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16:05:41 <krisk> I presume we'll do this in IRC like normal, unless someone objects
16:06:25 <plh> no objection
16:06:33 <krisk> Agenda http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-testsuite/2012Feb/0011.html
16:06:34 <plh> but I'd love to catch up with you at some point btw
16:07:02 <krisk> Tell Mike Smith thanks for setting up the websocket server(s)
16:07:11 <plh> sure
16:07:19 <plh> do we have any other request pending?
16:07:52 <krisk> For the websocket server, it's two parts
16:08:06 <krisk> One getting agreement (though no one seems to object using Jetty)
16:08:37 <krisk> The other is actually getting 'modules' to run on the Jetty server
16:08:52 <krisk> I think we want to have a process simalar to php scripts
16:09:21 <krisk> Where one submits them to Hg, then asks the w3c team to review/ok before it gets deployed to the server
16:10:18 <plh> sure, that should be easy
16:10:20 <krisk> I think we also would expect people to submit java source code and not 'jar' files so one could either update or modify it at another point in time
16:10:55 <plh> we could do thigns on file extensions
16:11:05 <plh> so it's only a metter of adding those extensions
16:11:22 <plh> matter
16:11:53 <plh> if you send Mike and me the list of file extensions to be added, we'll do so
16:12:17 <plh> then, I don't kjnow if the jetty server will need rebooting everytime we're deploying new code on it...
16:12:44 <plh> on getting consensus, this needs to be discussed on public-webapps-testsuite
16:12:57 <plh> and possibly asking Art to send a CfC or something
16:13:10 <krisk> Yes - Art has already been sending emails, etc.. 
16:13:18 <krisk> Let's switch back to HTML
16:14:01 <krisk> Agenda Item #1 Bugs on Approved Tests
16:14:06 <krisk> short url -> http://tinyurl.com/6mvghxx
16:15:03 <krisk> No new bugs 
16:15:28 <plh> we have a bunch of old bugs that are not getting addressed there
16:15:28 <krisk> Note bug #15925 is valid 
16:16:06 <plh> is Philipp Taylor still updating the canvas tests?
16:16:35 <krisk> We 14 total, not too many (depending on your point of view)
16:16:52 <plh> ms2ger sent a patch for Philipp a while ago and never heard back
16:17:02 <plh> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=14191
16:17:42 <plh> should we apply the patch to our copy and move on?
16:18:02 <krisk> Sounds like we should ping Philip and then update and move on
16:18:38 <plh> sounds good enough to me. can you ping Philipp?
16:18:53 <krisk> yes I'll put this in the meeting notes 
16:19:02 <plh> and I'm happy to apply the patch or maybe ms2ger will apply it himself
16:19:20 <krisk> ms2ger follow the list so I'm sure he see the 'ask'
16:19:29 <plh> ok
16:20:35 <krisk> Agenda Item #2 New Test Submissions
16:20:39 <krisk> See -> http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/html/shortlog
16:21:20 <krisk> Areyh added a new assert to testharness.js http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/html/rev/70827aa55b90
16:21:45 <plh> argh, except that testharness.js moved...
16:22:06 <plh> alright, I'll take care of this one
16:22:21 <krisk> Good call out to the 'notes'
16:22:43 <jgraham> plh: Can we delete it from the html repo and just make sure that w3-test keeps working?
16:22:54 <plh> sure
16:23:07 <plh> w3c-test should work just fine
16:23:23 <krisk> or change it's contents to.....you are editing the wrong file see
16:24:09 <plh> James? you want to do the delete or should I do it?
16:24:15 <plh> I don't mind doing it
16:24:39 <plh> also, are you willing to add the new assert from Aryeh?
16:26:17 <jgraham> plh: You do it. And I reviewed Aryeh's change; it looks OK
16:26:40 <jgraham> (I don't like the design much but that is my fault not Aryeh's)
16:26:59 <plh> ok
16:29:12 <krisk> Aharon Lanin has also submitted more bidi tests http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/html/rev/a598fc124dbe
16:32:44 <krisk> These tests are pretty intresting for two reasons...
16:33:27 <krisk> They build on the CSS3 writitng mode spec http://www.w3.org/TR/css3-writing-modes/#unicode-bidi
16:33:51 <krisk> Also the last time I looked no one passed the tests
16:34:43 <plh> ok. done with fixing testharness.js
16:36:31 <krisk> and most browsers render the exact same
16:36:55 <krisk> So we have some type of interop is just doesn't seem to align to the spec(s)
16:37:45 <krisk> It maybe that indeed all browsers need to add this functionality in to support the css3 writing-mode spec and the parts that apply to the HTML5 spec
16:37:51 <jgraham> plh: Thanks
16:40:06 <krisk> James have you still been super busy?
16:42:16 <krisk> Perl can be intresting...
16:42:37 <plh> for archeologists? :)
16:42:40 <krisk> One of my first software jobs was to rewrite ~15 pages of Perl....
16:43:03 <gsnedders> Perl is fine!
16:43:10 <gsnedders> Provided it's used for text processing…
16:43:21 <jgraham> By other people. Far away.
16:43:47 <krisk> I was nice onve I was done..it was ~ 2 pages (not Perl's fault)
16:43:53 <jgraham> But anyway I am really expecting to be back on testsuite work in the next 1-2 weeks
16:43:58 <krisk> OK
16:44:23 <krisk> Did you see the websocket threads?
16:44:41 <krisk> If you object please ping the thread
16:45:10 <krisk> Any other agenda items, or shall we adjourn?
16:45:35 <plh> ok to adjourn for me
16:48:36 <jgraham> The websocket thing looks fine. I am happy if we support both servers; it seems that the security issue with pywebsocket doesn't apply to the W3C configuration
16:48:36 <krisk> Let's adjourn
16:48:52 <jgraham> And I know there are already websocket tests written against that
16:49:17 <krisk> thx
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