14:49:56 RRSAgent has joined #mlw-lt 14:49:56 logging to http://www.w3.org/2012/03/29-mlw-lt-irc 14:49:58 RRSAgent, make logs world 14:49:58 Zakim has joined #mlw-lt 14:50:00 Zakim, this will be 14:50:00 I don't understand 'this will be', trackbot 14:50:01 Meeting: MultilingualWeb-LT Working Group Teleconference 14:50:01 dF has joined #mlw-lt 14:50:01 Date: 29 March 2012 14:50:14 scribe: DomJones 14:51:04 chair:df 14:52:01 chair:df 14:52:39 mihael has joined #mlw-lt 14:55:20 tadej would you mind joining us on the Got 14:55:25 GoTo 14:58:04 Scribe: DomJones_ 14:58:37 scribe:DomJones 14:58:45 scribe: DomJones 14:59:10 scribe: DomJones_ 14:59:37 philR has joined #mlw-lt 14:59:52 trackbot-ng, start telcon 14:59:52 Jirka has joined #mlw-lt 14:59:54 RRSAgent, make logs world 14:59:56 Zakim, this will be 14:59:56 I don't understand 'this will be', trackbot 14:59:57 Meeting: MultilingualWeb-LT Working Group Teleconference 14:59:57 Date: 29 March 2012 15:00:08 scribe: DomJones_ 15:00:08 Moritz has joined #mlw-lt 15:00:29 Jirko, are you joining the GoTo? Would you mind scribing 15:00:33 ?? 15:00:48 Dom and I are having issues with making the bots work.. 15:01:56 Yves_ has joined #mlw-lt 15:02:30 Des has joined #mlw-lt 15:02:48 http://www.w3.org/2008/04/scribe.html 15:03:21 ..ScribeNick: NICKNAME 15:03:24 scribeNick: DomJones 15:03:33 scribeNick:DomJones_ 15:03:37 scribeNick: DomJones_ 15:03:42 ScribeNick: DomJones_ 15:04:06 Milan has joined #mlw-lt 15:04:19 ACTON: df to delete this action 15:04:36 ACTION: df to delete this action 15:04:36 Created ACTION-38 - Delete this action [on David Filip - due 2012-04-05]. 15:04:58 chair:dF 15:05:08 agenda:http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-multilingualweb-lt/2012Mar/0047.html 15:05:53 daveL has joined #mlw-lt 15:08:56 Arle has joined #mlw-lt 15:09:20 I never received the call-in details (I just checked). Can someone send them? 15:09:30 Present: dF, DavidL, Jirka, Mihael, Milan, Moritz, philR, Tadej, Yves_, DomJones, Des, Milan, 15:09:39 Regrets: Declan Groves 15:09:45 Arle: https://www3.gotomeeting.com/join/220653286 15:09:55 ... passcode is 54321 15:10:28 df: objections to the previous minutes? following meeting in luxembourg 15:10:51 df: lots of actions arised from luxembourg meeting. 15:11:35 df: lots of technical action items are in the minutes, dave L busy and Felix sick, David F only co-chair 15:12:03 df: next two weeks DaveL will be chairing meetings, felix will be away until early may. David F will chair meetings after easter 15:12:40 df: teleconferences will alternate between thursday evening and friday morning, bi-weekly. 15:13:06 df: next week meeting will be held on Friday morning 6th April 15:13:32 moritz: holiday in germany, german members will not be present 15:14:04 df: has sent goToMeeeting invites for both the Thursday and Friday meetings 15:14:58 df: task meetings / f-2-f events - closest one is in June, Dublin. 11-13th of June 2012. CFP is being prepared and will be distributed 15:15:15 domJones: Meeting regarding summer June meeting is planned for Monday 15:15:46 ACTION: DomJones to organise CFP conference call on Monday 15:15:46 Sorry, couldn't find user - DomJones 15:15:53 ACTION: DomJones_ to organise CFP conference call on Monday 15:15:53 Sorry, couldn't find user - DomJones_ 15:16:17 doates has joined #mlw-lt 15:16:45 Pedro has joined #mlw-lt 15:16:47 daveL: 11th+12th meeting will be MLW-LT meeting, whereas the 13th June will be a more MLW focused meeting based on one of the break-out sessions from Luxembourg 15:17:14 df: LOD Workshop will be co-chaired by Paul Beuier (SP) and Felix, although this may change 15:17:57 df: LOD Workshop will close requirements gathering process 15:18:27 df: Please look at questionnaire, which will close by the end of march, maybe prolong this for another couple of weeks 15:18:49 df: any objections? 15:18:58 daveL: how many responses have we had? 15:19:03 df: less than a dozen 15:19:46 mortiz: Drupcon in denver resulted in some interest about the questionnaire 15:20:21 ACTION: daveL to establish where the questionnaire responses are stored 15:20:21 Created ACTION-39 - Establish where the questionnaire responses are stored [on David Lewis - due 2012-04-05]. 15:21:26 df: please forward questionnaire to interesting contacts. Also draw your attention to Work in progress (point 5) everyone in the workgroup is able to add items into the req items 15:21:54 DomJones_: Arle is editing the requirements document 15:22:23 DaveL: Arle has done a great job tidying up and editing the req doc, are you happy to continue editing? 15:22:51 Arle: makes sense for me to edit high level content, if other members want to edit, go ahead... 15:23:06 df: the req doc is open to all, but arle is the "Gardener" 15:24:10 df: apart from reg calls and 2nd quater gathering meeting more general event schedulle exists for general "dissemination" 15:24:58 df: in Sept LRC conference will be going ahead in Ireland, cocomore will be at drupal con, etc. Important members keep an eye on this page and suggest trips 15:25:06 topic: deliverables 15:26:10 df: numbering of TOC only appears in the TOC not the body of the requirements. Can someone follow up on this 15:26:45 ACTION: DomJones_ to contact RI about item numbers in wiki page 15:26:45 Sorry, couldn't find user - DomJones_ 15:26:54 ACTION: DomJones to contact RI about item numbers in wiki page 15:26:54 Sorry, couldn't find user - DomJones 15:27:22 Pedro: Can you resend the questionnaire to all the members? 15:28:21 df: Can you find out who to talk to at GALA about distribution of this? Can Arle make contact with GALA and liase with Pedro to send the questionnaire to the GALA members 15:28:44 ACTION: Arle to contact GALA about distributing the req questionnaire to all GALA members 15:28:44 Created ACTION-40 - Contact GALA about distributing the req questionnaire to all GALA members [on Arle Lommel - due 2012-04-05]. 15:30:11 dF: We dont need every GALA member to respond, but more than we have now 15:30:25 dF: Aiming for the 17th of April 15:30:52 dF: We can also distribute to the XLIFF TPC 15:31:10 ACTION Yves_ to distributed link through XLIFF TPC 15:31:10 Sorry, couldn't find user - Yves_ 15:31:17 ACTION Yves_ to distributed link through XLIFF TPC 15:31:17 Sorry, couldn't find user - Yves_ 15:31:21 ACTION Yves to distributed link through XLIFF TPC 15:31:22 Created ACTION-41 - Distributed link through XLIFF TPC [on Yves Savourel - due 2012-04-05]. 15:32:09 daveL has joined #mlw-lt 15:32:33 Arle: If you want to take ownership of particular items please identify this in the table in the req document which lists everything in short form. Colum exists for "Owners" 15:33:19 daveL: Good idea which helps reviewing these tasks, anything without a name against it comes down to co-chairs and arle to follow up on 15:33:25 Arle and Df agree 15:33:55 dF: Action item to assure features between requirements are tracked, where should this exist? 15:34:09 daveL: Annex of draft rec or standards doc? 15:34:30 daveL: So everyone sees it, its small and compact? Keep peoples focus on a couple of docs. 15:34:48 dF: Any preferences, drafts doc or standards doc? 15:35:27 daveL: Once mature, supporting documentation will exist, have as annex then it can be extracted if needs be 15:35:46 df: mapping between req doc and data categories. 15:36:01 Pedro: Doc of req has become doc of data categories iteself 15:36:06 Arle agrees. 15:36:23 Arle: Felix wanted cross linking between tables, include something on requirements 15:36:33 Pedro: Maybe its not necessary ? 15:36:37 daveL agrees 15:37:18 dF: Owener of each requriement should check that theirs still exist 15:37:40 Arle: Items exist that are replicated and therefore may have been merged / deleted 15:38:33 dF: Everyone who had initial input in doc must check that their input exists and if not establish corrections. Appeals to group to check for their interests in the requirements 15:38:42 TOPIC: MD standards draft 15:39:13 dF: Felix was doing some work against normative and non-normative parts, please check and see if you agree with it against req docs 15:40:17 dF: Finally, open issues - Issue 2 has been closed, felix proposed resolution on issue 2, no resolution, hence closed. 15:40:51 dF: Details included in the issue tracker 15:41:29 daveL: Good proposal from Felix on Act2, later other issues will occur, but for now happy to close 15:41:44 dF: Any one have comments on remaining four issues? 15:42:18 dF: Need to look at scripting content. Its out of scope 15:42:48 daveL: Procedural issues - if an issue is not responded to in certain time frame, close anyway? 15:42:55 dF: No, not heard this 15:43:09 daveL: Discussed in a meeting, Yves, is this common practice? 15:43:26 Yves: No, keep open, not everything is disposed off 15:44:03 dF: This is a borderline case, scripting is not at core of charter, can be addressed non-normativly, keep open for now? 15:44:51 tadej: I opened an issue about Ontology / Taxonomy for defining topics and entity types, any opinions? 15:45:00 dF: Close issue on scripting, 15:46:14 Pedro: in LUX, and discussed in best-practices, decided that impl will be out of scope but still in best-practices we could discuss this, esp for real time translation system. 15:46:34 Pedro: Provide some general principles of concrete place with concrete client. 15:47:23 dF: We all agree its not in scope but could be included in best practices. How about priority on this, for issue tracking? 15:48:11 ACTION: Pedro to provide some input on the scripting issue 15:48:11 Created ACTION-42 - Provide some input on the scripting issue [on Pedro Luis Díez Orzas - due 2012-04-05]. 15:48:34 Pedro: Scripting maybe important in the CMS domain 15:48:41 Mortiz: Agrees 15:49:14 daveL: Suggest Pedro provides background on this in terms of other groups looking at internationalisation of scripting langs 15:49:22 Pedro: I dont know 15:49:49 dF closes discssion of issue 5 15:50:33 TOPIC: Ontology / Taxonomy for defining topics and entity types 15:51:28 tadej: This issue may get stuck / left behind for a while. 2 Options 15:52:05 daveL: Difficult subject - basic things that schema.org may have (micro-data, RDFa etc) its a difficult application dependant problem hard to nail down in standard 15:52:38 daveL: better off to identify term related to concept in a particular taxonomy where that taxonomy is referenced and the term itself is referenced. 15:52:53 daveL: Restrivtive to scope terms in a single ontology 15:53:22 tadej: Agree on this point but wants to emphasize on types, a person, scientist, etc should exist as an inventory. 15:53:52 tadej: Should be allowed to specify own types but also link to common model 15:55:01 daveL: Does this not overlap onto the issue to do with mapping to different types of schema? There are different referencing approaches to external meta-data depending on technology 15:55:07 I have to leave the call. Will pick up the final conversations from the minutes. 15:55:15 daveL: Jirka, do you have any comments on this? 15:55:56 tadej: Only concerned about this in terms on technical contrainsts, must be practical 15:56:20 daveL: its not a case of one approach but a pattern to have defualt set, in microdata, which we may adopt 15:56:47 dF: please continue discussions offline. 15:57:00 dF: Please also use [TAGS] in emails 15:57:32 df: Thanks to all, for discussion, participation, etc, calls will be chaired by Dave L for the next two weeks. Then David F, then Felix. 15:57:40 df: Closes meeting. 15:58:01 rssagent, generate minutes 15:58:02 bye 15:58:08 Jirka has left #mlw-lt 15:58:31 doates has left #mlw-lt 16:00:16 mihael has left #mlw-lt 16:05:30 RRSAgent, generate minutes 16:05:30 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/03/29-mlw-lt-minutes.html DomJones_ 17:31:23 Zakim has left #mlw-lt