14:01:09 RRSAgent has joined #gld 14:01:09 logging to http://www.w3.org/2012/03/29-gld-irc 14:01:11 RRSAgent, make logs world 14:01:13 Zakim, this will be GLD 14:01:13 ok, trackbot, I see T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM already started 14:01:14 Meeting: Government Linked Data Working Group Teleconference 14:01:14 Date: 29 March 2012 14:01:22 +[IPcaller] 14:01:44 zakim, ??P12 is me 14:01:44 +boris; got it 14:01:45 +lbermudez 14:01:48 BenediktKaempgen has joined #gld 14:01:53 zakim, who is on the call? 14:01:53 On the phone I see +1.757.604.aaaa, davidwood, boris, Mike_P, ??P16, ??P17, [LC], BenediktKaempgen, DaveReynolds, lbermudez 14:01:57 -??P16 14:02:01 hello! 14:02:09 zakim, aaaa is me 14:02:09 +GeraldSteeman; got it 14:02:10 +sandro 14:02:14 Zakim, [LC] is me 14:02:14 +tinagheen; got it 14:02:16 zakim, who's here? 14:02:18 zakim, aaaa is GeraldSteeman 14:02:19 On the phone I see GeraldSteeman, davidwood, boris, Mike_P, ??P17, tinagheen, BenediktKaempgen, DaveReynolds, lbermudez, sandro 14:02:22 On IRC I see BenediktKaempgen, RRSAgent, Mike_Pendleton, MartinKaltenboeck, Zakim, tinagheen, martin, GeraldSteeman, DaveReynolds, boris, bhyland, cgueret, BartvanLeeuwen, MacTed, 14:02:25 ... mhausenblas, trackbot, sandro 14:02:27 +??P16 14:02:30 sorry, bhyland, I do not recognize a party named 'aaaa' 14:02:45 zakim, ??p16 is me 14:02:45 +martin; got it 14:02:46 +??P25 14:02:47 hello? 14:02:50 lbermudez has joined #gld 14:02:57 Zakim, ??p25 is me 14:02:57 +BartvanLeeuwen; got it 14:03:11 zakim, who is on the call? 14:03:11 On the phone I see GeraldSteeman, davidwood, boris, Mike_P, ??P17, tinagheen, BenediktKaempgen, DaveReynolds, lbermudez, sandro, martin, BartvanLeeuwen 14:03:13 BenediktKaempgen has joined #gld 14:03:30 zakim, who's here? 14:03:30 On the phone I see GeraldSteeman, davidwood, boris, Mike_P, ??P17, tinagheen, BenediktKaempgen, DaveReynolds, lbermudez, sandro, martin, BartvanLeeuwen 14:03:34 On IRC I see BenediktKaempgen, lbermudez, RRSAgent, Mike_Pendleton, MartinKaltenboeck, Zakim, tinagheen, martin, GeraldSteeman, DaveReynolds, boris, bhyland, cgueret, 14:03:34 ... BartvanLeeuwen, MacTed, mhausenblas, trackbot, sandro 14:03:34 +??P26 14:03:56 +ZacharyWhitley 14:04:00 zakim, who's here? 14:04:00 On the phone I see GeraldSteeman, davidwood, boris, Mike_P, ??P17, tinagheen, BenediktKaempgen, DaveReynolds, lbermudez, sandro, martin, BartvanLeeuwen, ??P26, ZacharyWhitley 14:04:03 PhilA2 has joined #gld 14:04:03 On IRC I see BenediktKaempgen, lbermudez, RRSAgent, Mike_Pendleton, MartinKaltenboeck, Zakim, tinagheen, martin, GeraldSteeman, DaveReynolds, boris, bhyland, cgueret, 14:04:03 ... BartvanLeeuwen, MacTed, mhausenblas, trackbot, sandro 14:04:11 TOPIC: Preliminary Items 14:04:17 ZacharyWhitley has joined #gld 14:04:34 zakim, mute me 14:04:34 martin should now be muted 14:04:40 +??P33 14:05:19 Proposal: to accept the minutes from the 22-March-2012 meeting http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/meeting/2012-03-22 14:05:31 Yigal has joined #gld 14:06:05 Propose to accept minutes: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/meeting/2012-03-22 14:06:09 fadmaa has joined #gld 14:06:09 zakim, who is noisy? 14:06:13 zakim, who is talking? 14:06:27 boris, listening for 15 seconds I heard sound from the following: Mike_P (22%), GeraldSteeman (36%), davidwood (3%), DaveReynolds (60%) 14:06:33 very noisy here 14:06:40 zakim, who is talking? 14:06:46 bhyland, listening for 14 seconds I heard sound from the following: davidwood (13%) 14:06:47 zakim, mute DaveReynolds 14:06:48 DaveReynolds should now be muted 14:06:53 I was already muted 14:06:56 sandro, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: davidwood (68%) 14:07:02 +[IPcaller] 14:07:12 zakim, davidwood is me 14:07:13 +mhausenblas 14:07:13 +bhyland; got it 14:07:26 zakim, ipcaller is me 14:07:26 +Yigal; got it 14:07:49 +1 14:07:52 +1 14:07:54 +1 14:07:55 +1 14:08:04 resolution: accepted minutes 14:08:18 -cgueret 14:08:32 Discuss any important and timely matters and opportunities to liaise with other WG/CG/IG 14:08:32 Agenda: +1 Copenhagen event 14:08:36 +??P26 14:08:38 Thanks! 14:08:38 http://www.data-forum.eu/ 14:08:53 + +1.806.784.aabb 14:09:18 TOPIC: Main Agenda: W3C Transition Process, GeoLinkedData, update on FPWDs: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20120329 14:09:37 Four FPWD back 14:09:57 https://www.w3.org/Guide/ 14:09:59 rreck has joined #gld 14:10:01 What to expect in FPWD to Rec Track Process (Sandro) 14:10:05 Topic: Recommendation Track Process 14:10:32 Biplav has joined #gld 14:10:47 zakim, who is on the call? 14:10:47 On the phone I see GeraldSteeman, bhyland, boris, Mike_P (muted), ??P17, tinagheen, BenediktKaempgen, DaveReynolds (muted), lbermudez, sandro, martin (muted), BartvanLeeuwen, 14:10:51 Nice, thankgs for the link, sandro. 14:10:51 ... ZacharyWhitley, PhilA2, Yigal, mhausenblas, cgueret, +1.806.784.aabb 14:11:04 Need password... 14:11:14 +rreck 14:11:15 Sandro, I have access even though I'm an IE 14:11:17 zakim, Biplav is also on the call 14:11:17 I don't understand 'Biplav is also on the call', Biplav 14:11:18 Invited Experts may not be able to see page. 14:11:30 If you cannot see the "Art of Consensus" please indicate this to the chairs so we can try to organize access for you 14:11:42 no access either 14:12:01 Sandro will argue to make page open. 14:12:02 no access either 14:12:12 Sandro: Is going to request that this page be made public as there is nothing confidential in it 14:12:36 what is "the page" Sandro is talking about? 14:12:44 https://www.w3.org/Guide/ 14:12:46 thanks 14:13:03 http://services.w3.org/xslt?xmlfile=http://www.w3.org/2005/08/01-transitions.html&xslfile=http://www.w3.org/2005/08/transitions.xsl 14:13:05 nope, me neither. 14:13:18 this one is open 14:13:51 https://www.w3.org/2005/07/pubrules 14:13:54 That one's public, yes. 14:13:54 The Art of Consensus - https://www.w3.org/Guide/ This Guidebook is the collected wisdom of the W3C Group Chairs and other collaborators. 14:14:11 This resource describes the internal W3C Technical Report publication processes. 14:15:36 q+ to note that example.com as of RFC2606 http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2606 is also an exception 14:15:47 infrastructure is in place. Once you figure it out, publishing goes pretty quickly. 14:15:48 q? 14:16:04 ack me 14:16:04 mhausenblas, you wanted to note that example.com as of RFC2606 http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2606 is also an exception 14:16:51 Benedikt: use example.com 14:17:04 or example.org 14:17:06 The Data Cube draft will need editing for that then. 14:17:26 you can also use and subdomain of the (fictitious) TLD of example, i.e. foo.example is an OK domain name to use 14:17:30 Sandro: will need to run the checkers 14:18:03 s/you can also use and subdomain of the (fictitious) TLD of example, i.e. foo.example is an OK domain name to use/you can also use any subdomain of the (fictitious) TLD of example, i.e. foo.example is an OK domain name to use/ 14:18:10 Sandro: legalese applied and communicate with world about why are we doing this 14:19:08 Bernedette: Placing the work in context via abstract 14:19:34 Bernadette: Abstract should be solid 14:20:14 action: PhilA2 to work on the abstract of DCAT 14:20:14 Sorry, couldn't find user - PhilA2 14:20:23 action: Phil Archer to work on the abstract of DCAT 14:20:23 Created ACTION-60 - Archer to work on the abstract of DCAT [on Phil Archer - due 2012-04-05]. 14:21:09 folks -- please change your Pub Date to 3 April. 14:21:09 Action: each leader generate a revised abstract by 20120403 14:21:09 Sorry, couldn't find user - each 14:23:43 What's the changes to the abstracts? 14:24:00 ack me 14:24:26 http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/dcat/index.html 14:25:07 http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/dcat/index.html 14:25:14 Action: each DaveRenolds, Mike_Pendleton, generate a revised abstract by 20120403 14:25:14 Sorry, couldn't find user - each 14:25:21 I do not believe I am otherwise committed, if someone needs another set of eyes please let me know. 14:25:35 http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/29a3dd6dc12c/data-cube/index.html 14:25:38 http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/data-cube/index.html 14:25:54 *Failing at creating action... 14:27:11 *Thanks! 14:27:12 action: Dave Reynolds to generate revised abstract for Cube Vocab 14:27:12 Created ACTION-61 - Reynolds to generate revised abstract for Cube Vocab [on Dave Reynolds - due 2012-04-05]. 14:27:40 q? 14:28:07 http://mccarthy.dia.fi.upm.es/ppt/GEOEG.pdf 14:28:25 Topic: GeoLinkData Initiative 14:30:15 *Yes, you are correct. 14:30:45 action: Hausenblas to revise abstract of People vocab by 2012-04001 14:30:45 Created ACTION-62 - Revise abstract of People vocab by 2012-04001 [on Michael Hausenblas - due 2012-04-05]. 14:32:26 http://geovocab.org/doc/neogeo/ 14:32:58 UKARL 14:33:06 neogeo, karlsruhe 14:33:20 can i forward the slide URL to someone? 14:33:31 http://mccarthy.dia.fi.upm.es/ppt/GEOEG.pdf 14:34:03 KIT, Karlsruhe Institute of Technology (UKARL is not existing any more) 14:34:24 Thanks Benedikt 14:34:43 q? 14:35:12 q+ 14:35:25 Bernedette: where did funding come from? 14:35:37 q+ once Boris has finished but not before 14:35:56 ...are tools available from the project? 14:36:01 http://www.oeg-upm.net/index.php/en/downloads/151-geometry2rdf 14:36:11 Yes, it's available. 14:36:21 q? 14:36:24 ack me 14:38:03 q+ 14:39:26 http://oegdev.dia.fi.upm.es/projects/map4rdf/ 14:39:46 http://mccarthy.dia.fi.upm.es/goodrelations/#dashboard 14:41:01 http://mccarthy.dia.fi.upm.es:8181/map4rdf-0.0.3 14:41:22 good idea! 14:42:08 * with a billion countrymen? 14:42:38 +1 14:43:04 Thanks, Boris! 14:43:10 Thanks Boris 14:43:27 +q 14:43:48 indeed great work, can't wait to get started with the dutch dataset ;) 14:44:00 Bernedette: Nice tools, scripts. A great contribution to the world. 14:44:12 very nice work 14:45:28 Bernedette: Looking at integrating map4rdf at work. 14:45:40 +q 14:45:41 q? 14:45:43 q+ 14:45:50 *clap* 14:46:48 Biplav: Ease of use in ? 14:47:09 How easy to use geo LD by a transportation operator? 14:47:36 Boris: should be pretty easy. 14:49:16 Bernedette: Callimachus is template-driven. It looks like map4rdf can be integrated in a coupkle days and create a web 2.0 service. 14:49:18 q? 14:49:23 ack Biplav 14:49:51 Benedikt: document some use cases would be good. 14:50:27 Bernadette: Yes, please give some use cases to consider. 14:52:21 ack BenediktKaempgen 14:52:25 ack lbermudez 14:52:44 * Missing questions :( 14:53:31 @GeraldSteeman, you have the power of "Scribe Interupt" in your toolkit 14:53:41 *Okay. 14:54:20 ??: looking to gather data from many places. 14:55:10 *Too embarrassed, you mean. 14:55:12 ack me 14:55:34 Link: Look at Cross-Community Interoperability (CCI): Thread OWS-9 http://www.opengeospatial.org/projects/initiatives/ows-9 14:55:44 Phil: Status NeoGoe vocab. Is it a standard as yet? 14:55:55 Lots of kudos to GeoLinkedData brains trust, the Ontology Engineering Group and your sponsors. 14:56:24 Question 1: Are you using rules and how are you integrating different community models? 14:56:31 Really nice project from a cooperation perspective, both research & government, and international involvement. 14:56:32 +q to talk about NeoGeo as well a bit 14:57:19 PhilA: EU sponsored projects overlap with what NeoGeo and related projects Boris mentioned today. 14:58:01 +1 to PhilA2 suggestion 14:58:01 +1 for geo vocab 14:58:03 … Possible support from W3C for geospatial vocab based on work PhilA and Boris are separately involved with ... 14:58:05 q? 14:58:10 Phil: number of EC standards coming out. Hope that NeoGeo would be a W3C standard 14:58:14 +1 for Phil 14:58:31 +q 14:58:47 We do have this topic in our charter, see: optional: Geography, Spatial Information, such as latitude and longitude. Inputs include http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/geo/XGR-geo-ont/ the European http://inspire.jrc.ec.europa.eu/, and vocabulary elements of http://www.opengeospatial.org/projects/groups/geosparqlswg. (See http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/charter#coordination.) 14:59:10 +q 14:59:20 Phil: may be in good position with W3C based with option item in GLD charter. 15:00:01 https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/glossary/index.html 15:00:07 Bernedette: leaders please check your actions. 15:00:17 how can I contribute to the glossary Bernadette? 15:00:19 Also we *already* have a location vocab coming into the WG imminently - NeoGeo could be another input to create a combined vocab 15:00:29 TOPIC: LOD Glossary 15:00:31 Q about the glossary 15:00:58 TOPIC: Announcements 15:01:10 q? 15:01:19 AAAI-12, focus on "Semantic Cities". The idea of the workshop is to discuss open data and how semantics can provide a foundation to facilitate high-value analytics. See: http://research.ihost.com/semanticcities12/index.html 15:01:29 sorry have to jump out for another meeting - bye everybody 15:01:45 q- 15:01:46 @mhausenblas thanks for EDF2012 promo 15:01:48 cheers... 15:01:49 bye Matin 15:01:56 s/Matin/Martin 15:02:06 akc me 15:02:08 ack me 15:02:15 +q 15:02:16 ack lbermudez 15:02:40 mhausenblas, you wanted to talk about NeoGeo as well a bit 15:02:45 -??P17 15:02:59 ack lbermudez 15:03:26 Bart: A lot work and $$ in europe for linking data 15:03:38 -ZacharyWhitley 15:03:52 I unmuted 15:04:03 zakim, unmute Mike_Pendleton 15:04:03 sorry, PhilA2, I do not know which phone connection belongs to Mike_Pendleton 15:04:20 zakim, who is muted? 15:04:20 I see Mike_P, martin muted 15:04:20 zakim, unmute all 15:04:22 sorry, PhilA2, I do not know which phone connection belongs to all 15:04:24 zakim, unmute all 15:04:24 sorry, boris, I do not know which phone connection belongs to all 15:04:45 zakim, unmute Mike_P 15:04:45 Mike_P should no longer be muted 15:04:53 bye 15:05:10 -tinagheen 15:05:21 ok bye 15:05:24 Mike P: Are terms is glossary tied directly to documents? 15:05:28 -rreck 15:05:31 bye 15:05:34 thx bye ! 15:05:37 -sandro 15:05:37 Thanks, bye 15:05:38 -DaveReynolds 15:05:38 -PhilA2 15:05:40 Bernedette: no not that tight. 15:05:40 Bye! 15:05:42 Michael: did my action 15:05:44 martinAlvarez has left #gld 15:05:50 -BenediktKaempgen 15:05:52 -BartvanLeeuwen 15:05:53 -mhausenblas 15:05:55 -martin 15:05:59 -lbermudez 15:06:01 -boris 15:06:03 ACTION-62? 15:06:03 ACTION-62 -- Michael Hausenblas to revise abstract of People vocab by 2012-04001 -- due 2012-04-05 -- OPEN 15:06:03 http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/actions/62 15:06:11 close ACTION-62 15:06:11 ACTION-62 Revise abstract of People vocab by 2012-04001 closed 15:06:13 -Yigal 15:07:36 -bhyland 15:07:37 -GeraldSteeman 15:07:59 - +1.806.784.aabb 15:08:02 @Gerald, are you going to walk thru checklist now? 15:08:12 * Yes 15:08:16 http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20120329#Scribe.27s_End_of_Meeting_Checklist 15:08:32 If you get stuck, I'm standing by. 15:08:36 Thanks for scribing today 15:08:42 rrsagent, generate minutes 15:08:42 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/03/29-gld-minutes.html GeraldSteeman 15:10:11 RRSAgent, set logs world-visible 15:11:58 @bernadette, got an error with IRC copy log 15:12:10 PhilA2 has left #gld 15:12:12 yes, I see that .. let me try ... 15:12:14 RRSAgent, generate minutes 15:12:14 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/03/29-gld-minutes.html bhyland 15:12:51 It's working now. 15:13:00 yes. 15:13:29 Done. Minutes available on http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/meeting/2012-03-29 15:13:38 Thanks & have a nice day Gerald. 15:13:51 Right back at you! Thanks! 15:20:41 fadmaa has joined #gld 15:26:03 -Mike_P 15:35:00 disconnecting the lone participant, cgueret, in T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM 15:35:01 T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM has ended 15:35:01 Attendees were +1.757.604.aaaa, Mike_P, BenediktKaempgen, DaveReynolds, boris, lbermudez, GeraldSteeman, sandro, tinagheen, martin, BartvanLeeuwen, ZacharyWhitley, PhilA2, cgueret, 15:35:01 ... mhausenblas, bhyland, Yigal, +1.806.784.aabb, rreck 15:35:18 DaveReynolds has left #gld 17:31:22 Zakim has left #gld