15:56:37 RRSAgent has joined #HCLS 15:56:37 logging to http://www.w3.org/2012/02/07-HCLS-irc 15:56:50 bbalsa has joined #HCLS 15:56:54 Chair: michel 15:58:32 amrapali has joined #hcls 16:00:53 zakim, help 16:00:53 Please refer to http://www.w3.org/2001/12/zakim-irc-bot for more detailed help. 16:00:55 Some of the commands I know are: 16:00:55 xxx is yyy - establish yyy as the name of unknown party xxx 16:00:55 if yyy is 'me' or 'I', your nick is substituted 16:00:55 xxx may be yyy - establish yyy as possibly the name of unknown party xxx 16:00:55 I am xxx - establish your nick as the name of unknown party xxx 16:00:56 xxx holds yyy [, zzz ...] - establish xxx as a group name and yyy, etc. as participants within that group 16:00:59 xxx also holds yyy - add yyy to the list of participants in group xxx 16:01:00 who's here? - lists the participants on the phone 16:01:03 who's muted? - lists the participants who are muted 16:01:04 mute xxx - mutes party xxx (like pressing 61#) 16:01:07 unmute xxx - reverses the effect of "mute" and of 61# 16:01:08 is xxx here? - reports whether a party named like xxx is present 16:01:10 list conferences - reports the active conferences 16:01:13 this is xxx - associates this channel with conference xxx 16:01:14 zakim, who's here? 16:01:15 excuse us - disconnects from the irc channel 16:01:17 I last learned something new on $Date: 2012/02/01 21:15:02 $ 16:01:19 sorry, oliver, I don't know what conference this is 16:01:24 On IRC I see amrapali, bbalsa, RRSAgent, Zakim, oliver, michel, MacTed, ericP 16:01:41 zakim, this is hcls 16:01:41 ok, michel; that matches SW_HCLS()11:00AM 16:01:57 zakim, who's here? 16:01:57 On the phone I see Kerstin_Forsberg, +1.617.818.aaaa, +1.832.386.aabb 16:01:58 On IRC I see amrapali, bbalsa, RRSAgent, Zakim, oliver, michel, MacTed, ericP 16:02:19 Lena has joined #hcls 16:02:30 +[IPcaller] 16:02:34 +??P5 16:02:35 zakim, +1.617.818.aaaa is me 16:02:35 +oliver; got it 16:02:45 zakim, [IPcaller] is michel 16:02:45 +michel; got it 16:02:46 matthias_samwald has joined #hcls 16:03:10 + +46.7.08.13.aacc 16:03:41 I hear mostly static on the phone, any one hears more? 16:03:48 zakim, +46.7.08.13.aacc is Bosse 16:03:48 +Bosse; got it 16:03:53 zakim, who is making noise 16:03:53 I don't understand 'who is making noise', michel 16:04:09 zakim, who is making noise? 16:04:09 +EricP 16:04:19 michel, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: ??P5 (100%), oliver (60%), EricP (28%) 16:04:28 Zakim, please mute ??P5 16:04:28 ??P5 should now be muted 16:04:53 amrapaliz has joined #hcls 16:05:01 mscottm2 has joined #hcls 16:05:14 I'm getting "this passcode is not valid" 16:05:28 probably because there's more than 10 users 16:05:43 ericP: can we get a bigger "room" ? 16:06:04 zakim, mute me 16:06:07 oliver should now be muted 16:06:49 4257 is the right code, non? 16:06:52 +Joseph_Scheuhammer 16:07:00 epichler has joined #HCLS 16:07:02 yes 16:07:07 ericP is working on it 16:07:46 sometimes there's a backup when lots of people dial in at once 16:07:49 so try again 16:07:56 we have a res for 30 16:08:02 Zakim, who's here? 16:08:02 On the phone I see Kerstin_Forsberg, oliver (muted), +1.832.386.aabb, michel, ??P5 (muted), Bosse, EricP, Joseph_Scheuhammer 16:08:04 On IRC I see epichler, mscottm2, amrapaliz, matthias_samwald, Lena, amrapali, bbalsa, RRSAgent, Zakim, oliver, michel, MacTed, ericP 16:08:55 skype is also an option ;) 16:09:07 or evo ;) 16:09:08 but not integration with w3c cool stuff 16:09:14 or google phone 16:09:32 +EricP.a 16:09:38 -EricP.a 16:09:52 zakim, unmute ??P5 16:09:52 ??P5 should no longer be muted 16:09:58 be back in five minutes 16:10:14 eric asks who is having trouble dialing in 16:10:41 might have been me 16:10:45 I'm on mute now 16:11:04 im trying to call now 16:12:08 ok, i'm back 16:12:15 yes, please +49 341 97-32367 16:13:00 http://www.w3.org/wiki/HCLSIG/Organization 16:13:08 -Kerstin_Forsberg 16:14:20 + +1.510.541.aadd 16:14:30 +Kerstin_Forsberg 16:14:58 +Philippe 16:15:26 -EricP 16:17:12 scribenick: ericP 16:17:29 michel: [reviews the organization chart] 16:17:37 -> http://www.w3.org/wiki/HCLSIG/Organization organization chart 16:19:01 michel: this subtle re-org is intended to bring together task forces which need to coordinate 16:19:16 ... and to bring engage TF members' organizations 16:19:31 ... hoping to hear feedback from y'all 16:19:40 +1 16:19:46 matthias_samwald: i like it a lot 16:19:57 ... far more streamlined 16:20:13 ... the organization around a single telecon per week is a good idea 16:21:16 ... when i was trying to work on several task forces, it was difficult to dial in many times per week for potentially redundant calls 16:21:32 michel: is it your preference to have just one meeting? 16:22:01 ... i expect the other meetings may occur, but they may change in frequency and focus 16:22:27 matthias_samwald: this can be left to the task forces 16:22:42 ... i've also been a fan of discussions via email and google groups 16:23:53 ... i haven't found the coordination of the phone calls completely necessary 16:24:18 ericP: please be mindful of visibility on public-semweb-lifesci@w3.org 16:24:53 michel: periodically, task forces should post on the mailing list 16:25:30 ... sending an update to the list before the monthly call could help folks understand which calls would be interesting to them 16:25:50 ericP: we have a wiki that should be used 16:26:16 michel: we record minutes via IRC 16:27:25 -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-semweb-lifesci/ public-semweb-lifesci mail archive 16:27:39 michel: can we search the archives? 16:28:11 ericP: [after saying stupid stuff] yes, note the search box in the archive pave 16:29:58 michel: we have an opportunity to redevelop the task force messages 16:30:19 ... the TF leads should try to keep the TF pages pretty clear 16:30:41 +1 16:31:30 ericP: create a map of the data 16:31:30 + +1.518.276.aaee 16:31:54 JoanneLuciano has joined #hcls 16:32:15 +1 16:32:20 That sounds like Eric P speaking. 16:32:45 ericP: [pitch for data maps] 16:32:48 + +1.215.239.aaff 16:32:53 -Bosse 16:32:56 http://neuroscientific.net/res/ismb2007/poster-under-construction.png 16:33:03 zakim, +1.518.276.aaee is JoanneLuciano 16:33:03 +JoanneLuciano; got it 16:33:07 Hi Michel! Sorry to be late. I had to juggle 2 meetings to get on just now. 16:33:10 matthias_samwald: i created a data map during the first iteration of the HCLS IG 16:33:25 iker has joined #hcls 16:33:59 From Matthias: http://neuroscientific.net/res/ismb2007/poster-under-construction.png 16:34:49 (i need to go in a few mins) 16:35:01 - +1.832.386.aabb 16:35:04 JoanneLuciano: i did a graphic of how the task forces were covering data spaces 16:35:19 +Bosse 16:36:46 ericP: [pitch for using hypertext, a la , for the data map] 16:37:13 michel: we're targeting people who are working at e.g. pharmas, biotechs, health care, to give us feedback 16:37:46 ... would like to draw a recruitment/speaker list 16:38:54 ... will create a googledoc 16:38:55 http://goo.gl/nB68I 16:38:58 ericP: wiki? 16:39:17 michel: conflict resolution better in google doc 16:39:46 epichler: do we want them to participate or ...? [scibe got behind] 16:39:56 michel: to bring us to end users 16:40:13 ... so when we do stuff, we can ping them when we produce stuff relevent to their interests 16:40:45 ... they might not be in the TF, devoting time to it, but part of the larger community 16:40:59 epichler: do they need to be members to steer us? 16:41:21 ... are they committed to HCLS vs. SemWeb tool providers 16:41:50 ... was hard to allocate resources to W3C 16:42:14 ... OTOH, in a large company, if you want to do a project, you arrive with specific requirements, test cases, etc. 16:42:31 ... that's a level above just listening to stories 16:42:36 -michel 16:42:48 zakim, ??P5 is michel 16:42:48 +michel; got it 16:43:12 I just lost contact with Zakim via Matthias's skype. 16:43:41 back again but I don't hear anyone speaking 16:44:10 be there in a minute.. 16:44:39 +??P3 16:44:58 i (plus scott) dropped out, now back again. 16:45:41 ericP: [discussion with JoanneLuciano about grants] 16:45:48 topic: looking forward 1 year: 16:46:27 charlie: coming from clinical trials, we could really benefit from SemWeb, and don't even know what can happen 16:46:36 ... IMI project is starting to understsand 16:46:51 i have to follow up off-line, but I am willing to work on this and will follow-up with whoever is intersted. I apologize that this time slot didn't work for me today. I'm also VERY interested in the IMI project i the UK. 16:46:51 ... ONC is still quite naieve about SemWeb 16:47:22 ... there's a fundamental disconnect between folks approaching from UML pathways and those coming from Ontologies 16:48:03 ... would like these communities to understand to the sweet spot between UML, OWL, and latent semantic indexing 16:48:11 Also, if any of you can make it to Boston for CSHALS -- this is the conference specifically on SEMANTICS in Health Care and Life Science. 16:48:16 ... would like HCLS to educate the community 16:48:22 -JoanneLuciano 16:48:59 michel: we've accumulated a lot of knowledge and experience in building SemWeb apps 16:49:08 ... folks don't know how to do that well 16:49:23 ... how to build linked data is still burried in publications 16:49:43 ... web-based tutorials would help 16:50:04 ... would like to connect linked life data which fits into the larger semantic web 16:50:15 ... also, new relationships with organizations 16:50:29 ... NCI, NCBI, OpenPHACTs, etc. 16:50:42 ... reflect their use cases in our activities 16:51:06 ... encourages them to participate and commit resources towards shared resources 16:51:22 ... we have to make sure our tools, techs and DBs are accessible 16:51:34 ... we create one-offs 16:51:47 ... we need to make sure our resources are available long-term 16:51:58 -Joseph_Scheuhammer 16:52:16 ... JoanneLuciano raised the issue of funding and these activities need folks who are dedicated to maintenance 16:52:42 Oops! 16:53:15 q+ 16:56:45 ericP: [discussed looking at externally-created ontologies and data] 16:57:00 mscottm2: CDC would benefit from and app to @@1 16:57:07 ... UK gov't approachable 16:57:37 ... SAGE Bionetworks has a similar set of goals and missions, though not necessarily using SemWeb 16:57:43 ... we should engage with them 16:58:08 ... e.g. help them create a SPARQL endpoint for Synapse 16:58:19 ... shouldn't HCLS response to research works act? 16:59:07 ... (the move by publishers to put publicly resources behind a paywall) 17:00:42 +1 Michel's opinion 17:00:47 :) 17:05:10 topic: wrap-up 17:05:44 - +1.510.541.aadd 17:05:47 - +1.215.239.aaff 17:05:50 michel: next tuesday Life Siences domain (per ) 17:05:54 -michel 17:05:56 -Bosse 17:05:58 -ericP 17:05:59 -??P3 17:06:06 -Kerstin_Forsberg 17:06:17 Thanks again Matthias for connecting me to Zakim via skype. 17:06:24 -oliver 17:06:26 SW_HCLS()11:00AM has ended 17:06:26 Attendees were Kerstin_Forsberg, +1.832.386.aabb, oliver, michel, Bosse, EricP, Joseph_Scheuhammer, +1.510.541.aadd, +1.215.239.aaff, JoanneLuciano 17:15:33 matthias_samwald has joined #hcls 17:55:34 michel has joined #hcls 17:55:37 rrsagent, draft minutes 17:55:37 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/02/07-HCLS-minutes.html michel 17:55:47 rrsagent, make log world-visible 18:52:35 matthias_samwald has joined #hcls 18:58:43 Zakim has left #HCLS