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19:49:44 <Jan> Zakim, this will be AUWG
19:49:44 <Zakim> ok, Jan; I see WAI_AUWG()3:00PM scheduled to start in 11 minutes
19:49:49 <Jan> Meeting: WAI AU
19:50:18 <Jan> Agenda:http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2012JanMar/0018.html
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20:00:12 <Zakim> WAI_AUWG()3:00PM has now started
20:00:19 <Zakim> +??P4
20:00:29 <Jan> zakim, ??P4 is really Jan
20:00:29 <Zakim> +Jan; got it
20:01:07 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
20:01:31 <Zakim> +Jeanne
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20:01:41 <Jan> zakim, [IPcaller] is really Jutta
20:01:42 <Zakim> +Jutta; got it
20:01:54 <Jan> Chair: Jutta Treviranus
20:02:35 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
20:03:40 <Jan> zakim, [IPcaller] is really Alastair
20:03:40 <Zakim> +Alastair; got it
20:04:02 <Zakim> +??P2
20:04:21 <Jan> zakim, ??P2 is really Andrew
20:04:21 <Zakim> +Andrew; got it
20:04:31 <Jan> Scribe: Jan
20:04:51 <Zakim> +Greg
20:04:55 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
20:05:07 <Zakim> -Jan
20:06:14 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
20:06:35 <Jan> zakim, [IPcaller] is really Alex
20:06:35 <Zakim> +Alex; got it
20:06:45 <Jan> Topic: 1. Is the group satisfied with the "accessible content" proposal
20:07:07 <Jan> JT: Status of meeting with WCAG, Jeanne?
20:07:25 <Jan> JS: Will take care of that this PM
20:07:32 <Jan> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2012JanMar/0014.html
20:07:51 <Jan> JT: Suggestions, concerns - we brought it up last week?
20:08:35 <Jan> Alex: What is the goal of the meeting?
20:08:48 <Jan> JT: Mutually agreeable solution.
20:09:26 <Jan> AL: Would we be ok with a search-and-replace term?
20:11:02 <Jan> AL: Is there a list of terms.
20:11:12 <Jan> JR: I sent a list to WAI-CG a while back
20:11:45 <Jan> AL: Right, accessibility can be a loaded term
20:14:15 <Jan> GP: WCAG has a note on this
20:14:59 <Jan> AL: What about WCAG conformant
20:16:49 <Jan> JR: Then there is the "accessibility supported" issue
20:17:13 <Jan> JS: For me , readability is the most important issue
20:17:33 <Zakim> +Tim_Boland
20:17:37 <Jan> GP: How can you describe "accessible" without that term?
20:17:49 <Jan> AL: Its all complicated by context of use etc.
20:18:03 <Tim> Tim has joined #au
20:18:14 <Jan> AL: And WCAG has been very careful to describe that and the y just want us to respect that
20:19:10 <Jan> GP: Reads WCAG's disclaimer note...
20:19:36 <Jan> AL: But WCAG2 does not use term accessible in the SC's
20:20:15 <Jan> JS: OK to remove from our SC but want to keep in principles and guidelihnes
20:20:45 <Jan> AL: Assuming we are entering a negotiation...know your bottom line ahead of time
20:23:15 <Jan> AC: I support the proposed text...not trying to be hard line...just wondering what compromise would look like.
20:24:20 <Jan> JT: I hear the group saying we should start with our proposal here, trying to keep our document simple
20:24:24 <Jan> AC: Agreed
20:24:28 <Jan> GP: Agreed
20:24:56 <Jan> JT: So Jeanne, you will set up meeting?
20:24:58 <Jan> JS: Yes
20:25:08 <Jan> Topic: 2. Copy-paste and ATAG2 B.1.2.1 Restructuring and Recoding Transformations
20:25:14 <Jan> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2012JanMar/0017.html
20:30:13 <Zakim> +[Microsoft.a]
20:50:05 <AlastairC> AC: Makes sense, I hadn't thought it applied to copy-paste when reading about re-structuring the first time.
20:50:41 <Jan> Resolution: All accept splitting copy-paste from content transformations]
20:50:52 <Jan> regrets: Cherie E.
20:50:58 <Zakim> -[Microsoft]
20:51:01 <Zakim> -[Microsoft.a]
20:51:02 <Zakim> -Alastair
20:51:02 <Zakim> -Jutta
20:51:04 <Zakim> -Greg
20:51:05 <Zakim> -Andrew
20:51:14 <Zakim> -Jeanne
20:51:15 <Jan> regrets:
20:51:31 <Jan> oops I think Cherie was here afterall
20:51:51 <Jan> RRSAgent, make minutes
20:51:51 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/01/30-au-minutes.html Jan
20:51:58 <Jan> RRSAgent, set logs public
20:52:04 <Jan> Zakim, bye
20:52:04 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees were Jan, Jeanne, Jutta, Alastair, Andrew, Greg, [Microsoft], Alex, Tim_Boland
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20:52:10 <Jan> RRSAgent, bye
20:52:10 <RRSAgent> I see no action items