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14:56:41 <Zakim> +??P8
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15:01:59 <Zakim> +Mark_Vickers
15:02:08 <Zakim> +??P19
15:02:20 <glenn> zakim, ??p19 is glenn
15:02:20 <Zakim> +glenn; got it
15:02:43 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
15:02:52 <Zakim> +David_Corvoysier
15:02:53 <Dewa> zakim, ??P8 is Dewa
15:02:54 <Zakim> +Dewa; got it
15:03:02 <Zakim> +Jan_Lindquist
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15:03:49 <ph> zakim, call philipp-home
15:03:49 <Zakim> ok, ph; the call is being made
15:03:50 <Zakim> +Philipp
15:04:04 <Zakim> + +1.408.475.aaaa
15:04:05 <ph> zakim, who is here?
15:04:06 <Zakim> On the phone I see Dewa, ??P5, Mark_Vickers, glenn, [IPcaller], David_Corvoysier, Jan_Lindquist, Philipp, +1.408.475.aaaa
15:04:06 <Zakim> On IRC I see JanL, ph, David_Corvoysier, Mark_Vickers, giuseppe, yosuke, glenn, Paul-ATT, RRSAgent, Zakim, kaz, Dewa, masao, timeless, trackbot
15:04:25 <Zakim> +Juhani
15:04:46 <yosuke> zakim, ??P5 is yosuke
15:04:46 <Zakim> +yosuke; got it
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15:05:07 <giuseppe> zakim, pick a victim
15:05:07 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Jan_Lindquist
15:05:47 <giuseppe> chair: giuseppe
15:05:59 <ph> scribe: jan
15:06:10 <ph> scribe: janl
15:06:17 <giuseppe> agenda: http://www.w3.org/mid/op.wbzs51w36ugkrk@giuseppep-x220
15:06:37 <JanL> liaison letter topic is first
15:06:41 <giuseppe> http://www.w3.org/mid/op.wbzrdelr6ugkrk@giuseppep-x220
15:06:44 <JanL> to be discussed
15:06:54 <ph> Topic: OIPF Liaison letter
15:07:03 <JanL> what was discussed is summarized
15:07:16 <JanL> plus status of the w3c drafts
15:07:55 <JanL> extend bugzilla to external groups
15:07:59 <Zakim> +John_Simmons
15:08:12 <JanL> in order to give input like requirements to influence the work to the WG
15:08:31 <JanL> webtv would then facilitate this input
15:09:19 <JanL> there was comments on the proposal 
15:09:30 <JanL> the comments was positive
15:09:41 <JanL> any further comments can be forwarded to giuseppe
15:09:55 <JanL> next issue are the bugzilla raised issues
15:10:14 <JanL> group brings up the requirements that is input to the profile
15:10:47 <JanL> david raised issues
15:10:58 <giuseppe> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=16479
15:11:10 <giuseppe> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=16480
15:11:36 <JanL> he has issues with the template that there is alot of areas to fill in
15:11:44 <JanL> it will take time to go through
15:13:16 <JanL> caching of video objects is implied
15:13:25 <JanL> "finish on hold message"
15:14:15 <JanL> for sake of optimization html spec should clarify garbage collected of content 
15:14:22 <Mark_Vickers> Perhapsnext time the hold voice comes on, we should be quiet and zakim should listen so we can hang it up.
15:14:44 <JanL> wording in specification may address the issue
15:15:08 <JanL> giuseppe comment is a valid input that it is worth discussing in mptf
15:16:01 <JanL> using bugzilla will facilitate moving issues like these to the other Task Force
15:16:16 <JanL> only issue with profile is that this is not new for desktop
15:16:18 <Zakim> -John_Simmons
15:16:30 <JanL> gius this is meant for platform indep
15:16:54 <Zakim> +John_Simmons
15:16:57 <JanL> once there is a draft text then it can be used as input to the profile
15:17:13 <JanL> better input if taken in mptf
15:17:29 <JanL> not to mix both task force
15:17:44 <JanL> bugzilla will be used by all TF's in webtv
15:18:13 <JanL> mptf has regular phone conferences, every Thursday 
15:18:59 <JanL> next bug being discussed
15:19:28 <JanL> epg mozaic overlayed on video
15:19:59 <JanL> easier to use the image map
15:20:07 <JanL> but not allowed on video element
15:20:27 <JanL> this should be discussed in mptf
15:21:06 <JanL> is conclusion is that if we only need guidelines then we collect them in profile
15:21:37 <JanL> gius conclusion move it to mptf
15:22:04 <JanL> finished with agenda
15:22:19 <JanL> giuseppe moderates the input from teh group
15:22:30 <JanL> the group needs to provide the input as to what should be included
15:22:37 <JanL> without input there is nothing to be discussed
15:22:48 <JanL> do people agree with approach?
15:23:03 <JanL> mark says that this makes sense
15:23:29 <JanL> although input may take longer
15:23:54 <JanL> +
15:24:09 <JanL> bugzilla will be used to control the input
15:25:31 <JanL> jan comment that using bugzilla makes sense and will help facilitate the work and all the input
15:25:51 <JanL> mobile core platform is defining profiles
15:26:13 <JanL> Glenn spoke
15:26:35 <JanL> they use wiki for collecting input to the draft
15:27:18 <JanL> the work is being done in the community group
15:27:26 <glenn> http://coremob.github.com/level-0/index.html
15:27:40 <glenn> https://raw.github.com/coremob/level-1/master/index.html
15:28:27 <JanL> gius may use similar approach to this group
15:28:36 <glenn> http://www.w3.org/community/coremob/wiki/Specs/Coremob_Level_0
15:28:50 <glenn> http://www.w3.org/community/coremob/wiki/Specs/Coremob_Level_1
15:28:57 <JanL> gius looking at css section
15:29:13 <JanL> outstanding point for people to provide input
15:30:03 <JanL> mark says which group does profile for web on a automobile
15:31:49 <JanL> meeting is closed without any more discussion points
15:32:02 <ph> zakim, list attendees
15:32:02 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been Mark_Vickers, glenn, [IPcaller], David_Corvoysier, Dewa, Jan_Lindquist, Philipp, +1.408.475.aaaa, Juhani, yosuke, John_Simmons
15:32:05 <glenn> http://www.w3.org/community/coremob/wiki/Related_Efforts
15:32:16 <JanL> call completed
15:32:19 <glenn> cites the Web & TV profile work
15:32:20 <Zakim> -Jan_Lindquist
15:32:21 <Zakim> -John_Simmons
15:32:21 <Zakim> -Mark_Vickers
15:32:25 <Zakim> -David_Corvoysier
15:32:26 <Zakim> - +1.408.475.aaaa
15:32:28 <ph> rrsagent, make minutes
15:32:28 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/04/02-webtv-minutes.html ph
15:32:29 <Zakim> -Dewa
15:32:29 <giuseppe> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:32:29 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/04/02-webtv-minutes.html giuseppe
15:32:30 <Zakim> -glenn
15:32:30 <Zakim> -Juhani
15:32:36 <Zakim> -yosuke
15:32:45 <yosuke> yosuke has left #webtv
15:32:47 <Zakim> -Philipp
15:32:48 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
15:32:51 <Zakim> -[IPcaller]
15:32:52 <Zakim> WEBT_Profile()11:00AM has ended
15:32:52 <Zakim> Attendees were Mark_Vickers, glenn, [IPcaller], David_Corvoysier, Dewa, Jan_Lindquist, Philipp, +1.408.475.aaaa, Juhani, yosuke, John_Simmons
15:32:53 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:32:53 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/04/02-webtv-minutes.html kaz
15:34:38 <kaz> Meeting: Profile TF Teleconf
15:34:45 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:34:45 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/04/02-webtv-minutes.html kaz
15:36:05 <giuseppe> kaz, will you send around the minutes or do you prefer I do
15:36:06 <giuseppe> ?
15:37:35 <giuseppe> zakim, IPCaller is me
15:37:36 <Zakim> sorry, giuseppe, I do not recognize a party named 'IPCaller'
15:37:46 <giuseppe> zakim, [IPCaller] is me
15:37:46 <Zakim> sorry, giuseppe, I do not recognize a party named '[IPCaller]'
15:39:53 <giuseppe> s/[IPcaller]/giuseppe
15:39:59 <giuseppe> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:39:59 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/04/02-webtv-minutes.html giuseppe
15:40:47 <giuseppe> s/+1.408.475.aaaa/Russell
15:40:55 <giuseppe> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:40:55 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/04/02-webtv-minutes.html giuseppe
15:41:26 <giuseppe> s/jan, janl/janL
15:41:28 <giuseppe> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:41:28 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/04/02-webtv-minutes.html giuseppe
15:43:34 <giuseppe> i/next issue are the bugzilla raised issues/Topic: new issues in Bugzilla
15:43:42 <giuseppe> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:43:42 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/04/02-webtv-minutes.html giuseppe
15:44:31 <giuseppe> i/next issue are the bugzilla /Topic: new issues in Bugzilla/
15:44:33 <giuseppe> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:44:33 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/04/02-webtv-minutes.html giuseppe
15:45:52 <giuseppe> i/giuseppe moderates the input/Topic: Profile work process/
15:45:55 <giuseppe> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:45:55 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/04/02-webtv-minutes.html giuseppe
15:46:26 <giuseppe> i/mobile core platform is defining profiles/Topic: AOB/
15:46:28 <giuseppe> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:46:28 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/04/02-webtv-minutes.html giuseppe
15:49:38 <giuseppe> Scibe: janL
15:49:43 <giuseppe> ScibeNick: janL
15:49:47 <giuseppe> ScribeNick: janL
15:49:52 <giuseppe> Scribe: janL
15:49:54 <giuseppe> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:49:54 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/04/02-webtv-minutes.html giuseppe
15:53:16 <giuseppe> zakim, bye
15:53:16 <Zakim> Zakim has left #webtv
15:57:26 <giuseppe> rrsagent, bye
15:57:26 <RRSAgent> I see no action items