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17:01:17 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be html_wg
17:01:17 <Zakim> ok, trackbot, I see HTML_WG()12:00PM already started
17:01:17 <Julian> Zakim, +9251280aaaa is me
17:01:18 <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
17:01:18 <trackbot> Date: 08 March 2012
17:01:18 <Zakim> +Julian; got it
17:01:23 <Julian> Zakim, mute me
17:01:23 <Zakim> Julian should now be muted
17:01:25 <adrianba> adrianba has joined #html-wg
17:01:26 <paulc> zakim, [Microsoft] has paulc
17:01:26 <Zakim> +paulc; got it
17:01:27 <glenn> chair: paulc
17:01:33 <paulc> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2012JanMar/0022.html
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17:01:36 <glenn> scribe: glenn
17:01:36 <Zakim> +[Microsoft.a]
17:01:38 <Zakim> -[Microsoft.a]
17:01:42 <Zakim> +[Microsoft.a]
17:01:44 <Zakim> -[Microsoft.a]
17:01:45 <glenn> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2012JanMar/0022.html
17:02:02 <glenn> Topic: Action Items Due by March 8
17:02:11 <Zakim> +[Microsoft.a]
17:02:12 <Zakim> +[Microsoft.aa]
17:02:18 <adrianba> zakim, [Microsoft.a] is me
17:02:18 <Zakim> +adrianba; got it
17:02:22 <glenn> zakim, aabb is me
17:02:22 <Zakim> +glenn; got it
17:02:22 <[tm]> Zakim:  call Mike
17:02:24 <Zakim> +[Microsoft.a]
17:02:29 <eliot> zakim, microsoft.a is me
17:02:29 <Zakim> +eliot; got it
17:02:40 <krisk> zakim, [Microsoft.aa] is krisk
17:02:40 <Zakim> +krisk; got it
17:02:44 <Clarke> Clarke has joined #html-wg
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17:03:36 <paulc> zakim, who is on the phone?
17:03:36 <Zakim> On the phone I see Julian (muted), glenn, [Microsoft], hober, joesteele, +1.415.595.aacc, Joseph_Scheuhammer, adrianba, krisk, eliot
17:03:38 <Zakim> [Microsoft] has paulc
17:03:50 <[tm]> Zakim, call Mike
17:03:50 <Zakim> ok, [tm]; the call is being made
17:03:51 <Zakim> +Mike
17:04:37 <Zakim> +Mark_Watson
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17:05:05 <glenn> ACTION-209?
17:05:05 <trackbot> ACTION-209 -- Paul Cotton to set up an encrypted media propsal task force, due next week -- due 2012-03-08 -- OPEN
17:05:05 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/209
17:05:16 <paulc> See http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0275.html
17:05:19 <rniwa> rniwa has joined #html-wg
17:05:22 <Zakim> +Radhika_Roy
17:05:24 <glenn> paulc: posted outline for a Media TF
17:05:33 <mark> mark has joined #html-wg
17:05:39 <glenn> ... used same template for accessibility TF
17:05:46 <glenn> ... should close action item
17:05:57 <glenn> close ACTION-209
17:05:57 <trackbot> ACTION-209 Set up an encrypted media propsal task force, due next week closed
17:06:10 <glenn> ???: feedback on issue?
17:06:27 <glenn> paulc: will discuss feedback by next week
17:06:49 <glenn> ... moving this forward to set up TF, didn't set up deadline, will do a CfC with deadline on TF creation
17:07:07 <glenn> ... early feedback appreciated
17:07:10 <[tm]> paulc:  date for WD pubs is March 15
17:07:27 <glenn> Topic: New Issues This Week
17:07:28 <mark> s/???/Mark Watson/
17:07:33 <glenn> There is 1 tracker request
17:07:33 <glenn> http://w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?product=HTML+WG&keywords=TrackerRequest
17:07:56 <glenn> paulc: holding off action... may have by next week
17:08:01 <[tm]> s/paulc:  date/paulc, date/
17:08:06 <glenn> Topic: Items Closed Last Week
17:08:09 <glenn> ISSUE-189?
17:08:09 <trackbot> ISSUE-189 -- Prefix convention needs to be coordinated with IETF -- open
17:08:09 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/189
17:08:22 <glenn> paulc: two proposals, will move to next stage
17:08:41 <glenn> Topic: Items Closing This Week
17:08:45 <glenn> ISSUE-170?
17:08:45 <trackbot> ISSUE-170 -- make URIs valid link relations -- open
17:08:45 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/170
17:09:15 <glenn> paulc: looking up status
17:09:44 <glenn> ISSUE-192?
17:09:44 <trackbot> ISSUE-192 -- title attribute definition does not match reality -- open
17:09:44 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/192
17:10:00 <glenn> paulc: CfC closed yesterday
17:10:03 <glenn> ISSUE-204?
17:10:03 <trackbot> ISSUE-204 -- Exempt ARIA attributes from the rule that prohibits reference to hidden elements -- open
17:10:03 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/204
17:10:17 <glenn> CfC closes on Saturday, blocks ISSUE-30
17:10:27 <glenn> Topic: Items Closing Next Week
17:10:31 <glenn> ISSUE-80?
17:10:31 <trackbot> ISSUE-80 -- document conformance and device dependent display of title attribute content -- open
17:10:31 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/80
17:10:39 <glenn> ISSUE-131?
17:10:39 <trackbot> ISSUE-131 -- Should we add a caret location API to canvas, or is the focus API sufficient? -- open
17:10:39 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/131
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17:10:52 <glenn> ISSUE-158?
17:10:52 <trackbot> ISSUE-158 -- HTML4's content-model for <object> should continue -- open
17:10:52 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/158
17:10:53 <Zakim> +[Apple]
17:11:01 <dsinger> zakim, [apple] has dsinger
17:11:01 <Zakim> +dsinger; got it
17:11:03 <glenn> ISSUE-205?
17:11:04 <trackbot> ISSUE-205 -- Define what author guidance and/or methods should be provided to those that wish to create accessible text editors using canvas as a rendering surface. -- open
17:11:04 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/205
17:11:16 <glenn> paulc: all in call for counter proposals
17:11:19 <glenn> ... comments?
17:11:33 <glenn> Topic: New Calls
17:11:48 <glenn> paulc: CfC on May F2F, closes tomorrow March 10
17:11:59 <glenn> ISSUE-187? CfC
17:12:07 <glenn> ISSUE-187?
17:12:08 <trackbot> ISSUE-187 -- Document conformance has to be stable over the time -- open
17:12:08 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/187
17:12:15 <glenn> ISSUE-198?
17:12:15 <trackbot> ISSUE-198 -- Ensure innerHTML and related APIs are subject to the W3C patent policy -- closed
17:12:15 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/198
17:12:39 <glenn> paulc: have issued call for counter proposals, still discussing where work should be done... HTML vs WebApps
17:12:51 <glenn> ...  have called for counter propossal, while discussing place for work continues
17:12:59 <glenn> ... comments?
17:13:06 <glenn> Topic: New Surveys
17:13:07 <glenn> none
17:13:14 <glenn> Topic: Decisions this Week
17:13:23 <glenn> ISSUE-183?
17:13:23 <trackbot> ISSUE-183 -- Enhance and simplify the time element -- open
17:13:23 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/183
17:13:39 <glenn> issued CfC, received no object; 
17:13:58 <glenn> s/object/objections/
17:14:08 <glenn> Topic: TF Reports
17:14:11 <Zakim> -Mike
17:14:32 <glenn> paulc: accessibility TF has not met, any input?
17:14:55 <glenn> ... didn't meet for last 2 weeks due to SbSW meeting
17:15:07 <glenn> testing TF
17:15:24 <krisk> Notes from Testing TF Meeting -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-testsuite/2012Mar/0003.html
17:15:44 <glenn> krisk: if folks making changes to ???, please make in correct location
17:15:53 <krisk> Changes to testharness.js need to be done at https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/resources/
17:16:02 <glenn> s/???/testharness.js/
17:16:14 <glenn> krisk: working on canvas and bidi tests
17:16:31 <glenn> Topic: AOB
17:16:57 <glenn> a) CfC: Publish ten heartbeat drafts as WDs http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0247.html
17:16:57 <glenn> Chairs' decision:
17:16:57 <glenn> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0221.html 
17:17:08 <glenn> target pub date is March 15, [tm] is handling this...
17:17:23 <eliot> Will work with Mike
17:17:26 <glenn> paulc: any editors on call should work with Mike ([tm])
17:17:40 <glenn> ... to meet hearbeat requirements
17:17:55 <glenn> b) CfC: Close ISSUE-182 footnote-recommendation by Amicable Resolution http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0250.html
17:17:55 <glenn> Note: Awaiting Chairs' decision.
17:17:55 <glenn> c) CfC: Close ISSUE-188: generic-track-format by Amicable Resolution http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0251.html
17:17:56 <glenn> Note: Awaiting Chairs' decision.
17:18:02 <glenn> ISSUE-182?
17:18:02 <trackbot> ISSUE-182 -- Advice in spec about annotations promotes inaccessible content -- open
17:18:02 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/182
17:18:05 <glenn> ISSUE-188?
17:18:05 <trackbot> ISSUE-188 -- Text tracks in HTML should be defined in a way agnostic of the specific caption format -- open
17:18:05 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/188
17:18:33 <glenn> paulc: ... don't want to add to work queue yet, but expect decision shortly
17:18:54 <glenn> d) Revert request
17:18:54 <glenn> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0199.html
17:18:54 <glenn> Note: Awaiting Chairs' decision.
17:18:55 <glenn> e) Revert Request for "http+aes" scheme (see also ISSUE-179) http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0235.html
17:18:57 <glenn> Note: Awaiting Chairs' decision.
17:19:22 <glenn> paulc: chairs have not yet processed, but are discussing; response expected soon
17:19:50 <glenn> paulc: New AOB
17:19:54 <paulc> CfC: Close ISSUE-179 av_param by Amicable Resolution
17:20:10 <paulc> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0277.html
17:20:38 <glenn> paulc: will be able to move amicable resolution on remaining zero change proposal, march 15 deadlie
17:20:42 <Zakim> +??P7
17:20:44 <glenn> s/deadlie/deadline/
17:20:58 <glenn> paulc: one other question on list:
17:21:11 <glenn> ISSUE-164?
17:21:11 <trackbot> ISSUE-164 -- remove or modify hgroup -- open
17:21:11 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/164
17:21:27 <glenn> paulc: chairs are reviewing CPs
17:21:31 <Zakim> +??P19
17:21:34 <Zakim> -??P7
17:21:52 <glenn> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0237.html
17:22:10 <glenn> Topic: Adjournment
17:22:22 <glenn> s/Adjournment/Next Meeting/
17:22:23 <adrianba> i can scribe
17:22:30 <glenn> paulc: sam to chair, adrian to scribe
17:22:45 <glenn> Topic: Adjournment
17:22:51 <glenn> adjourned
17:22:55 <Zakim> -[Apple]
17:23:00 <glenn> trackbot, end meeting
17:23:00 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
17:23:00 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been +1.417.671.aabb, hober, joesteele, +1.415.595.aacc, Joseph_Scheuhammer, Julian, paulc, [Microsoft], adrianba, glenn, eliot, krisk, Mike,
17:23:03 <Zakim> ... Mark_Watson, Radhika_Roy, dsinger
17:23:08 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
17:23:08 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/03/08-html-wg-minutes.html trackbot
17:23:09 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
17:23:09 <RRSAgent> I see no action items
17:23:10 <Zakim> -??P19