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16:01:44 <sangwhan> zakim, who is on the call?
16:01:44 <Zakim> sorry, sangwhan, I don't know what conference this is
16:01:45 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, Zakim, ArtB, scott_gonzalez, sangwhan, shepazu, lgombos, mbrubeck, Josh_Soref, trackbot
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16:02:40 <ArtB> ScribeNick: ArtB
16:02:43 <ArtB> Scribe: Art
16:02:48 <ArtB> Date: 31 January 2012
16:03:02 <ArtB> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webevents/2012JanMar/0014.html
16:03:12 <chaals> zakim, this is webevents
16:03:12 <Zakim> sorry, chaals, I do not see a conference named 'webevents' in progress or scheduled at this time
16:03:26 <chaals> zakim, schedule?
16:03:26 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, chaals.
16:03:33 <shepazu> trackbot, start telcon
16:03:34 <chaals> zakim, meetings on now?
16:03:34 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, chaals.
16:03:35 <ArtB> zakim, this is RWC_WebEven
16:03:36 <Zakim> ok, ArtB; that matches RWC_WebEven()11:00AM
16:03:37 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world
16:03:39 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be event
16:03:40 <trackbot> Meeting: Web Events Working Group Teleconference
16:03:40 <trackbot> Date: 31 January 2012
16:03:42 <Zakim> I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, trackbot
16:03:46 <sangwhan> zakim, who is on the call?
16:03:46 <ArtB> RRSAgent, make log Public
16:03:51 <Zakim> I notice RWC_WebEven()11:00AM has restarted
16:03:53 <Zakim> On the phone I see ??P20, ??P26, +358.718.00aaaa
16:03:56 <ArtB> Meeting: Web Events WG Voice Conference
16:04:09 <sangwhan> zakim, who is making noise?
16:04:21 <Zakim> sangwhan, listening for 11 seconds I heard sound from the following: ??P20 (11%), ??P26 (87%), +358.718.00aaaa (4%)
16:04:29 <sangwhan> zakim, ??P20 is me
16:04:29 <Zakim> +sangwhan; got it
16:04:41 <Zakim> +Doug_Schepers
16:04:52 <chaals> zakim, ??P26 is me
16:04:52 <Zakim> +chaals; got it
16:05:10 <ArtB> Present: Art_Barstow, Doug_Schepers, Sangwhan_Moon, Charles_McCathieNevile
16:05:23 <chaals> zakim, who is here?
16:05:23 <Zakim> On the phone I see sangwhan, chaals, +358.718.00aaaa, Doug_Schepers
16:05:24 <Zakim> On IRC I see chaals, RRSAgent, Zakim, ArtB, scott_gonzalez, sangwhan, shepazu, lgombos, mbrubeck, Josh_Soref, trackbot
16:05:25 <ArtB> Topic: Tweak Agenda
16:05:38 <Zakim> + +1.717.578.aabb
16:05:44 <ArtB> AB: I posted the draft agenda a few hours ago http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webevents/2012JanMar/0014.html
16:06:05 <chaals> Present+ Scott_Gonzalez
16:06:27 <Zakim> +Matt_Brubeck
16:06:36 <mbrubeck> Zakim, I am Matt_Brubeck
16:06:36 <Zakim> ok, mbrubeck, I now associate you with Matt_Brubeck
16:07:28 <Zakim> + +1.781.534.aacc
16:08:06 <lgombos> Zakim, +1.781.534.aacc is me
16:08:06 <Zakim> +lgombos; got it
16:08:18 <ArtB> Present+ Laszlo_Gombos
16:08:50 <mbrubeck> Zakim, who is on the call?
16:08:50 <Zakim> On the phone I see sangwhan, chaals, +358.718.00aaaa, Doug_Schepers, +1.717.578.aabb, Matt_Brubeck, lgombos
16:09:04 <mbrubeck> Zakim, who is making noise?
16:09:10 <chaals> zakim, aabb is Scott_Gonzalez
16:09:10 <Zakim> +Scott_Gonzalez; got it
16:09:14 <Zakim> mbrubeck, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: +358.718.00aaaa (5%)
16:09:16 <sangwhan> zakim, +1.717.578.aabb is scott_gonzalez
16:09:17 <Zakim> sorry, sangwhan, I do not recognize a party named '+1.717.578.aabb'
16:09:24 <sangwhan> zakim, 1.717.578.aabb is scott_gonzalez
16:09:24 <Zakim> sorry, sangwhan, I do not recognize a party named '1.717.578.aabb'
16:09:26 <ArtB> Topic: Scott Gonzalez Introduction
16:09:32 <mbrubeck> Zakim, aaaa is Art_Barstow
16:09:32 <Zakim> +Art_Barstow; got it
16:09:37 <ArtB> SG: I am working on jQuery UI
16:09:43 <ArtB> … normalizing diff pointer events
16:09:49 <sangwhan> zakim, who is on the call?
16:09:49 <Zakim> On the phone I see sangwhan, chaals, Art_Barstow, Doug_Schepers, Scott_Gonzalez, Matt_Brubeck, lgombos
16:09:49 <ArtB> … draggable, etc.
16:09:59 <ArtB> … anything that can be accomplished with a single touch
16:10:15 <ArtB> … jQuery core will eventually want to cover anything spec'ed by the W3C
16:10:29 <ArtB> … We want to help move the specs forward
16:10:34 <chaals> s/cover anything/normalise everything to whatever is/
16:10:39 <ArtB> … Wondering if there is considering Msft's model
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16:11:54 <ArtB> DS: we did consider something like Msft pointer model
16:12:02 <ArtB> … there is something like that in D3Events
16:12:09 <ArtB> … it was similar but primitive
16:12:11 <chaals> s/model/model. We're looking for something small that covers all pointers/
16:12:16 <ArtB> … Sangwhan also proposed something similar
16:12:38 <ArtB> … We ultimately decided Webkit had more impl so we rallied around that
16:12:55 <ArtB> … I would be interested in talking with Msft about their model
16:13:06 <ArtB> … Would like Scott to participate in the Wg
16:13:25 <ArtB> … think Scott can provide valuable input
16:13:40 <ArtB> … The PAG is formed and it will influence our spec
16:13:48 <ArtB> SG: I can join the telecons
16:14:32 <ArtB> ACTION: doug get Scott Gonzalez added as an Invited Expert
16:14:33 <trackbot> Created ACTION-93 - Get Scott Gonzalez added as an Invited Expert [on Doug Schepers - due 2012-02-07].
16:14:52 <Zakim> -Scott_Gonzalez
16:15:06 <ArtB> Topic: Touch Events PAG
16:15:22 <ArtB> AB: I want to be very clear that we will NOT talk about any specific patents
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16:16:10 <ArtB> AB: charter is http://www.w3.org/2012/01/touch-pag-charter
16:17:57 <ArtB> … PAG participants http://www.w3.org/2004/01/pp-impl/45559/status
16:19:40 <ArtB> … Patent Policy identifies potential "conclusions" http://www.w3.org/Consortium/Patent-Policy-20040205/#sec-PAG-conclude
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16:22:03 <ArtB> … typically there is a call for prior art
16:22:27 <ArtB> … there can also be a request for analysis oriented toward working around the patents
16:26:25 <shepazu> https://www.w3.org/2003/12/LegalDefenseFund.html
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16:38:26 <ArtB> AB: one question is what do we do now
16:38:34 <ArtB> DS: we could continue to work on test cases
16:38:43 <ArtB> … we could also look at some other approaches
16:38:53 <ArtB> … we don't have to wait for the PAG
16:48:24 <ArtB> Topic: AoB
16:48:41 <ArtB> DS: what about Scott
16:48:49 <ArtB> AB: please go forward
16:48:52 <ArtB> MC: +1
16:48:54 <ArtB> MB: +1
16:48:58 <Zakim> -lgombos
16:49:00 <Zakim> -Doug_Schepers
16:49:01 <Zakim> -Art_Barstow
16:49:03 <Zakim> -sangwhan
16:49:06 <Zakim> -chaals
16:49:07 <ArtB> AB: meeting adjourned
16:49:11 <ArtB> RRSAgent, make minutes
16:49:11 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/01/31-webevents-minutes.html ArtB
16:49:12 <Zakim> -Matt_Brubeck
16:49:13 <Zakim> RWC_WebEven()11:00AM has ended
16:49:15 <Zakim> Attendees were +358.718.00aaaa, sangwhan, Doug_Schepers, chaals, +1.717.578.aabb, Matt_Brubeck, lgombos, Scott_Gonzalez, Art_Barstow
16:49:30 <ArtB> RRSAgent, make log Public
16:49:36 <ArtB> RRSAgent, make minutes
16:49:36 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/01/31-webevents-minutes.html ArtB
16:49:58 <ArtB> Chair: Art
16:50:13 <ArtB> RRSAgent, make minutes
16:50:13 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/01/31-webevents-minutes.html ArtB
16:55:22 <ArtB> zakim, bye
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