk
16:28:52 <MikeSmith> krisk: 
16:29:02 <MikeSmith> 2012-04-05 16:27:46.176:WARN:oejuc.AbstractLifeCycle:FAILED SslContextFactory@61c80b01(keystore.chain,keystore.chain): java.io.FileNotFoundException: /opt/
16:29:02 <MikeSmith> jetty/webapps/echo-test/keystore.chain (No such file or directory)
16:29:03 <MikeSmith> java.io.FileNotFoundException: /opt/jetty/webapps/echo-test/keystore.chain (No such file or directory)
16:29:22 <MikeSmith> missing "keystore.chain" file
16:29:27 <krisk> OK this helps
16:30:08 <krisk> I'll take a peek on my end and see what needs to be done
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16:34:29 <Zakim> -Mike
16:34:37 <Zakim> -krisk
16:34:39 <Zakim> HTML_WG()12:00PM has ended
16:34:39 <Zakim> Attendees were joesteele, +1.619.846.aaaa, krisk, Sam, Mike, eliot, Radhika_Roy, Janina, Julian, +1.858.735.aacc, glenn, [Microsoft], hober, KevinStreeter, paulc, adrianba
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21:47:32 <CIA-1> validator: 03Michael[tm] Smith <mike@w3.org> * 9d445b55306e r434 10validator/src/nu/validator/messages/MessageEmitterAdapter.java: Don't emit info-level messages in gnu output.
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