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20:42:15 <olivier> zakim, this will be audio
20:42:15 <Zakim> ok, olivier; I see RWC_Audio()4:00PM scheduled to start in 18 minutes
20:42:24 <olivier> Meeting: Audio WG teleconference
20:42:28 <olivier> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-audio/2012JanMar/0237.html
20:42:39 <olivier> Agenda+ Teleconference schedule (see http://www.doodle.com/i4pecambe7a5az64)
20:42:47 <olivier> Agenda+ Prioritization of use cases 
20:42:47 <olivier> (http://www.w3.org/2011/audio/wiki/Use_Cases_and_Requirements)
20:42:56 <olivier> Agenda+ Spec differences document 
20:42:56 <olivier> (http://www.w3.org/2011/audio/wiki/Spec_Differences)
20:43:03 <olivier> rrsagent, make logs public
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20:58:18 <Zakim> RWC_Audio()4:00PM has now started
20:58:25 <Zakim> +jernoble
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20:59:47 <Zakim> +??P4
20:59:57 <quinnirill> Zakim, ??P4 is me
20:59:57 <Zakim> +quinnirill; got it
21:01:24 <Zakim> +Doug_Schepers
21:01:34 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
21:01:51 <Zakim> +??P8
21:02:23 <Zakim> +??P9
21:02:30 <olivier> zakim, ??P9 is me
21:02:30 <Zakim> +olivier; got it
21:02:40 <olivier> zakim, who is here
21:02:40 <Zakim> olivier, you need to end that query with '?'
21:02:46 <olivier> zakim, who is here?
21:02:46 <Zakim> On the phone I see jernoble, quinnirill, Doug_Schepers, [IPcaller], ??P8, olivier
21:02:48 <Zakim> On IRC I see tmichel, F1LT3R, jernoble, RRSAgent, Zakim, olivier, shepazu, foolip, kinetik, trackbot, paul___irish, quinnirill
21:03:02 <jernoble> hi oliver!
21:03:18 <olivier> zakim, ??p8 is thierry
21:03:18 <Zakim> +thierry; got it
21:04:22 <olivier> zakim, pick a victim
21:04:22 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose quinnirill
21:04:48 <olivier> Scribe: Jussi
21:04:53 <olivier> ScribeNick: quinnirill
21:04:53 <Zakim> +??P11
21:04:56 <olivier> Chair: Olivier
21:05:10 <Zakim> -jernoble
21:05:12 <olivier> zakim, ??P11 is Jer
21:05:12 <Zakim> +Jer; got it
21:05:21 <shepazu> Zakim, who's noisy?
21:05:27 <tmichel> lots of echo ...
21:05:32 <Zakim> shepazu, listening for 11 seconds I heard sound from the following: olivier (47%), Jer (100%)
21:05:58 <jernoble> zakim, ??P11 is me
21:05:58 <Zakim> I already had ??P11 as Jer, jernoble
21:06:02 <jernoble> -Jer
21:06:08 <olivier> zakim, who is here?
21:06:08 <Zakim> On the phone I see quinnirill, Doug_Schepers, [IPcaller], thierry, olivier, Jer
21:06:10 <Zakim> On IRC I see tmichel, jernoble, RRSAgent, Zakim, olivier, shepazu, foolip, kinetik, trackbot, paul___irish, quinnirill
21:06:19 <olivier> agenda?
21:06:37 <olivier> zakim, take up agendum 1
21:06:37 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Teleconference schedule (see http://www.doodle.com/i4pecambe7a5az64)" taken up [from olivier]
21:06:58 <olivier> http://www.doodle.com/i4pecambe7a5az64
21:07:30 <quinnirill> Olivier: the time that works best for most people is 7pm GMT
21:08:24 <quinnirill> Everyone: silence
21:08:48 <quinnirill> Everyone: agreed
21:08:59 <olivier> RESOLUTION: meetings will be 7pm GMT mondays from now on
21:09:52 <olivier> zakim, take up agendum 3
21:09:52 <Zakim> agendum 3. "Spec differences document" taken up [from olivier]
21:10:09 <olivier> http://www.w3.org/2011/audio/wiki/Spec_Differences
21:10:34 <quinnirill> Olivier: Al has been editing the spec differences document, is likely to contact group members for help
21:10:59 <quinnirill> Olivier: if you want to start adding to it, talk with Al or go directly to the wiki
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21:11:17 <olivier> zakim, take up agendum 2
21:11:17 <Zakim> agendum 2. "Prioritization of use cases" taken up [from olivier]
21:12:26 <quinnirill> Olivier: there will be a more formal vote about the subject
21:13:11 <quinnirill> Olivier: had a chat with James Wei (intel) about the priority of the use cases
21:13:31 <olivier> James thought all except 3, 8, 11 and 12 are high priority)
21:14:06 <shepazu> q+
21:14:18 <quinnirill> Olivier: based on whether the use cases are basic requirements or higher level
21:14:19 <olivier> ack shepazu
21:14:48 <quinnirill> Doug: we should add placeholders for the priorities in the wiki
21:14:50 <olivier> ACTION: olivier to add placeholders for priorities in UC wiki
21:14:50 <trackbot> Created ACTION-32 - Add placeholders for priorities in UC wiki [on Olivier Thereaux - due 2012-02-20].
21:15:03 <olivier> q+
21:15:39 <quinnirill> Doug: thinks the priorities should be those that are depended on by the other groups, such as WebRTC
21:16:17 <jernoble> q+
21:16:32 <quinnirill> Doug: and games, to cover use cases that are currently gapped by Flash
21:16:34 <olivier> ack olivier
21:16:45 <quinnirill> Olivier: mostly agree
21:17:17 <quinnirill> Olivier: clear demand on UC1 (WebRTC) & UC2 (developers saying they need it)
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21:18:42 <quinnirill> Doug: we should either split out use cases to simple and complex to prioritize or (??)
21:19:02 <olivier> ack jer
21:19:10 <quinnirill> Doug: or group the use cases by requirements
21:19:43 <quinnirill> jer: audio visualization also in demand
21:20:57 <olivier> Jussi: not much to add. Most demos are either using audio data api or web audio api. a lot of processing and visualisation
21:21:15 <olivier> q?
21:21:27 <philburk> q+
21:21:33 <olivier> ack phil
21:21:39 <shepazu> q+
21:22:11 <tmichel> seems quite obvious that UC1 is priority one.
21:22:42 <quinnirill> Phil: on the use cases for the online music, you wouldn't have to standardize much, but you could use existing standars, such as MIDI
21:23:04 <quinnirill> Phil: XMF is an extended midi file standard, used in phones
21:23:40 <tmichel> +1 for UC1 and UC2.
21:23:57 <quinnirill> Phil: for basic use cases, like polyphone ringtones and simple music production, standard MIDI is often enough
21:23:57 <olivier> q+
21:24:06 <olivier> ack shep
21:24:51 <quinnirill> Doug: W3C refrains from referencing to specifications that aren't royalty-free
21:25:35 <olivier> q?
21:25:39 <olivier> ack me
21:26:08 <Zakim> +??P12
21:26:10 <quinnirill> Olivier: based on what I'm hearing, UC1, UC2, UC7 seem important
21:27:37 <quinnirill> Everyone: welcome Gabriel
21:28:08 <philburk> MIDI, GeneralMIDI, XMF and DLS2 are royalty free
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21:28:50 <quinnirill> Zakim, ??P12 is Gabriel
21:28:50 <Zakim> +Gabriel; got it
21:29:46 <shepazu> Zakim, who's noisy?
21:29:54 <quinnirill> Olivier: these three use cases cover most of the ground, if you exclude (scenario-wise) complex synthesis
21:29:58 <Zakim> shepazu, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: olivier (59%)
21:30:54 <olivier> zakim, mute Gabriel
21:30:54 <Zakim> Gabriel should now be muted
21:31:39 <philburk> q+
21:31:48 <quinnirill> Olivier proposes we focus on these three use cases and then split on complexity
21:32:18 <olivier> RESOLVED: to see how large the overlap of requirements between UC 1,2 and 7 is - and split them in simple/advanced if needed
21:32:24 <quinnirill> s/split/split based
21:32:25 <olivier> ack phil
21:33:26 <quinnirill> ?: Do we need a use case for experimenting on raw audio processing
21:33:59 <quinnirill> Doug: we could make a UC for it
21:34:54 <quinnirill> ?: useful for teaching audio, etc, not very mainstream
21:34:58 <quinnirill> (was that Al?)
21:35:08 <olivier> s/?:/Phil:/
21:36:01 <quinnirill> Everyone: no objections to adjourning early
21:36:33 <quinnirill> Olivier: adjourned, thanks
21:36:43 <Zakim> -olivier
21:36:45 <Zakim> -Jer
21:36:58 <Zakim> -Gabriel
21:36:59 <Zakim> -Doug_Schepers
21:37:04 <quinnirill> Everyone: bye
21:37:09 <olivier> rrsagent, make minutes
21:37:09 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/02/13-audio-minutes.html olivier
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21:37:36 <Zakim> -quinnirill
21:37:40 <olivier> zakim, bye
21:37:40 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees were jernoble, quinnirill, Doug_Schepers, [IPcaller], olivier, thierry, Jer, Gabriel
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21:37:49 <olivier> rrsagent, make minutes
21:37:49 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/02/13-audio-minutes.html olivier
21:37:53 <olivier> rrsagent, bye
21:37:53 <RRSAgent> I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2012/02/13-audio-actions.rdf :
21:37:53 <RRSAgent> ACTION: olivier to add placeholders for priorities in UC wiki [1]
21:37:53 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/02/13-audio-irc#T21-14-50