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14:00:46 <trackbot> Meeting: Timed Text Working Group Teleconference
14:00:46 <trackbot> Date: 15 March 2012
14:00:59 <glenn> Chair: sean
14:01:03 <glenn> Scribe: glenn
14:01:19 <Zakim> + +44.154.558.aaaa
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14:01:43 <glenn> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2012Mar/0023.html
14:01:50 <glenn> zakim, who's here?
14:01:50 <Zakim> On the phone I see ??P13, +44.154.558.aaaa
14:01:54 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, Zakim, Sean, glenn, trackbot
14:02:04 <glenn> zakim, ??p13 is glenn
14:02:07 <Zakim> +glenn; got it
14:02:14 <glenn> zakim, aaaa is sean
14:02:14 <Zakim> +sean; got it
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14:07:05 <mike> mike has joined #tt
14:07:30 <mike> on another call today. joining by IRC only.
14:07:37 <plh> plh has joined #tt
14:08:52 <glenn> will start in a minute or so
14:12:29 <Sean_> test
14:12:30 <glenn> plh, are you joining on voice, or just irc?
14:14:13 <Zakim> +Plh
14:14:20 <plh> oops
14:14:24 <plh> zakim, drop plh
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14:19:11 <plh> w3c-test.org
14:21:10 <glenn> Topic: redirect of errata
14:21:28 <glenn> ACTION-44?
14:21:28 <trackbot> ACTION-44 -- Glenn Adams to put in place a new errata and ask plh to set up the redirect to it -- due 2012-03-01 -- OPEN
14:21:28 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/44
14:21:51 <glenn> glenn: file content has been put in place in ttml repo
14:22:14 <glenn> plh: will create redirect on w3.org from current loc to new loc in ttml repo
14:22:45 <glenn> glenn: may revise redirect in future if there is a full checkout location for errata
14:23:14 <glenn> Topic: pending review action items
14:23:39 <glenn> ACTION-46?
14:23:39 <trackbot> ACTION-46 -- Glenn Adams to remove examples as editorial change -- due 2012-03-01 -- PENDINGREVIEW
14:23:39 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/46
14:23:45 <plh> Glenn, since you'
14:23:55 <plh> re done with your part, I'm taking over action 44
14:24:22 <glenn> sean: no issues with 46, 47
14:24:26 <glenn> close ACTION-46
14:24:26 <trackbot> ACTION-46 Remove examples as editorial change closed
14:24:35 <glenn> ACTION-47?
14:24:35 <trackbot> ACTION-47 -- Glenn Adams to add "(Second Edition)" to draft -- due 2012-03-08 -- PENDINGREVIEW
14:24:35 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/47
14:24:40 <glenn> close ACTION-47
14:24:40 <trackbot> ACTION-47 Add "(Second Edition)" to draft closed
14:24:45 <glenn> ACTION-49?
14:24:45 <trackbot> ACTION-49 -- Glenn Adams to add note and editorial text elaborating "transformation semantics" -- due 2012-03-08 -- PENDINGREVIEW
14:24:45 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/49
14:24:52 <glenn> glenn: just implemented last night
14:24:53 <plh> agenda+ Charter update
14:25:10 <glenn> sean: let's leave this in pending review state for another week to give opportunity to review
14:25:35 <glenn> Topic: Charter update
14:25:54 <glenn> plh: have received comments, but still awaiting a few more comments, hoping to have by tomorrow
14:27:10 <glenn> ... one comment is that the Time Tracks CG is not listed as a liaison
14:27:52 <glenn> sean: suggests requesting Dave Singer, who is chairing that CG, to serve as liaison since he is chairing that CG
14:28:34 <glenn> plh: but not a dependency
14:29:16 <glenn> ... expecting further input from Judy Brewer, re a11y input
14:29:36 <glenn> ... no significant objections on charter at this time
14:30:03 <glenn> sean: if necessary to set up call with Judy, then please do so
14:30:44 <glenn> Topic: Open Action Items
14:30:54 <glenn> ACTION-41?
14:30:54 <trackbot> ACTION-41 -- Sean Hayes to aCTION: Sean to start the Note on how to use TTML with HTML5/CSS [recorded in ]http://www.w3.org/2012/02/09-ttml-minutes.html#action03] -- due 2012-04-01 -- OPEN
14:30:54 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/41
14:31:03 <glenn> sean: wip
14:31:36 <glenn> ACTION-44?
14:31:36 <trackbot> ACTION-44 -- Philippe Le Hégaret to put in place a new errata and ask plh to set up the redirect to it -- due 2012-03-08 -- OPEN
14:31:36 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/44
14:31:58 <glenn> plh: will close once redirect is in place
14:32:39 <glenn> ACTION-48?
14:32:39 <trackbot> ACTION-48 -- Sean Hayes to elaborate issue-151 points -- due 2012-03-08 -- OPEN
14:32:39 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/48
14:32:47 <glenn> sean: wip
14:33:30 <glenn> Topic: Open Issues
14:33:55 <glenn> ISSUE-152?
14:33:55 <trackbot> ISSUE-152 -- language in 9.3.3 -- open
14:33:55 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/152
14:34:22 <glenn> close ISSUE-152
14:34:22 <trackbot> ISSUE-152 language in 9.3.3 closed
14:34:25 <glenn> ISSUE-153?
14:34:25 <trackbot> ISSUE-153 -- 'metrics' should be changed to 'units' -- open
14:34:25 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/153
14:34:31 <glenn> close ISSUE-153
14:34:31 <trackbot> ISSUE-153 'metrics' should be changed to 'units' closed
14:35:01 <glenn> ISSUE-155?
14:35:01 <trackbot> ISSUE-155 -- #metadata-foreign not defined -- open
14:35:01 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/155
14:35:05 <glenn> close ISSUE-155
14:35:05 <trackbot> ISSUE-155 #metadata-foreign not defined closed
14:35:26 <glenn> ISSUE-157?
14:35:26 <trackbot> ISSUE-157 -- transformation profile -- open
14:35:26 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/157
14:35:31 <glenn> leave open for one more week
14:35:52 <glenn> ISSUE-156?
14:35:52 <trackbot> ISSUE-156 -- semantics of missing #feature -- open
14:35:52 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/156
14:35:56 <glenn> ISSUE-162?
14:35:56 <trackbot> ISSUE-162 -- profile discrepancy -- open
14:35:56 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/162
14:36:24 <glenn> sean: need Mike and Andreas on call to resolve, will table for now
14:36:29 <glenn> ISSUE-164?
14:36:29 <trackbot> ISSUE-164 -- managing x-role extensions -- open
14:36:29 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/164
14:36:41 <glenn> Topic: New Issues
14:36:45 <glenn> ISSUE-164?
14:36:45 <trackbot> ISSUE-164 -- managing x-role extensions -- open
14:36:45 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/164
14:37:20 <glenn> sean: would be useful to employ a registry for role (for x-...); should review this feature
14:37:30 <glenn> ... suggests an open issue
14:38:25 <glenn> +Present mike (irc only)
14:38:35 <glenn> +Present johnb (irc only)
14:39:26 <glenn> sean: asks plh about whether W3C has registrar for light-weight registries
14:39:45 <glenn> ... e.g., that TTWG could designate for allowing registry of new role tokens
14:41:32 <glenn> glenn: checks spec to determine if this is only use of x-
14:41:52 <glenn> ... verifies that x- is only used with ttm:role attribute values
14:42:16 <glenn> http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ttml/raw-file/tip/ttml10/spec/ttaf1-dfxp.html#metadata-attribute-role
14:42:36 <glenn> sean/plh: discuss possible use of a wiki
14:43:38 <plh> http://www.w3.org/wiki/
14:44:15 <glenn> sean: will set up base page in wiki
14:44:23 <glenn> plh: encourages putting url into spec
14:46:35 <glenn> glenn: notes (1) wiki should be general for ttml, and have sub-page for registry
14:47:00 <glenn> ... (2) current spec text 12.2.2 reserves all tokens that do not start with x- for future standardization
14:47:15 <glenn> ... but does so informatively (because it is stated in a note)
14:47:41 <glenn> zakim, who's here?
14:47:41 <Zakim> On the phone I see glenn, sean, Plh
14:47:42 <Zakim> On IRC I see JohnB, plh, mike, Sean_, RRSAgent, Zakim, glenn, trackbot
14:48:17 <glenn> plh: suggests having link from spec to registry
14:48:43 <glenn> ... also have other solutions than wiki that could be used, e.g., xpointer registry
14:49:02 <glenn> action to sean create wiki page for ttml and subpage for role registry
14:49:02 <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - to
14:49:23 <glenn> zakim, sean is sean_
14:49:23 <Zakim> +sean_; got it
14:49:43 <glenn> action to sean create wiki page for ttml and subpage for role registry
14:49:43 <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - to
14:50:02 <glenn> action sean to create wiki page for ttml and subpage for role registry
14:50:02 <trackbot> Created ACTION-50 - Create wiki page for ttml and subpage for role registry [on Sean Hayes - due 2012-03-22].
14:50:28 <glenn> ISSUE-163?
14:50:28 <trackbot> ISSUE-163 -- Clarify use of cell units in certain properties -- open
14:50:28 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/163
14:51:27 <glenn> sean: since a cell need not be rectangular, creates an ambiguity when 'c' unit is used in length specifications
14:52:24 <glenn> ... perhaps someone can create a CP?
14:52:35 <glenn> ... will issue call for CP to fix this issue
14:53:14 <glenn> ACTION-50 create area of wiki to place CPs
14:53:37 <glenn> ACTION-50: create area of wiki to place CPs
14:53:37 <trackbot> ACTION-50 Create wiki page for ttml and subpage for role registry notes added
14:54:06 <glenn> Topic: AOB
14:54:11 <glenn> None
14:54:17 <glenn> Topic: Adjournment
14:54:19 <glenn> Adjourned
14:54:31 <glenn> trackbot, end meeting
14:54:31 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
14:54:31 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been +44.154.558.aaaa, glenn, Plh, sean_
14:54:34 <Zakim> -Plh
14:54:34 <Zakim> -sean_
14:54:39 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
14:54:39 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/03/15-tt-minutes.html trackbot
14:54:40 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
14:54:40 <RRSAgent> I see no action items
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15:29:12 <glenn> rrsagent, make logs world-visible
15:29:28 <glenn> rrsagent, generate minutes
15:29:28 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/03/15-tt-minutes.html glenn
15:33:47 <glenn> rrsagent, bye
15:33:47 <RRSAgent> I see no action items