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15:54:24 <aphillip> trackbot, prepare teleconference
15:54:27 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world
15:54:29 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 4186
15:54:29 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see I18N_CoreWG()11:00AM scheduled to start in 6 minutes
15:54:30 <trackbot> Meeting: Internationalization Core Working Group Teleconference
15:54:30 <trackbot> Date: 08 February 2012
15:55:18 <aphillip> Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2012Feb/0006.html
15:55:25 <aphillip> Chair: Addison Phillips
15:55:29 <aphillip> Scribe: Addison Phillips
15:55:33 <aphillip> ScribeNick: aphillip
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15:55:42 <aphillip> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:55:42 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/02/08-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
15:56:26 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/02/08-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
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15:59:20 <Zakim> +matial; got it
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16:01:29 <r12a> zakim, dial richard
16:01:29 <Zakim> ok, r12a; the call is being made
16:01:30 <Zakim> +Richard
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16:04:31 <Zakim> +David; got it
16:05:21 <r12a> zakim, drop richard
16:05:21 <Zakim> Richard is being disconnected
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16:05:42 <aphillip> Topic: Minutes/Agenda
16:06:23 <aphillip> Topic: Action Items
16:07:20 <aphillip> close ACTION-92
16:07:20 <trackbot> ACTION-92 Contact martin and ask if he'd like to update the misscharglyph page closed
16:07:33 <aphillip> 	Comment on behalf of WG in Unicode forum expressing support for an additional review period for UTR#50
16:07:37 <aphillip> close ACTION-93
16:07:37 <trackbot> ACTION-93 Comment on behalf of WG in Unicode forum expressing support for an additional review period for UTR#50 closed
16:08:40 <aphillip> Topic: Info Share
16:08:49 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/02/08-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
16:08:49 <r12a> http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open
16:09:39 <r12a> http://www.multilingualweb.eu/documents/limerick-workshop/limerick-workshop-report
16:09:56 <aphillip> richard: report on the multilingual workshop (above)
16:10:04 <aphillip> richard: @translate added to HTML5
16:10:20 <r12a> http://www.w3.org/blog/International/2012/02/06/new-tests-html5-bidi/
16:10:20 <aphillip> richard: new bidi tests from aharon and compnay
16:10:31 <aphillip> s/compnay/company/
16:10:38 <aphillip> ... mainly about <bdi>
16:11:07 <aphillip> Topic: IME API 
16:11:10 <r12a> http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ime-api/raw-file/default/Overview.html
16:11:17 <aphillip> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2012Feb/0008.html
16:11:18 <r12a> http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ime-api/raw-file/default/use-cases/Overview.html
16:11:32 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'draft minute', aphillip.  Try /msg RRSAgent help
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16:11:41 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/02/08-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
16:12:32 <aphillip> richard: the above are proposed in the webapps charter
16:12:40 <aphillip> ... could we have a look at the above?
16:16:46 <aphillip> ACTION: addison: add IME documents to review radar, write to webapps requesting formal notifications at appropriate review points
16:16:46 <trackbot> Created ACTION-96 - Add IME documents to review radar, write to webapps requesting formal notifications at appropriate review points [on Addison Phillips - due 2012-02-15].
16:18:18 <aphillip> norbert: might want to note that this won't be easy
16:18:27 <aphillip> ... many kinds of input systems (e.g. handwriting)
16:18:52 <aphillip> Topic: Ruby Discussion
16:19:44 <r12a> http://www.w3.org/International/wiki/Rb
16:20:06 <aphillip> richard: a few changes to the wiki
16:20:15 <aphillip> ... added sections called "does it support use case"
16:20:19 <aphillip> ... and added summary
16:20:31 <aphillip> ... see bottom
16:21:21 <aphillip> richard: need to resolve this by 11th of February or write a change proposal
16:21:36 <aphillip> ... don't think we can do that
16:21:41 <aphillip> ... still hearing new ideas
16:22:00 <aphillip> ... problem we have is that the arbitrary date caused by murata's escalation
16:22:13 <aphillip> ... discussed in interaction domain meeting
16:22:21 <aphillip> ... mike smith has spoken with leif 
16:22:30 <aphillip> ... asking him to withdraw it
16:22:55 <aphillip> ... if not withdrawn, then html5 proposal has to be considered
16:24:00 <aphillip> ... leif will do so if richard posts on list saying we're investigating
16:24:12 <aphillip> richard: mike suggests turning wiki into note
16:24:46 <aphillip> ... and then author WD separate from HTML5, get impl support, and then ask for it to be integrated
16:26:25 <kojiishi> Mike told me that i18n WG's charter allows us to write notes, but not WD?
16:27:11 <aphillip> addison: we can write notes, but not REC; can write REC as part of HTML
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16:29:09 <kojiishi> zakim, ipcaller is me
16:29:09 <Zakim> +kojiishi; got it
16:32:16 <kojiishi> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13113#c0
16:32:37 <kojiishi> Mozilla is blocked by this bug, but is interested in implmenting
16:34:42 <aphillip> richard needs to write to public-html making a statement asking for Leif's withdrawl pending future activity by I18N WG and interested implementers to complete the ruby specification that we need
16:34:59 <aphillip> ... and add something like that to the bug
16:37:47 <aphillip> action: richard: write to public-html asking for end of escalation pending future work by i18n
16:37:47 <trackbot> Created ACTION-97 - Write to public-html asking for end of escalation pending future work by i18n [on Richard Ishida - due 2012-02-15].
16:38:05 <aphillip> action: richard: update ruby bug with summary of current situation and asking for no re-escalation
16:38:05 <trackbot> Created ACTION-98 - Update ruby bug with summary of current situation and asking for no re-escalation [on Richard Ishida - due 2012-02-15].
16:38:28 <aphillip> richard: then need to create plan for creating documents
16:38:58 <aphillip> addison: can turn wiki into note
16:39:05 <aphillip> richard: but need an editor to work on draft
16:39:27 <aphillip> koji: volunteers to be co-editor
16:41:02 <kojiishi> is it possible for Richard to be one of editors?
16:41:52 <kojiishi> We can ask fantasai but she has a lot of things on her table
16:42:24 <kojiishi> It's probably good to ask her help, but if we can do most of edits work, I think that works the best
16:45:46 <aphillip> chair: do we agree that the way forward is to create a note with requirements and then create a WD/spec separate from HTML for implementation?
16:46:07 <kojiishi> no objections
16:46:12 <David> no objection
16:46:13 <matial> OK
16:46:15 <r12a> no objection
16:46:15 <aphillip> john: no objection
16:46:16 <joconner1> no objections
16:46:17 <andrewc> ok
16:46:18 <fsasaki> no objections
16:46:21 <Norbert> agree
16:46:29 <aphillip> addison: agree
16:46:36 <r12a> agree too
16:46:47 <aphillip> chair: so resolved :-)
16:47:01 <David> I agree
16:48:37 <aphillip> richard: have a look at the wiki and send comments in
16:48:51 <aphillip> ... haven't finished tidying of new stuff
16:48:56 <aphillip> ... but the main ideas are there
16:49:12 <aphillip> Topic: AOB?
16:50:04 <aphillip> rrsagent, make minutes
16:50:04 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/02/08-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
16:50:48 <joconner1> in response to richard, i commit to reading the wiki pages and getting up to speed on background info regarding ruby
16:51:16 <kojiishi> Thank you so much to Richard and Addison for all the staff!
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16:51:57 <Zakim> Attendees were matial, Richard, fsasaki, +41.41.888.aaaa, Addison_Phillips, andrewc, +1.415.885.aabb, +1.408.536.aacc, Norbert, David, kojiishi, joconner1
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16:52:41 <aphillip> rrsagent, make minutes
16:52:41 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/02/08-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
16:53:18 <aphillip> Present: Addison, Richard, Koji, David, Norbert, Andrew, Mati, Felix, John
16:53:31 <aphillip> rrsagent, make minutes
16:53:31 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/02/08-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
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17:00:50 <joconner> Richard, in your opinion, how can I serve the wg the best at this point? i will read all the ruby material to get updated, but are there other things that need attention as well?
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