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SH: need to decide on the title
... preferences?
PT: "Mobile Accessibility" is good enough
... no need for "web" in there
... clear because W3C event
... want to include web apps too
<markel> I agree with Peter
SLH: no strong feelings
SAZ: no strong feelings
RESOLUTION: symposium topic is "Mobile Accessibility"
<shawn> SAZ: one more open issue with template
<peter> Template URL: http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/wiki/Paper_Template
[[ the previous work that the proposed approach based on;
the problem that was addressed;
the major hurdles found in the process;
the main outcomes, lessons learned, and mistakes made;
the future perspectives opened with this work. ]]
SAZ: need a customized one for this particular topic
PT: copy & paste error too
SH: sequences seems to be different but questions
may map
... for example switch around 1st & 2nd in the cfp
... only strategy seems to be non-matching
<shawn> saz: ... general approach similar between topics, but make sure any customized wording matches between CfP & template
SH: template can be changed around a little to match CFP
<peter> Yup sounds good i. generic to custom template, ii. consistency between temp ate and call.
SH: will work on it
... change the ordering and align the wording
<peter> Thanks Simon! Happy to help if needed.
<Zakim> shawn, you wanted to note dates seem wrong between http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/wiki/Mobile_Topic_Timeline & http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/wiki/Mobile#Important_Dates
SLH: mismatch of dates
SH: will fix these too
... note the uneven dates for week 7, 5, and 3
... needed more time for paper review
SH: SAZ was going to look into possible options
SAZ: still open action
<Zakim> shawn, you wanted to say haven't worked on proceedings package yet
SLH: looking into proceedings package too
<shawn> SAZ: I have latest draft from editors. Approach for papers might change. open action to put in W3C Note format.
<shawn> Text Customization http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/wiki/Text_Customization
SH: want to start getting this topic on our
radars
... Text Customization
SLH: have been refining the scope
... balancing broadening approach versus stay focused on the particular issue
<peter> (would like to skim it)
SLH: main focus is users with low vision, dyslexia, and others who need to customize the text
<shawn> oops -- changes to scope didn't get saved! :(
<shawn> look at this page instead: http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/wiki/Text_Customization_Symposium_draft_page
SH: propose this as topic 3, would like people's
thoughts on this
... need to be cautious of august
... what do people think of the topic?
<markel> sounds good to me
PT: would be very useful topic
<shawn> SAZ: important topic. have some editorial comments. overall idea & approach seems fine.
MV: sound approach
... but title may be misleading
... readibility and legibility may be keywords too
... or adaptations
<Zakim> shawn, you wanted to point to title ideas: http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/wiki/Text_Customization#Text_Customization_Topic_Proposal
SLH: welcome suggestions, have some other title ideas
SH: could play with sub-title too
<christos> problem with the mike
<christos> I agree with markel
<christos> maybe adaptive text...
<shawn> other ideas?
<christos> or something like that... because my mind went to fonts when I first saw the title
<markel> That is good
<christos> That's all
<peter> Three cheers for topic 3 (being this)
<sharper> +1 to topic 3
+1
<shawn> +1 :)
<markel> +1
<christos> +1
RESOLUTION: Text Customization is Topic 3
SLH: wanted a pre-call for mobile topic
... could try for this one
SH: want to give heads-up to Coordination Group
... could even announce during mobile accessibility symposium
... have time to discuss the timeline
... we are well ahead
SAZ: have a CG call today, can give them a
heads-up
... but let's work on getting them more involved
SH: yes, as previously discussed want to get more
direct input from them
... will send them messages directly
SH: worry that we may miss our planned goals for
the first year
... need to plan out the next topic timelines, even if we don't know the exact
topics yet
... just to have some group commitment
<peter> Sounds good
SAZ: sounds like a really good approach
... we also built lots of know-how in the first year
SH: talked about this approach a while ago
... want to drop it as we can't really do it in addition to all the other work
... incubator concept was to populate topics that we do not address
... rather than leave them dangling
... anybody can add to the wiki topics
... but don't see that ocurring just yet
PT: agree with simon
... even mobile sympsoium did not get much contribution
... can only do certain amount of work
... then needs chair and W3C staff to do the final reviews
<shawn> SAZ: in principle, agree with peter. however...
<shawn> ... maybe not completly drop it, yet look at reduced version for if we do have contributors in the future
<shawn> ... WG maybe do light-weight review
<shawn> for formal approval, but gettting some WG perspecgives
SH: question is we can develop them to a certain
standard
... then toss them to other groups
SAZ: agree with the idea
... but maybe not focus on a particular group
SH: ok, want to keep as an issue to keep coming back to it
ISSUE: shelf the Incubator concept for now until we can get better resources
<trackbot> Created ISSUE-1 - Shelf the Incubator concept for now until we can get better resources ; please complete additional details at http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/tracker/issues/1/edit .
SH: every so often there is a face-to-face
meeting
... needs travel support
<shawn> TPAC 2012 http://www.w3.org/2012/10/TPAC/ 29 October - 2 November 2012, Lyon, France
<shawn> SAZ: meet f2f, also with other groups. logistics provided.
<shawn> ... e.g., can talk with mobile WG
<sharper> 29 October through 2 November 2012
<sharper> Lyon, France at the Cité Centre de Congrès de Lyon
SH: need to confirm group meeting by 30 April
... involves travel costs
<shawn> SAZ: f2f particulalry useful for WGs developing spec. here we are somehwat diff group. huge benefit is group building
<markel> sorry guys, I've to leave
<shawn> ... increasing output & effectiveness of group
<Zakim> shawn, you wanted to say conf
<markel> talk to you soon
SLH: maybe try to do more meetups at conferences
rather than one f2f
... people already travel around quite a bit
PT: agree that face time is really important