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15:57:18 <LeonieW> LeonieW has changed the topic to: HTML-A11y Bug triage telecon (LeonieW)
15:57:28 <LeonieW> agenda: this
15:57:49 <LeonieW> agenda+ Identify scribe
15:57:58 <LeonieW> agenda+ New bugs review
15:58:57 <LeonieW> agenda+ be done
15:59:11 <LeonieW> zakim, save agenda
15:59:17 <Zakim> ok, LeonieW, the agenda has been written to http://www.w3.org/2012/02/21-a11y-bugs-agenda.rdf
16:00:27 <LeonieW> Chair: Léonie Watson
16:02:22 <LeonieW> Regrets: Gez Lemon
16:02:32 <LeonieW> rrsagent, make minutes
16:02:32 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/02/21-a11y-bugs-minutes.html LeonieW
16:04:06 <LeonieW> scribe: Lakim, next item
16:04:13 <LeonieW> zakim, next item
16:04:13 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Identify scribe" taken up [from LeonieW]
16:04:23 <LeonieW> scribe: Léonie Watson
16:04:29 <LeonieW> scribenick: LeonieW
16:04:35 <LeonieW> zakim, close item 1
16:04:35 <Zakim> agendum 1, Identify scribe, closed
16:04:37 <Zakim> I see 2 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
16:04:37 <Zakim> 2. New bugs review [from LeonieW]
16:04:38 <MichaelC> zakim, this is 2119
16:04:39 <Zakim> ok, MichaelC; that matches WAI_PFWG(HTML_TF)11:00AM
16:04:42 <LeonieW> zakim, next item
16:04:42 <Zakim> +Cooper
16:04:42 <Zakim> agendum 2. "New bugs review" taken up [from LeonieW]
16:05:04 <MichaelC> zakim, IPcaller.a is Hans_Hillen
16:05:04 <Zakim> +Hans_Hillen; got it
16:05:10 <MichaelC> zakim, IPcaller is Léonie_Watson
16:05:10 <Zakim> +Léonie_Watson; got it
16:06:22 <LeonieW> HH: Identified 4 bugs to be tagged a11y.
16:06:43 <hhillen> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=15939
16:06:46 <LeonieW> HH: 15939
16:07:26 <LeonieW> HH: It's about untitled sections in outlines.
16:14:32 <LeonieW> MC: WCAG requires headings for every section at Level AA.
16:14:45 <LeonieW> LW: Think there may be cases where a heading wasn't needed.
16:14:58 <LeonieW> LW: Suggest we leave a11y keyword, but no need for tf keyword.
16:15:13 <hhillen> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=16005
16:15:13 <LeonieW> HH: 19005
16:15:50 <MichaelC> s/19005/16005/
16:16:21 <LeonieW> HH: Request for subtitles on audio.
16:18:00 <LeonieW> LW: Seems as though this relates to hearing impaired people who would be able to link up captions with the audio they could hear.
16:18:17 <LeonieW> MC: Wondering how essential it is?
16:18:30 <LeonieW> MC: WCAG doesn't require synchronised captions for audio.
16:19:18 <LeonieW> MC: Suggest we kick this over to the HTML techniques TF?
16:19:37 <LeonieW> LW: Makes sense.
16:20:02 <LeonieW> HH: Would be good to have the ability in the spec, but not sure the TF needs to follow up.
16:20:07 <LeonieW> rrsagent, make minutes
16:20:07 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/02/21-a11y-bugs-minutes.html LeonieW
16:20:08 <hhillen> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=16018
16:20:17 <LeonieW> HH: 16018
16:20:53 <LeonieW> HH: Exclude disabled form fields from specially focusable elements.
16:22:30 <LeonieW> MC: Maybe the TF should discuss this, so they can look at the different use cases?
16:24:32 <hhillen> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=16029
16:24:35 <LeonieW> LW: Let's ask the TF on Thursday.
16:24:48 <LeonieW> HH: 16929
16:25:55 <LeonieW> HH: Provide an example of required for radio button.
16:28:11 <LeonieW> MC: The required attribute would need adding to fieldset.
16:28:18 <LeonieW> MC: Think this is one for the TF.
16:28:22 <LeonieW> HH: Agreed.
16:28:39 <LeonieW> MC: We'd need the spec to be changed and an example provided though, not just the example requested in this bug.
16:28:51 <LeonieW> LW: Agreed, let's tag it.
16:30:07 <LeonieW> MC: We may need to file a new bug.
16:36:07 <MichaelC> for required on fieldset
16:36:14 <MichaelC> radio buttons means one value must be selected
16:36:23 <MichaelC> checkboxes means one or more values must be selected
16:36:31 <MichaelC> any other form controls means all of the controls are required
16:37:19 <LeonieW> LW: New bug filed https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/post_bug.cgi
16:41:44 <LeonieW> MC: Added a11ytf keyword to the new bug, and blocked the earlier bug.
16:42:01 <LeonieW> rrsagent, make minutes
16:42:01 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/02/21-a11y-bugs-minutes.html LeonieW
16:42:40 <LeonieW> MC: Added note to earlier bug, referencing the new bug.
16:44:02 <LeonieW> HH: There were three other requests I didn't think needed triaging...
16:44:50 <LeonieW> HH: One realted to auto focus, one relating to allowed characters in a pattern, and the last was about classifying the area element interactive content.
16:45:37 <LeonieW> LW: Doesn't sound as though they need accessibility consideration.
16:47:06 <LeonieW> LW: Will be unavailable due to jury service for the next couple of calls.
16:47:16 <LeonieW> MC: The PF meeting is on the 6th.
16:47:35 <LeonieW> LW: Suggest we skip a call during that week, and meet again on the 20th?
16:47:56 <LeonieW> MC: I can chair the one on the 20th.
16:48:32 <Zakim> -Hans_Hillen
16:48:34 <Zakim> -Cooper
16:48:34 <Zakim> WAI_PFWG(HTML_TF)11:00AM has ended
16:48:34 <Zakim> Attendees were Cooper, Hans_Hillen, Léonie_Watson
16:48:38 <LeonieW> rrsagent, make minutes
16:48:38 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/02/21-a11y-bugs-minutes.html LeonieW
16:49:28 <LeonieW> Meeting: HTML-A11y BUg triage telecon
16:49:34 <LeonieW> rrsagent, make minutes
16:49:34 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/02/21-a11y-bugs-minutes.html LeonieW
16:50:13 <LeonieW> Present: Léonie Watson, Hans Hillen, Michael Cooper
16:50:19 <LeonieW> rrsagent, make minutes
16:50:19 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/02/21-a11y-bugs-minutes.html LeonieW
16:51:58 <LeonieW> zakim, please part
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16:52:05 <RRSAgent> I see no action items