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13:58:17 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be TTML
13:58:17 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see Vide_TTML()10:00AM scheduled to start in 2 minutes
13:58:18 <trackbot> Meeting: Timed Text Working Group Teleconference
13:58:18 <trackbot> Date: 22 March 2012
13:58:29 <glenn> Chair: sean
13:58:35 <glenn> Scribe: glenn
13:59:05 <glenn> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2012Mar/0032.html
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14:00:04 <glenn> zakim, ??p6 is me
14:00:04 <Zakim> +glenn; got it
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14:01:03 <glenn> zakim, ??p6 is me
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14:01:18 <glenn> zakim, aaaa is andrea
14:01:18 <Zakim> +andrea; got it
14:02:58 <Zakim> + +44.147.383.aabb
14:02:58 <glenn> Topic: Agenda
14:03:49 <glenn> zakim, aabb is johnb
14:03:49 <Zakim> +johnb; got it
14:05:11 <glenn> Regrets: miked
14:05:20 <glenn> zakim, andrea is andreas
14:05:20 <Zakim> +andreas; got it
14:06:03 <glenn> Topic: Charter Update
14:06:21 <glenn> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2012Mar/0033.html
14:06:46 <glenn> sean: is LC for May for 1st Ed reasonable?
14:07:02 <glenn> ... if any new features, will need LC; otherwise, may not need LC
14:07:10 <glenn> s/1st Ed/2nd Ed/
14:07:31 <glenn> sean: thinks there will not be new features, i.e., substantive changes
14:07:39 <glenn> ... new features will be in TTML.next
14:09:45 <glenn> glenn: agrees that substantive changes probably not required
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14:10:52 <glenn> -Regrets: miked
14:10:59 <glenn> zakim, aacc is miked
14:10:59 <Zakim> +miked; got it
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14:12:22 <glenn> sean: only concerns are with SMPTE timing and profile changes
14:12:37 <glenn> ... however, consensus is that LC probably not needed
14:12:53 <glenn> ... will continue with May timing
14:13:20 <glenn> Topic: Review of Actions
14:13:27 <glenn> ACTION-151?
14:13:27 <trackbot> ACTION-151 does not exist
14:13:42 <glenn> ACTION-48?
14:13:42 <trackbot> ACTION-48 -- Sean Hayes to elaborate issue-151 points -- due 2012-03-08 -- CLOSED
14:13:42 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/48
14:14:36 <glenn> ACTION-50?
14:14:36 <trackbot> ACTION-50 -- Sean Hayes to create wiki page for ttml and subpage for role registry -- due 2012-03-22 -- CLOSED
14:14:36 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/50
14:14:56 <glenn> sean: completed action-48 and action-50
14:15:25 <glenn> ACTION-41?
14:15:25 <trackbot> ACTION-41 -- Sean Hayes to aCTION: Sean to start the Note on how to use TTML with HTML5/CSS [recorded in ]http://www.w3.org/2012/02/09-ttml-minutes.html#action03] -- due 2012-04-01 -- OPEN
14:15:25 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/41
14:15:39 <glenn> sean: wip, few details to finalizee
14:15:44 <glenn> s/finalizee/finalize/
14:15:54 <glenn> ACTION-44?
14:15:54 <trackbot> ACTION-44 -- Philippe Le Hégaret to put in place a new errata and ask plh to set up the redirect to it -- due 2012-03-08 -- OPEN
14:15:54 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/44
14:16:12 <glenn> sean: wip
14:16:20 <glenn> ... coordinating with plh
14:16:35 <glenn> Topic: Review of Issues
14:16:59 <glenn> ISSUE-165?
14:16:59 <trackbot> ISSUE-165 -- allowing set to animate more than one attribute. -- open
14:16:59 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/165
14:17:49 <glenn> sean: in trying to simulate pop-on style, would like to simplify by specifying multiple attributes in a single set element
14:18:21 <glenn> ... or could have set reference a style element in order to animate entire style set referenced through style element
14:18:48 <glenn> glenn: this would be TTML.next
14:18:50 <glenn> sean: yes
14:19:10 <glenn> ISSUE-151?
14:19:10 <trackbot> ISSUE-151 -- Clarify syncbase in SMPTE continuous mode -- open
14:19:10 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/151
14:28:18 <Zakim> -sean_
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14:28:59 <Zakim> +sean
14:29:21 <Sean> hello?
14:29:53 <glenn> sean: was smpte mode intended to be marker based for both continuous and discountinuous cases?
14:30:22 <glenn> glenn: yes, smpte timebase was intended to be marker mode irrespective of value of ttp:markerMode value
14:31:07 <Zakim> +johnb
14:34:00 <glenn> sean: if intent was that smpte/continuous is intended to be marker mode, then we need to clarify spec; if not, then we need to remove
14:37:46 <glenn> sean: suggests that glenn closely read the current spec text, then writes a CP to address this issue
14:38:41 <glenn> ... will need to deal with the problem that (informative) notes in 6.2.6 (ttp:markerMode) seem to be specifying normative semantics that should be present in normative text
14:39:15 <glenn> ACTION glenn to review and draft CP for resolving ISSUE-151
14:39:16 <trackbot> Created ACTION-51 - Review and draft CP for resolving ISSUE-151 [on Glenn Adams - due 2012-03-29].
14:39:49 <glenn> ISSUE-154?
14:39:49 <trackbot> ISSUE-154 -- Clarify the endsync behavior -- open
14:39:49 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/154
14:40:05 <glenn> sean: simpler than 151, but still may need change to spec
14:40:34 <glenn> ... problem is that we don't specify endsync, which has a default of 'last'
14:40:51 <glenn> ... for most part this works, but may not work in marker mode
14:41:40 <glenn> ... problem is that parent needs to stay alive until children see their end markers
14:42:19 <glenn> ... could fix by changing default for endsync behavior to 'all'
14:42:37 <glenn> ... in fact this default could be applied throughout
14:43:10 <glenn> ... proposes introducing semantics that endsync behavior is 'all', at least for marker mode, but maybe for all modes
14:43:25 <glenn> ... will write CP to this effect
14:44:25 <glenn> ACTION sean to draft CP for resolving ISSUE-154
14:44:25 <trackbot> Created ACTION-52 - Draft CP for resolving ISSUE-154 [on Sean Hayes - due 2012-03-29].
14:45:01 <glenn> ISSUE-162?
14:45:01 <trackbot> ISSUE-162 -- profile discrepancy -- open
14:45:01 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/162
14:47:53 <glenn> mike: does profile specify a document profile or a processing profile?
14:48:14 <glenn> sean: believes it is fairly clear in spec
14:48:46 <glenn> mike: industry is not clear on this, so perhaps needs more explicit language to this effect
14:49:28 <glenn> sean: ... perhaps we should (could) add new mechanisms to support specifying document profile, but suggest this be TTML.next action
14:49:53 <glenn> mike: most important that intent is clear
14:50:31 <glenn> sean: would be reasonable to add more clarifying text/examples/etc.
14:51:14 <glenn> ACTION glenn to address or draft CP to resolve ISSUE-156
14:51:14 <trackbot> Created ACTION-53 - Address or draft CP to resolve ISSUE-156 [on Glenn Adams - due 2012-03-29].
14:51:43 <glenn> sean: any action to create new document profile should be introduced with a new issue
14:54:47 <glenn> sean: what happens if profile refers to a feature we don't define?
14:57:00 <glenn> ... when we introduce new feature designators in future, then what is processor behavior for older processors?
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15:09:46 <glenn> glenn: http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ttml/raw-file/tip/ttml10/spec/ttaf1-dfxp.html#conformance-generic-processor
15:09:50 <glenn> see item (3)
15:10:23 <glenn> mike: if no profile is specified, then processor should not reject (for that reason)
15:10:33 <glenn> ... in other words, should be optional
15:10:48 <Zakim> -miked
15:11:04 <Zakim> -johnb
15:11:43 <glenn> ACTION glenn to clarify behavior regarding processor behavior when encountering feature for which no used or required is indicated
15:11:43 <trackbot> Created ACTION-54 - Clarify behavior regarding processor behavior when encountering feature for which no used or required is indicated [on Glenn Adams - due 2012-03-29].
15:11:54 <glenn> Topic: Adjournment
15:11:58 <glenn> adjourned
15:12:09 <Zakim> -andreas
15:12:10 <Zakim> -glenn
15:12:11 <Zakim> -sean
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15:12:13 <Zakim> Attendees were sean_, glenn, +49.893.aaaa, +44.147.383.aabb, johnb, andreas, +1.858.882.aacc, miked, sean
15:12:26 <glenn> trackbot, end meeting
15:12:26 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
15:12:26 <Zakim> sorry, trackbot, I don't know what conference this is
15:12:34 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
15:12:34 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/03/22-tt-minutes.html trackbot
15:12:35 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
15:12:35 <RRSAgent> I see no action items
15:12:35 <glenn> zakim, this is TTML
15:12:35 <Zakim> sorry, glenn, I do not see a conference named 'TTML' in progress or scheduled at this time
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