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16:01:08 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 4186
16:01:08 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see I18N_CoreWG()11:00AM scheduled to start now
16:01:09 <trackbot> Meeting: Internationalization Core Working Group Teleconference
16:01:09 <trackbot> Date: 01 February 2012
16:01:43 <r12a> zakim, dial richard
16:01:43 <Zakim> ok, r12a; the call is being made
16:01:44 <Zakim> I18N_CoreWG()11:00AM has now started
16:01:45 <Zakim> +Richard
16:02:06 <Zakim> +??P8
16:02:09 <r12a> zakim, who's here ?
16:02:09 <Zakim> On the phone I see Richard, ??P8
16:02:12 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, David, matial, r12a, trackbot
16:02:23 <matial> zakim, ??P8  is me
16:02:27 <Zakim> +matial; got it
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16:03:19 <aphillip> trackbot, prepare teleconference
16:03:24 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world
16:03:26 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 4186
16:03:27 <trackbot> Meeting: Internationalization Core Working Group Teleconference
16:03:27 <trackbot> Date: 01 February 2012
16:03:28 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see I18N_CoreWG()11:00AM scheduled to start 3 minutes ago
16:03:36 <r12a> oops, that's twice addison
16:04:20 <Zakim> +David
16:04:54 <Zakim> +??P26
16:05:03 <kojiishi> zakim, ??p26 is me
16:05:03 <Zakim> +kojiishi; got it
16:05:10 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/02/01-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
16:05:27 <aphillip> Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2012Feb/0000.html
16:05:41 <aphillip> Chair: Addison Phillips
16:05:48 <aphillip> Scribe: Addison Phillips
16:05:51 <aphillip> ScribeNick: aphillip
16:06:07 <aphillip> Topic: Minutes/Agenda
16:06:24 <aphillip> Topic: Action Items
16:06:54 <r12a> http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open
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16:07:29 <aphillip> close ACTION-91
16:07:29 <trackbot> ACTION-91 Write to CSS style list strongly opposing surrogate pair escapes in CSS and citing CharMod closed
16:07:57 <aphillip> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2012JanMar/0029.html
16:08:23 <Zakim> + +1.415.885.aaaa
16:09:22 <r12a> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2012Feb/0006.html
16:10:21 <aphillip> Topic: Info Share
16:10:39 <r12a> q+
16:11:14 <aphillip> Microsoft is supporting the <bdi> tag in IE (IE11??)
16:11:44 <aphillip> ack r12a
16:12:08 <aphillip> richard: last night (my night) Unicode 6.1 was released
16:12:18 <r12a> http://www.w3.org/blog/International/2012/02/01/unicode-version-6-1-announced/
16:12:30 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/02/01-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
16:12:36 <r12a> http://rishida.net/scripts/uniview/
16:12:42 <aphillip> ... and my Uniview is 6.1 enabled
16:12:59 <r12a> http://rishida.net/blog/?p=791
16:13:57 <David> firefox releas note saying <bdi> is supported http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/10.0/releasenotes/
16:14:11 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/02/01-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
16:14:46 <aphillip> Topic: Selecting glyph variants
16:14:54 <aphillip>    http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2012JanMar/0026.html
16:15:29 <aphillip> http://www.w3.org/International/O-MissCharGlyph#GlyphVariant
16:17:10 <aphillip> norbert: anyone read this?
16:17:23 <aphillip> richard: at least four
16:20:38 <aphillip> richard: L10N World will be in Paris in June and they want a one-day Unicode track
16:20:56 <aphillip> ... and they are interested in having more speakers; contact me if interested
16:21:15 <aphillip> ... that was an impromtu info share
16:22:00 <aphillip> richard: could put in a  general para
16:22:19 <aphillip> ... Css3 is putting in some properties for selecting variant glyphs
16:22:25 <aphillip> ... and are beginning to be implemented
16:22:29 <aphillip> ... and leave it at that
16:26:12 <aphillip> ACTION: addison: contact martin and ask if he'd like to update the misscharglyph page
16:26:12 <trackbot> Created ACTION-92 - Contact martin and ask if he'd like to update the misscharglyph page [on Addison Phillips - due 2012-02-08].
16:26:29 <aphillip> norbert: and mention all the other things that need repair (unicode 3.2 links, etc.)
16:26:58 <aphillip> Topic: Code Points and CSS
16:28:15 <aphillip> Topic: Ruby Discussion
16:28:56 <aphillip> koji: will summarize
16:31:08 <aphillip> ... mike thinks HTML WG won't accept change
16:36:13 <aphillip> richard: need to mention accessibility issue?
16:36:34 <aphillip> koji: adding examples of double-sided ruby
16:37:52 <aphillip> addison: need to pull together at our next week
16:38:04 <aphillip> s/next week/next week's teleconference/
16:38:27 <aphillip> Topic: AOB?
16:38:57 <aphillip> richard: need to look at pipelines and radars?
16:39:19 <r12a> http://www.w3.org/International/wiki/Core_Pipeline
16:39:44 <aphillip> Koji: UTR#50
16:39:56 <aphillip> ... feedback closed January 30th
16:40:09 <aphillip> ... and UTC meeting upcoming (conflicts with Style meeting)
16:40:20 <aphillip> ... still unstable and may need another review period
16:40:38 <aphillip> ... microsoft said they might propose a different proposal
16:40:43 <aphillip> ... but work delayed until next week
16:40:48 <aphillip> ... so not until right before UTC
16:40:55 <aphillip> ... so may be two proposals appearing
16:40:59 <aphillip> ... and have review period for that
16:41:04 <aphillip> ... that's what I hope
16:41:10 <aphillip> ... but up to UTC
16:41:46 <kojiishi> http://www.unicode.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=250
16:42:39 <aphillip> chair: anyone oppose/support opinion for more review needed?
16:43:04 <aphillip> richard: need to put on review radar
16:43:11 <aphillip> koji: scope issue
16:43:30 <aphillip> ... currently tries to handle both spacing between characters (only for Japanese)
16:43:34 <aphillip> ... and also vertical
16:43:44 <aphillip> ... fantasai and I suggest separate spec for that
16:43:58 <aphillip> ... need a globally scoped vertical spec
16:44:08 <aphillip> ... maybe microsoft supports same opinion
16:44:13 <aphillip> ... but editor disagrees
16:44:17 <aphillip> ... spacing is very complex
16:44:49 <aphillip> ... in link above I requested both additional review and to remove spacing classes
16:46:19 <aphillip> ACTION: addison: comment on behalf of WG in Unicode forum expressing support for an additional review period for UTR#50
16:46:20 <trackbot> Created ACTION-93 - Comment on behalf of WG in Unicode forum expressing support for an additional review period for UTR#50 [on Addison Phillips - due 2012-02-08].
16:46:47 <r12a> http://www.w3.org/International/wiki/Core_Pipeline
16:47:10 <aphillip> JLReq2 now out of wide review
16:56:34 <aphillip> http://www.w3.org/International/wiki/Review_radar