15:55:42 RRSAgent has joined #HCLS 15:55:42 logging to http://www.w3.org/2012/02/14-HCLS-irc 15:56:18 Meeting: W3C HCLS – Life Sciences Forum 15:56:21 Zakim, this will be hcls 15:56:21 ok, ericP; I see SW_HCLS()11:00AM scheduled to start in 4 minutes 15:56:23 Chair: michel 15:56:33 SW_HCLS()11:00AM has now started 15:56:34 zakim, this is hcls 15:56:34 michel, this was already SW_HCLS()11:00AM 15:56:35 +EricP 15:56:35 ok, michel; that matches SW_HCLS()11:00AM 15:57:36 +[IPcaller] 15:57:46 zakim, [IPcaller] is michel 15:57:46 +michel; got it 16:00:32 amrapali has joined #hcls 16:00:37 jun has joined #hcls 16:01:38 + +1.510.541.aaaa 16:01:45 Helena has joined #hcls 16:01:53 + +1.832.386.aabb 16:02:16 +Joseph_Scheuhammer 16:02:26 +ScottB 16:02:33 JP has joined #HCLS 16:02:44 + +1.215.239.aacc 16:02:51 iker has joined #hcls 16:03:03 Zakim, aacc is iker 16:03:03 +iker; got it 16:03:04 zakim, +1.215.239.aacc is iker 16:03:05 sorry, michel, I do not recognize a party named '+1.215.239.aacc' 16:03:15 +[IPcaller] 16:03:24 zakim, [IPcaller] is jun 16:03:24 +jun; got it 16:03:34 Zakim, who is here? 16:03:34 On the phone I see EricP, michel, +1.510.541.aaaa, +1.832.386.aabb, Joseph_Scheuhammer, ScottB, iker, jun 16:03:36 mscottm2 has joined #hcls 16:03:37 On IRC I see iker, JP, Helena, jun, amrapali, RRSAgent, Zakim, michel, MacTed, egonw_, ericP 16:03:38 epichler has joined #HCLS 16:03:50 zakim, +1.832.386.aabb is me 16:03:50 +Helena; got it 16:04:34 matthias_samwald has joined #hcls 16:05:22 +[IPcaller] 16:05:35 zakim, [IPcaller] is matthias_samwald 16:05:35 +matthias_samwald; got it 16:05:38 http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/wiki/Main_Page 16:05:51 Have been trying to dialin but keep getting "This passcode is not valid." 16:06:29 + +31.62.427.aadd 16:06:51 Zakim, +31.62.427.aadd is mscottm2 16:06:51 +mscottm2; got it 16:06:53 "hcls" passcode worked for me 16:07:11 oh, you made it by now. 16:07:37 Yeah, 4x a charm. :) 16:08:39 +Philippe 16:08:43 -EricP 16:08:57 http://www.w3.org/TR/2012/WD-prov-primer-20120110/ 16:10:02 lena: can use provenance model on tcga dataset 16:11:04 + +1.514.864.aaee 16:13:16 Zakim, who is making noise? 16:13:32 mscottm2, listening for 13 seconds I heard sound from the following: michel (65%), ericP (7%) 16:16:52 From Richard Boyce: For the SciDisc Use Case, we have created a set of web pages that show a very basic demo of one way that a drug package insert might be flagged to claims present in the other knowledge sources on the semantic web. 16:16:52 http://dbmi-icode-01.dbmi.pitt.edu/dikb-evidence/outfiles/ 16:16:52 Each web page shows DailyMed Structured Product Label sections (posted on the new linkedSPL endpoint ) that have been linked to 1) claims present in the linked data version of the Drug Interaction Knowledge Base (http://dbmi-icode-01.dbmi.pitt.edu:2020/) and 2) published results from studies involving the drug's active ingredient that have been registered in clinicaltrials.gov (via LinkedCT). I will discuss the use case and demo at 16:17:39 https://02.chat.mibbit.com/?server=irc.w3.org:6665&channel=%23hcls 16:18:02 http://goo.gl/RPjOE 16:18:19 junz has joined #hcls 16:19:05 that link works fine for me. just tested it 16:20:29 mscottm2: biordf group - expression rdf w3c note 16:21:32 ... gives guidelines for producing rdf on differentially expressed genes, experimental conditions 16:22:00 ... getting people around the table fged, arrayexpress, more confidence in rdf created 16:22:23 ... workshop article shows show to interconvert between representations 16:23:27 ... tutorial aspect needs to be developed in the note - R script from jim mccusker to generate the rdf; python scripts from io informatics; other tools 16:24:11 ... rdf representation + how to use it with other tools to perform analysis; take the results and do something with it 16:25:09 -ScottB 16:25:15 ... looking at putting a SPARQL interface to synapse (API from sage bionetworks) 16:26:18 ... includes snp data, patient data 16:27:15 matthias: seems that main access is now api, no file download 16:28:18 mscottm2: are they interested in linked open data? further discussion required 16:28:40 ... focus on network biology 16:28:52 ... goals are close; should be possible to work together 16:29:23 ... stephen friend has raised some $16M in a years time, sage bionetworks have many partners in pharma 16:30:42 i did get a chance to talk with mike about synapse and the semantic web. 16:30:42 if i understood him right, currently he doesn't believe there really is a 16:30:42 good use case to making the data available as a sparql end point. i kind 16:30:42 of agree that HCLS hasn't made a compelling case for this yet. but, on 16:30:42 the other hand, mike is working with NCBO in developing an ontology that 16:30:43 describes and drives how synapse works, which will be published via 16:30:45 bioportal. this concept is like what i worked on with mike at teranode, 16:30:47 where our customers (who, sadly, never came to be) would describe their 16:30:49 business process (how the drug pipeline worked, who reported to who,...) 16:30:51 and that would drive the UI and what options users had. 16:31:18 http://synapse.sagebase.org/#DatasetsHome:0 16:31:23 http://sagebase.org/research/Synapse1.php 16:32:07 - +1.514.864.aaee 16:34:43 re:eric's comments - I was hoping for a database connector (as usual :) ) 16:34:52 naturally 16:35:23 mscottm2: lodd 16:36:02 ... paper in journal of web semantics - should be published soon 16:36:17 ... w3c note derived from this without the use cases 16:36:28 ... solicited comments, got a few 16:37:15 ... pretty close to being done 16:37:19 ... more comments welcome 16:37:45 ... next discussion will be about future work 16:37:51 ... and approval 16:37:55 @scott, could you send the link to the note please? 16:38:20 http://goo.gl/r15nL 16:38:25 thanks 16:39:56 mscottm2: biohackathon 2011 got some people together to come up with a vocabulary to describe datasets (beyond void, etc) 16:40:22 (i think the document is ready for publication as a working draft or something of the sort ) 16:42:39 (that would actually push us to finalize it, I think :) ) 16:43:02 q+ 16:44:19 ack 16:44:37 ack iker 16:46:17 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qVSZ1n334fTTchCWS2tOaEL6z-H12pcqty98jQIg6nw/edit 16:47:45 q+ 16:48:25 q- 16:48:41 (never mind, was going to mention void, but now i saw it there in the document :) ) 16:49:11 -Joseph_Scheuhammer 16:51:25 lena: signaling pathway leads to death; take list of proteins, go in tcga by exposing the data as rdf, snps/expression. idea is to look at what is happening in the pathway at several layers of biological info, see if the changes are localized 16:51:41 ... gene, protein, snps, epigenetics 16:52:18 agenda+ bio-hackathon around BOS 16:53:14 ... patterns were previously uncovered; 1st layer epigenetics, 2nd layer snps, 3rd layer gene expression 16:53:32 ... 4th layer protein expression 16:54:48 ... lots of data (terabytes?), better to target specific data 16:55:47 https://sites.google.com/site/simsciencesnuig/project-ssg--004 16:56:08 IMO sounds really interesting!! 16:56:45 @michel, do you have a couple of minutes after the call? 16:56:45 Persons who discover new tools relevant to the HCLSIG can Tweet it using the hashtag #hclstool and I will periodically aggregate tweets with that hashtag and add these tools to the HCLSIG wiki . 16:57:40 ericP: biohackathon in Boston in June? 16:58:45 Yes! 16:59:56 Will try if I can get the visa for another meeting in June in USA 17:00:44 @ericP could you send a link to the Biohackathon website? 17:01:48 How about having one in Europe too?:) 17:02:12 Ideas for experts: Paul Groth - http://www.youtube.com/OpenPHACTS 17:02:27 Lee Harland (Pistoia, OpenPHACTS tech lead) 17:02:33 - +1.510.541.aaaa 17:02:37 -Helena 17:02:41 -matthias_samwald 17:02:43 -jun 17:02:43 -ericP 17:08:39 http://www.ebusiness-unibw.org/tools/goodrelations-annotator/ 17:09:14 rrsagent, draft minutes 17:09:14 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/02/14-HCLS-minutes.html michel 17:09:20 rrsagent, make log world-visible 17:12:47 -iker 17:12:48 -mscottm2 17:12:48 -michel 17:12:50 SW_HCLS()11:00AM has ended 17:12:50 Attendees were EricP, michel, +1.510.541.aaaa, Joseph_Scheuhammer, ScottB, +1.215.239.aacc, iker, jun, Helena, matthias_samwald, mscottm2, +1.514.864.aaee 18:32:05 egonw has joined #HCLS 18:59:18 matthias_samwald has joined #hcls 20:24:03 matthias_samwald has joined #hcls 20:24:41 matthias_samwald1 has joined #hcls 22:19:35 matthias_samwald has joined #hcls 23:34:54 Reiner has joined #hcls