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14:44:50 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be DAP
14:44:50 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see UW_DAP()10:00AM scheduled to start in 16 minutes
14:44:51 <trackbot> Meeting: Device APIs Working Group Teleconference
14:44:51 <trackbot> Date: 15 February 2012
14:45:16 <fjh> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2012Feb/0039.html
14:45:31 <fjh> Chair: Robin_Berjon, Frederick_Hirsch
14:45:34 <fjh> Present+ Robin_Berjon, Frederick_Hirsch
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14:46:36 <fjh> Regrets+ Dave_Raggett
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14:57:50 <dtran> Present+ Dzung_Tran
14:58:02 <AnssiK> Present+ Anssi_Kostiainen
14:58:30 <Zakim> UW_DAP()10:00AM has now started
14:58:38 <Zakim> +??P1
14:58:44 <AnssiK> zakim, ??P1 is me
14:58:44 <Zakim> +AnssiK; got it
14:58:47 <SungOk_You> Present+ SungOk_You
14:58:48 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
14:58:56 <fjh> zakim, [IPcaller] is  me
14:58:56 <Zakim> +fjh; got it
14:59:00 <fjh> zakim, who is here?
14:59:00 <Zakim> On the phone I see AnssiK, fjh
14:59:00 <spoussa> spoussa has joined #dap
14:59:01 <Zakim> On IRC I see AnssiK, dtran, ernesto_jimenez, glenn, Zakim, RRSAgent, fjh, SungOk_You, richt, darobin, mounir, Josh_Soref, ilkka, rektide, trackbot, lgombos, dom
14:59:23 <ernesto_jimenez> Present+ Ernesto_Jimenez
14:59:42 <Zakim> + +44.778.611.aaaa
14:59:57 <ernesto_jimenez> zakim, aaaa is me
14:59:57 <Zakim> +ernesto_jimenez; got it
14:59:58 <Zakim> +glenn
15:00:18 <Zakim> +??P6
15:00:24 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
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15:00:40 <SungOk_You> zakim, [IPcaller] is me 
15:00:40 <Zakim> +SungOk_You; got it
15:00:50 <kihong> Present+ Kihong_Kwon
15:01:03 <Clarke> zakim, who is on the phone
15:01:03 <Zakim> I don't understand 'who is on the phone', Clarke
15:01:05 <Zakim> + +1.503.333.aabb
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15:01:23 <fjh> zakim, who is here?
15:01:23 <Zakim> On the phone I see AnssiK, fjh, ernesto_jimenez, glenn, ??P6, SungOk_You, +1.503.333.aabb
15:01:25 <Zakim> On IRC I see mparaz, Clarke, kihong, spoussa, AnssiK, dtran, ernesto_jimenez, glenn, Zakim, RRSAgent, fjh, SungOk_You, richt, darobin, mounir, Josh_Soref, ilkka, rektide, trackbot,
15:01:25 <Zakim> ... lgombos, dom
15:01:37 <Clarke> zakim, ??P6 is me
15:01:37 <Zakim> +Clarke; got it
15:01:43 <Zakim> +??P9
15:01:47 <dom> Zakim, ??P9 is me
15:01:47 <Zakim> +dom; got it
15:01:53 <Zakim> -SungOk_You
15:01:59 <spoussa> Present+ Sakari_Poussa
15:02:27 <Clarke> Present+ Clarke_Stevens
15:02:42 <Zakim> + +1.503.542.aacc
15:03:05 <dtran> aacc is me
15:03:12 <SungOk_You_> SungOk_You_ has joined #dap
15:03:24 <dom> Zakim, aacc is dtran
15:03:24 <Zakim> +dtran; got it
15:03:25 <Zakim> +darobin
15:03:31 <fjh> zakim, who is here?
15:03:31 <Zakim> On the phone I see AnssiK, fjh, ernesto_jimenez, glenn, Clarke, +1.503.333.aabb, dom, dtran, darobin
15:03:33 <Zakim> On IRC I see SungOk_You_, mparaz, Clarke, kihong, spoussa, AnssiK, dtran, ernesto_jimenez, glenn, Zakim, RRSAgent, fjh, SungOk_You, richt, darobin, mounir, Josh_Soref, ilkka,
15:03:33 <Zakim> ... rektide, trackbot, lgombos, dom
15:03:37 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
15:03:50 <Zakim> +[IPcaller.a]
15:04:23 <darobin> Scribe: Anssi
15:04:28 <darobin> ScribeNick: AnssiK 
15:04:39 <fjh> zakim, who is here?
15:04:39 <Zakim> On the phone I see AnssiK, fjh, ernesto_jimenez, glenn, Clarke, +1.503.333.aabb, dom, dtran, darobin, [IPcaller], [IPcaller.a]
15:04:40 <spoussa> Zakim, aabb is me
15:04:41 <Zakim> On IRC I see SungOk_You_, mparaz, Clarke, kihong, spoussa, AnssiK, dtran, ernesto_jimenez, glenn, Zakim, RRSAgent, fjh, richt, darobin, mounir, Josh_Soref, ilkka, rektide,
15:04:41 <Zakim> ... trackbot, lgombos, dom
15:04:41 <Zakim> +spoussa; got it
15:04:44 <SungOk_You_> zakim, [IPcaller.a] is me 
15:04:44 <Zakim> +SungOk_You_; got it
15:05:09 <mparaz> zakim, [IPCaller] is me
15:05:09 <Zakim> +mparaz; got it
15:05:09 <AnssiK> TOPIC: Admin
15:05:24 <AnssiK> fjh: AC Meeting 13-15 May, France https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/34257/AC212/
15:05:41 <AnssiK> TOPIC: Minutes approval
15:05:44 <mparaz> Present+ MIguel_Paraz
15:05:49 <AnssiK> PROPOSED RESOLUTION: Approve minutes from 8 February 2012
15:05:52 <fjh> Approve minutes from 8 February 2012
15:05:52 <fjh> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2012Feb/att-0027/minutes-2012-02-08.html
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15:05:59 <AnssiK> RESOLUTION: Approve minutes from 8 February 2012
15:06:07 <AnssiK> TOPIC: 20-22 March F2F 
15:06:14 <wonsuk> Present+ Wonsuk_Lee
15:06:20 <AnssiK> fjh: Drafting F2F Agenda, http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/wiki/F2F_Agenda_20-22_March_2012,_Shenzhen,_China#Day_3.2C_Thursday_22_March_2012_.289_am_-_4_pm.29
15:06:23 <fjh> Drafting F2F Agenda, http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/wiki/F2F_Agenda_20-22_March_2012,_Shenzhen,_China#Day_3.2C_Thursday_22_March_2012_.289_am_-_4_pm.29
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15:06:32 <AnssiK> … host (Huawei) will have a preso as well
15:06:43 <AnssiK> … walks through the agenda with darobin
15:07:14 <AnssiK> … 1st day is focused on Web Intents
15:07:17 <Zakim> + +46.1.07.15.aadd - is perhaps Niklas_Widell?
15:07:35 <nwidell> Present+ Niklas_Widell
15:07:40 <AnssiK> … e.g. how to do Contacts via the intents model and what to do with publishing the Contacts API
15:07:49 <AnssiK> … it has been sitting there in LC for quite some time
15:07:49 <nwidell> zakim, aadd is nwidell
15:07:49 <Zakim> sorry, nwidell, I do not recognize a party named 'aadd'
15:08:02 <darobin> q+ to talk about involving James in agenda for day 1, and OS-level APIs
15:08:15 <AnssiK> … day 2, sensors, network information, battery, vibration
15:08:23 <AnssiK> … battery and vibration to CR?
15:08:33 <AnssiK> … an update from Media Capture TF would be nice
15:08:46 <darobin> ack me
15:08:46 <Zakim> darobin, you wanted to talk about involving James in agenda for day 1, and OS-level APIs
15:08:51 <AnssiK> … anyone have any immediate suggestions?
15:09:20 <AnssiK> darobin: two things
15:09:26 <AnssiK> … sync up with James Hawkings (chair of Web Intents TF)
15:09:46 <fjh> need to detail agenda for WebIntents
15:10:16 <AnssiK> … lots of movement on the system level APIs, work that was initially excluded from our work, perhaps revisit that
15:10:30 <darobin> ACTION: Robin to sync with James and Frederick on Web Intents agenda
15:10:30 <trackbot> Created ACTION-503 - Sync with James and Frederick on Web Intents agenda [on Robin Berjon - due 2012-02-22].
15:10:49 <wonsuk> +1 for fjh related with WebIntent agenda
15:10:53 <AnssiK> … will send an email related to these two topics
15:11:20 <darobin> ACTION: Robin to send an email about the system vs browser security stuff and whether the group should do OS-level APIs (again) or at least what to do with that topic
15:11:20 <trackbot> Created ACTION-504 - Send an email about the system vs browser security stuff and whether the group should do OS-level APIs (again) or at least what to do with that topic [on Robin Berjon - due 2012-02-22].
15:11:29 <AnssiK> fjh: need to find out who'll be at the F2F
15:11:36 <fjh> Logistics discussion -  Hotel  - http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2012Feb/0030.html
15:11:59 <spoussa> +1 for the OS level APIs
15:12:01 <AnssiK> … Logistics discussion -  Hotel  - http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2012Feb/0030.html
15:12:16 <fjh> proposed RESOLUTION: No teleconference week after F2F, 28 March call cancelled
15:12:17 <darobin> +1
15:12:24 <AnssiK> RESOLUTION: No teleconference week after F2F, 28 March call cancelled
15:12:46 <AnssiK> … any suggestions re agenda send them to the list
15:12:52 <AnssiK> TOPIC: MediaStream Capture Scenarios
15:12:58 <darobin> ACTION: Robin to check on attendees for Web Intents
15:12:58 <trackbot> Created ACTION-505 - Check on attendees for Web Intents [on Robin Berjon - due 2012-02-22].
15:13:05 <AnssiK> fjh: CfC to publish FPWD of "MediaStream Capture Scenarios", deadline 20 Feb
15:13:19 <AnssiK> … FPWD is subject to change
15:13:29 <fjh> DAP: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2012Feb/0029.html
15:13:29 <fjh> WebRTC: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webrtc/2012Feb/0061.html
15:13:30 <AnssiK> … CfC sent to both DAP and WebRTC WGs
15:13:43 <fjh> zakim, who is here?
15:13:43 <Zakim> On the phone I see AnssiK, fjh, ernesto_jimenez, glenn, Clarke, spoussa, dom, dtran, darobin, mparaz, SungOk_You_, Niklas_Widell?
15:13:45 <Zakim> On IRC I see nwidell, wonsuk, SungOk_You_, mparaz, Clarke, kihong, spoussa, AnssiK, dtran, ernesto_jimenez, glenn, Zakim, RRSAgent, fjh, richt, darobin, mounir, Josh_Soref, ilkka,
15:13:45 <Zakim> ... rektide, trackbot, lgombos, dom
15:13:58 <AnssiK> TOPIC: Sensor API
15:14:11 <fjh> a - http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2012Feb/0031.html
15:14:11 <fjh> b - http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2012Feb/0033.html
15:14:11 <fjh> c - http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2012Feb/0036.html
15:14:12 <fjh> Web of Sensors community Group  created https://www.w3.org/community/sensorweb/\
15:14:15 <AnssiK> fjh: Wayne has done a bunch of comments on the list
15:15:00 <AnssiK> … Web of Sensors CG has started http://www.w3.org/community/sensorweb/
15:15:16 <AnssiK> darobin: no specifics to discuss on the call
15:15:27 <AnssiK> TOPIC: Vibration API
15:15:37 <fjh> Draft updated (underlying correction which ReSpec currently masks)  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2012Feb/0028.html
15:15:53 <AnssiK> darobin: Anssi fixed the IDL
15:16:19 <dtran> Is there still interest working on Sensor API?
15:16:54 <AnssiK> TOPIC: Battery API
15:17:00 <dtran> There were some concerns on exposing raw sensor data at the TPAC
15:18:56 <darobin> ACTION: Robin to add option to ReSpec to remove specific attributes from autogenerated Attributes sections
15:18:57 <trackbot> Created ACTION-506 - Add option to ReSpec to remove specific attributes from autogenerated Attributes sections [on Robin Berjon - due 2012-02-22].
15:19:02 <fjh> I believe all comments were addressed by Anssi in the latest draft apart from one outstanding issue
15:20:05 <darobin> ACTION-506: apply that to v2
15:20:05 <trackbot> ACTION-506 Add option to ReSpec to remove specific attributes from autogenerated Attributes sections notes added
15:20:07 <fjh> ReSpec version 2 patch
15:20:34 <AnssiK> darobin: LC for battery is over
15:20:53 <fjh> battery last call period has ended, so if LC comments are satisfied then we can enter CR
15:20:55 <AnssiK> … if all the comments are addressed and ppl are happy, we can move to CR
15:21:51 <AnssiK> darobin: vibration LC is still ongoing
15:22:26 <fjh> q?
15:23:51 <AnssiK> congrats to Robin!!11
15:24:12 <AnssiK> re TAG appointment
15:24:33 <AnssiK> s/congrats/AnssiK: congrats/
15:24:40 <fjh> issue: concern on exposing raw sensor data
15:24:41 <trackbot> Created ISSUE-124 - Concern on exposing raw sensor data ; please complete additional details at http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/issues/124/edit .
15:24:44 <Zakim> -SungOk_You_
15:24:46 <AnssiK> s/re/... on the/
15:25:20 <AnssiK> TOPIC: Adjourn
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15:25:34 <Zakim> -dtran
15:25:51 <Zakim> -AnssiK
15:25:52 <Zakim> -glenn
15:25:53 <Zakim> -darobin
15:25:54 <Zakim> -Clarke
15:25:55 <Zakim> -ernesto_jimenez
15:25:55 <Zakim> -spoussa
15:25:57 <Zakim> -Niklas_Widell?
15:25:57 <Zakim> -fjh
15:25:58 <Zakim> -dom
15:26:00 <fjh> rrsagent, generate minutes
15:26:00 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/02/15-dap-minutes.html fjh
15:26:13 <Zakim> -mparaz
15:26:14 <Zakim> UW_DAP()10:00AM has ended
15:26:14 <Zakim> Attendees were AnssiK, fjh, +44.778.611.aaaa, ernesto_jimenez, glenn, SungOk_You, +1.503.333.aabb, Clarke, dom, +1.503.542.aacc, dtran, darobin, spoussa, SungOk_You_, mparaz,
15:26:14 <Zakim> ... +46.1.07.15.aadd
15:26:45 <fjh> s/Admin/Administrative
15:26:49 <fjh> s/aacc is me//
15:26:54 <fjh> rrsagent, generate minutes
15:26:54 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/02/15-dap-minutes.html fjh
15:27:27 <fjh> s| Drafting F2F Agenda, http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/wiki/F2F_Agenda_20-22_March_2012,_Shenzhen,_China#Day_3.2C_Thursday_22_March_2012_.289_am_-_4_pm.29||
15:28:20 <fjh> s/need to find out who'll be at the F2F/need to find out who'll be at the F2F, Robin please ask James for a list of attendees when you contact him/
15:28:42 <fjh> s/… any/fjh: any/
15:29:06 <fjh> s/ subject to change/ subject to change, but good to publish early and often/
15:29:44 <fjh> s/WebRTC WGs/WebRTC WGs. Josh had some comments, editors (Travis) discretion which editorial comments to include in publication/
15:29:51 <fjh> rrsagent, generate minutes
15:29:51 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/02/15-dap-minutes.html fjh
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15:33:15 <darobin> close ACTION-503
15:33:15 <trackbot> ACTION-503 Sync with James and Frederick on Web Intents agenda closed
15:58:43 <darobin> close ACTION-504
15:58:43 <trackbot> ACTION-504 Send an email about the system vs browser security stuff and whether the group should do OS-level APIs (again) or at least what to do with that topic closed
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17:04:36 <darobin> close ACTION-506
17:04:36 <trackbot> ACTION-506 Add option to ReSpec to remove specific attributes from autogenerated Attributes sections closed
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