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14:43:54 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be DAP
14:43:54 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see UW_DAP()10:00AM scheduled to start in 17 minutes
14:43:55 <trackbot> Meeting: Device APIs Working Group Teleconference
14:43:55 <trackbot> Date: 07 March 2012
14:44:25 <fjh> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2012Mar/0034.html
14:44:55 <fjh> Present+ Frederick_Hirsch
14:45:12 <fjh> Chair: Frederick_Hirsch
14:45:19 <fjh> Regrets: Robin_Berjon
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14:46:27 <dtran> Present+ Dzung_Tran
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14:55:50 <Zakim> +??P3
14:56:18 <glenn> zakim, ??p3 is glenn
14:56:18 <Zakim> +glenn; got it
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14:58:48 <Zakim> +??P9
14:58:50 <Zakim> -??P9
14:58:50 <Zakim> +??P9
14:58:59 <fjh> zakim, ??P9 is me
14:58:59 <Zakim> +fjh; got it
14:59:05 <fjh> zakim, who is here?
14:59:05 <Zakim> On the phone I see glenn, fjh
14:59:08 <Zakim> On IRC I see AnssiK, Jungkee, hiroto, dtran, Zakim, RRSAgent, glenn, richt, trackbot, fjh, ilkka, slightlyoff, mounir, rektide, Josh_Soref, hiroto_away, dom, lgombos
14:59:19 <Zakim> +??P11
14:59:22 <fjh> zakim, who is here?
14:59:26 <AnssiK> zakim, ??P11 is me
14:59:27 <Zakim> On the phone I see glenn, fjh, ??P11
14:59:38 <Zakim> +AnssiK; got it
14:59:41 <Zakim> On IRC I see AnssiK, Jungkee, hiroto, dtran, Zakim, RRSAgent, glenn, richt, trackbot, fjh, ilkka, slightlyoff, mounir, rektide, Josh_Soref, hiroto_away, dom, lgombos
14:59:55 <glenn> btw, regrets for the f2f, as i had some travel plan changes... 
15:00:28 <Zakim> + +86255662aaaa
15:00:30 <AnssiK> Present+ Anssi_Kostiainen
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15:00:54 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
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15:01:29 <Deep> Present+ Deepanshu_Gautam
15:01:46 <Zakim> +Cathy
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15:02:20 <fjh> Regrets+ Josh_Soref
15:02:22 <Zakim> +??P6
15:02:33 <Zakim> + +1.503.542.aabb
15:03:02 <dtran> zakim, aabb is me
15:03:02 <Zakim> +dtran; got it
15:03:25 <Zakim> +Bryan_Sullivan
15:04:08 <bryan> present+ Bryan_Sullivan
15:04:34 <glenn> i can scribe
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15:04:38 <glenn> scribe: glenn
15:04:40 <Cathy> Present+ Cathy_Chan
15:04:48 <fjh> ScribeNick: glenn
15:04:56 <fjh> Topic: Administrative
15:05:03 <mparaz> Present+ Miguel_Paraz
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15:05:07 <glenn> yes, i'm familiar
15:05:28 <fjh> Core Mobile Web Platform Community Group, http://www.w3.org/community/coremob/
15:05:29 <fjh> volunteers for FileAPI review? (Last Call expected soon), http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/FileAPI/
15:05:29 <fjh> "MediaStream Capture Scenarios" FPWD published, http://www.w3.org/TR/2012/WD-capture-scenarios-20120306/
15:05:54 <Zakim> + +46.1.07.15.aacc
15:05:59 <glenn> fjh: suggests looking at mediastream fpwd
15:06:04 <glenn> ... also request to review file api
15:06:15 <glenn> ... any volunteers to review?
15:06:22 <nwidell> nwidell has joined #dap
15:06:34 <glenn> ... will leave request open, encourages volunteers
15:06:40 <Claes> Claes has joined #dap
15:06:46 <nwidell> Present+ Niklas_Widell
15:06:49 <glenn> Topic: Minutes Review
15:06:51 <fjh> Approve minutes from 22 February 2012
15:06:51 <fjh> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2012Feb/att-0069/minutes-2012-02-22.html (revised)
15:06:59 <fjh> proposed RESOLUTION: Minutes from 22 February 2012 are approved.
15:07:23 <glenn> RESOLVED: Minutes from 22 February 2012 are approved
15:07:34 <glenn> Topic: F2F Agenda
15:07:38 <fjh> Updated draft agenda: http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/wiki/F2F_Agenda_20-22_March_2012,_Shenzhen,_China
15:07:38 <fjh> WoPhone update, http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2012Mar/0021.html
15:07:39 <fjh> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2012Feb/0066.html
15:07:39 <fjh> Added some suggestions for preparation to the wiki, feel free to update.
15:07:42 <Zakim> +Cathy.a
15:07:54 <glenn> fjh: add WoPhone update, please review
15:07:59 <Zakim> +??P15
15:08:07 <Zakim> + +46.1.08.01.aadd
15:08:08 <glenn> ... please sent to public list any materials you plan to use, don't wait for f2f
15:08:12 <SungOk_You> SungOk_You+
15:08:21 <glenn> ... presentations, etc., please send in advance
15:08:32 <Zakim> -Cathy
15:08:32 <SungOk_You> zakim, ??P15 is me
15:08:33 <Zakim> +SungOk_You; got it
15:08:41 <glenn> ... webintents draft, service discovery draft on agenda
15:08:53 <glenn> ... anyone able to talk about media capture?
15:09:01 <glenn> ... will check with chairs on TF
15:09:24 <glenn> ... moved battery, vibration, networking to afternoon of third day
15:09:31 <glenn> s/networking/network info/
15:09:52 <glenn> ... is there any open requests on agenda change? if so please remind
15:10:07 <glenn> ... not sure if/how video conf will work, ongoing discussion
15:10:07 <fjh> Daylight savings time inconsistency during F2F  - http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2012Feb/0077.html
15:10:35 <glenn> ... be careful about time zones due to current changes
15:10:37 <fjh> ACTION-505?
15:10:37 <trackbot> ACTION-505 -- Robin Berjon to check on attendees for Web Intents -- due 2012-02-22 -- OPEN
15:10:37 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/505
15:11:00 <fjh> zakim, who is here?
15:11:00 <Zakim> On the phone I see glenn, fjh, AnssiK, +86255662aaaa, [IPcaller], ??P6, dtran (muted), Bryan_Sullivan, +46.1.07.15.aacc, Cathy.a, SungOk_You, +46.1.08.01.aadd
15:11:03 <Zakim> On IRC I see Claes, nwidell, SungOk_You, mparaz, bryan, JiyeonKim, Cathy, Deep, AnssiK, Jungkee, hiroto, dtran, Zakim, RRSAgent, glenn, richt, trackbot, fjh, ilkka, slightlyoff,
15:11:03 <Zakim> ... mounir, rektide, Josh_Soref, hiroto_away, dom, lgombos
15:11:03 <glenn> Topic: Sensor API
15:11:18 <fjh> DeviceOrientation Spec - possible replication, feedback to Geolocation WG?   
15:11:19 <fjh> http://dev.w3.org/geo/api/spec-source-orientation.html
15:11:19 <fjh> InkML - http://www.w3.org/TR/2011/REC-InkML-20110920/#inkSource
15:11:19 <fjh> List discussion, e.g. http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2012Mar/0031.html
15:11:21 <glenn> fjh: DeviceOrientation Spec - possible replication, feedback to Geolocation WG?
15:11:49 <glenn> ... possible to move some material to GeoLocation work
15:12:36 <glenn> ???: waiting for settling on list then start editing and post another draft
15:12:49 <glenn> s/???/dtran/
15:13:05 <glenn> ... will not be present at F2F
15:13:24 <glenn> fjh: will moving things to device orientation spec be an issue?
15:13:39 <glenn> dtran: doesn't think this is an issue
15:13:53 <glenn> ... will remove any redundant parts, to align
15:14:06 <glenn> fjh: noted that ML said they weren't exactly same thing
15:14:14 <glenn> ... may need to coordinate
15:14:21 <glenn> dtran: ok
15:15:17 <glenn> djh: suggests sending summary to list and plan of action
15:15:21 <glenn> s/djh/fjh/
15:15:32 <glenn> Topic: Network API update
15:15:45 <fjh> WebKit, http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2012Feb/0064.html (Gyuyoung Kim)
15:15:45 <fjh> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2012Feb/0076.html (Mounir)
15:16:07 <fjh> ACTION-411?
15:16:07 <trackbot> ACTION-411 -- Robin Berjon to reply to Jo about NetInfo -- due 2011-06-15 -- OPEN
15:16:07 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/411
15:16:08 <glenn> fjh: expects discussion at F2F
15:16:14 <fjh> ACTION-474?
15:16:14 <trackbot> ACTION-474 -- Adrian Bateman to make a proposal for Network Information API -- due 2011-11-11 -- OPEN
15:16:14 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/474
15:16:20 <fjh> ACTION-475?
15:16:20 <trackbot> ACTION-475 -- Josh Soref to propose a new Network Info -- due 2011-11-11 -- OPEN
15:16:20 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/475
15:16:27 <fjh> ACTION-476?
15:16:27 <trackbot> ACTION-476 -- Robin Berjon to aCTION sicking to propose a new Network Info -- due 2011-11-11 -- OPEN
15:16:27 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/476
15:16:28 <glenn> ... some actions need moved/closed, robin, josh, adrian tbds...
15:16:40 <glenn> ... expect will happen on ML
15:16:52 <glenn> Topic: Battery, Vibration CR
15:16:58 <fjh> LC comment status (ACTION-508?) http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2012Mar/0033.html
15:17:04 <glenn> fjh: entered info into LC comments
15:17:22 <Claes> Present+ Claes_Nilsson
15:17:24 <glenn> ... one item in tracker
15:17:34 <glenn> ... will process for scheduling transition call
15:17:58 <glenn> ... claes, anything to add?
15:18:18 <glenn> claes: will review, and provide input on webintents for local services/networks
15:18:42 <glenn> fjh: encourages input early before F2F
15:18:58 <glenn> ... needs to organize TF discussions, will contact TF chairs
15:19:12 <glenn> Topic: Other APIs
15:19:28 <glenn> fjh: no discussion at this time, please use ML
15:19:29 <bryan> who is working on NFC use cases?
15:19:33 <bryan> q+
15:19:36 <glenn> Topic: AOB
15:19:47 <fjh> ack bryan
15:19:52 <glenn> fjh: may have call next week, but may cancel due to proximity of F2F
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15:19:59 <glenn> bryan: ??? use cases?
15:20:37 <Zakim> +??P35
15:20:39 <glenn> <which uses cases are being discussed?>
15:20:54 <Clarke> zakim, ??P35 is me
15:20:54 <Zakim> +Clarke; got it
15:20:59 <glenn> bryan: in US, things are moving on ???
15:21:16 <Clarke> Present+ Clarke_Stevens
15:21:29 <glenn> ... fit into charter?
15:22:09 <glenn> s/???/NFC (Near Field Communication)/
15:22:31 <glenn> fjh: clarke? anything to discuss?
15:22:45 <glenn> ... suggest sending to ML
15:22:56 <glenn> Topic: Adjournment
15:23:01 <glenn> fjh: adjourned
15:23:14 <glenn> Present+ glenn
15:23:20 <Zakim> -Clarke
15:23:21 <Zakim> -Bryan_Sullivan
15:23:22 <Zakim> - +86255662aaaa
15:23:23 <Zakim> - +46.1.07.15.aacc
15:23:23 <Zakim> - +46.1.08.01.aadd
15:23:24 <Zakim> -AnssiK
15:23:24 <Zakim> -dtran
15:23:25 <fjh> rrsagent, generate minutes
15:23:25 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/03/07-dap-minutes.html fjh
15:23:26 <Zakim> -Cathy.a
15:23:29 <glenn> trackbot, end meeting
15:23:29 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
15:23:29 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been glenn, fjh, AnssiK, +86255662aaaa, [IPcaller], Cathy, +1.503.542.aabb, dtran, Bryan_Sullivan, +46.1.07.15.aacc, +46.1.08.01.aadd,
15:23:32 <Zakim> ... SungOk_You, Clarke
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15:23:37 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
15:23:37 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/03/07-dap-minutes.html trackbot
15:23:38 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
15:23:38 <RRSAgent> I see no action items
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15:29:01 <fjh> rrsagent, generate minutes
15:29:01 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/03/07-dap-minutes.html fjh
15:29:51 <fjh> s/trackbot, end meeting//
15:29:57 <fjh> s/clarke? anything to discuss?/asks specifically for individuals to send F2F materials and discussions on the public list in advance of the F2F/
15:30:03 <fjh> s/<which uses cases are being discussed?>//
15:30:10 <fjh> s/??? use cases?/NFC use cases, are they in scope, and what to discuss?/
15:30:16 <fjh> s/ML/mailing list/g
15:30:23 <fjh> s/SungOk_You+/Present+ SungOk_You//
15:30:30 <fjh> s/looking at mediastream fpwd/looking at mediastream fpwd before Ff2F if you have not done so/
15:30:37 <fjh> rrsagent, generate minutes
15:30:37 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/03/07-dap-minutes.html fjh
15:31:03 <fjh> Present+ SungOk_You
15:31:13 <fjh> s/SungOk_You+//
15:31:17 <fjh> rrsagent, generate minutes
15:31:17 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/03/07-dap-minutes.html fjh
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15:49:23 <fjh> trackbot, end meeting
15:49:23 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
15:49:23 <Zakim> sorry, trackbot, I don't know what conference this is
15:49:31 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
15:49:31 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/03/07-dap-minutes.html trackbot
15:49:32 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
15:49:56 <fjh> rrsagent, make minutes public
15:49:56 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'make minutes public', fjh.  Try /msg RRSAgent help
15:50:33 <fjh> rrsagent, bye
15:51:10 <fjh> rrsagent, make log public
15:51:14 <fjh> rrsagent, bye
15:51:14 <RRSAgent> I see no action items