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17:58:59 <Judy> zakim, room for 8?
17:59:01 <Zakim> ok, Judy; conference Team_(text)17:58Z scheduled with code 2119 (A11Y) for 60 minutes until 1858Z
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17:59:43 <Zakim> +Plh
17:59:55 <Zakim> +Judy
18:00:33 <Judy> agenda+ confirm assignees and timelines for text-related change proposals needed
18:00:33 <Judy> agenda+ review updated proposal on meta name generator
18:00:33 <Judy> agenda+ review updated proposal on title
18:00:33 <Judy> agenda+ review proposal on WG location of alt guidance
18:00:33 <Judy> agenda+ confirm next meeting; identify next scribe; adjourn
18:01:07 <Zakim> -Judy
18:01:24 <Zakim> +Judy
18:04:07 <Zakim> +David_MacDonald
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18:05:45 <Zakim> +??P6
18:07:39 <Zakim> -Plh
18:07:57 <Judy> agenda+ additional update on longdesc steps and timeline
18:08:07 <Zakim> +Cooper
18:08:30 <MichaelC> agenda?
18:09:21 <MichaelC> zakim, ??P6 is Janina_Sajka
18:09:21 <Zakim> +Janina_Sajka; got it
18:09:38 <janina> scribe: janina
18:10:02 <MichaelC> drop item 16
18:10:03 <MichaelC> drop item 17
18:10:23 <janina> zakim, take up item 19
18:10:23 <Zakim> agendum 19. "confirm assignees and timelines for text-related change proposals needed" taken up [from Judy]
18:12:37 <janina> jb: Noting that Meta-Generator and Title are old CP's that we need to forward as soon as ready
18:13:40 <janina> janina: Thinks may have Feb 11 deadline as reconsideration requests. We should confirm -- or simply complete
18:14:17 <janina> Meta Generator is
18:14:18 <janina> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposal/meta_name%3Dgenerator_does_not_make_missing_alt_conforming
18:15:46 <Judy> Janina's new draft input: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2012Jan/0239.html
18:15:54 <janina> Title is at:
18:15:55 <janina> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/notitlev2
18:17:03 <Judy> jb: we need to discuss meta generator updated draft input today.
18:17:48 <Judy> jb: we were supposed to review and discuss draft title attribute issue today; didn't; need to before next week's meeting.
18:18:20 <MichaelC> Note this change proposal is not yet linked from http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals
18:20:07 <MichaelC> also missing from http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/Accessibility_Change_Proposal_Status
18:21:31 <janina> michael: Noting that neither the HTML-WG nor the TF Wikis correctly point to Title CP v.2 
18:22:28 <janina> janina: I'll ask Steve to follow up
18:23:28 <janina> judy: Also want to gather additional CPs due in Feb that come out of Bug Triage escalations
18:25:29 <janina> The HTML-A11Y Task Force Wiki is at:
18:25:30 <janina> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/Main_Page
18:26:08 <janina> janina: Look for open issues with numbering beginning in the high 100's
18:27:23 <Judy> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/Accessibility_Change_Proposal_Status
18:32:50 <janina> judy: Looking for text related and assigning a person
18:33:15 <janina> judy: #193 CP to Steve. Steve, OK?
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18:46:35 <Judy> agenda?
18:46:42 <janina> zakim, take up next item
18:46:44 <Zakim> agendum 20. "review updated proposal on meta name generator" taken up [from Judy]
18:47:36 <Judy> re-reading updated http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposal/meta_name%3Dgenerator_does_not_make_missing_alt_conforming
18:48:24 <Judy> re-reading new draft input: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2012Jan/0239.html
18:50:24 <janina> judy: suggests dropping "all" or saying "most"
18:50:29 <janina> janina: rather drop "all"
18:50:39 <janina> judy: say WCAG2
18:51:36 <janina> judy: suggest expanding the corelation statement, followed by no justification 
18:53:18 <janina> janina s/no justification/no justification sentence/
18:53:52 <Judy> agenda?
18:54:28 <Judy> zakim, drop item 21
18:54:28 <Zakim> agendum 21, review updated proposal on title, dropped
18:54:37 <Judy> zakim, drop item 22
18:54:37 <Zakim> agendum 22, review proposal on WG location of alt guidance, dropped
18:54:50 <Judy> zakim, take up item 24
18:54:50 <Zakim> +Plh
18:54:51 <Zakim> agendum 24. "additional update on longdesc steps and timeline" taken up [from Judy]
18:56:19 <janina> judy: Thanks PLH for joining to discuss community concerns recently raised re longdesc reconsideration
18:56:54 <janina> judy: We've heard chairs are working through the various longdesc cp's but no firm date for moving forward
18:57:16 <janina> judy: anything further than can be said re expected steps and timelines?
18:57:41 <janina> plh: Aplogizing for dealy in dealing with this. It is an important issue.
18:58:10 <janina> plh: It is on a critical path, Maciej responded on list
18:58:43 <janina> plh: Chairs do have a tentative date, but they're still working toward an agreement re the existing 3 cps
18:59:02 <janina> plh: Hope is to move forward "extremely fast."
18:59:33 <janina> plh: Apologizing again for the delay, but noting this is a top priority item for us
18:59:55 <plh> s/dealy/delay/
19:01:16 <Judy> js: Philippe I was wondering about Laura's question or assertion that Jonas and Ian might in the meantime be working on another approach? Do you have any thoughts about whether there might be work going on in the background?
19:02:21 <Judy> plh: I don't know about that; that would be new information to me and to the Chairs if so. 
19:02:36 <Judy> js: would be important to know
19:02:40 <plh> s/and to the Chairs/and possibly to the Chairs/
19:03:36 <janina> judy: PLH, would be good to check with Chairs whether they know anything on this as well
19:03:49 <Judy> jb: Janina if you have more info (any links?) on that could you please let us know; and Philippe can you check in with the Chairs on that?
19:04:16 <plh> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/DeprecateLongdesc
19:04:16 <Judy> plh: re-looking at Jonas' proposal...
19:05:05 <janina> judy: Noting end of time for today, suggest full discussion on longdesc and its timeline next Text call next Tuesday
19:06:23 <Judy> jb: would like to have a more thorough review of the status of the longdesc issue next tuesday, re-inviting Philippe, and Maciej or other Chairs
19:06:59 <plh> "It would be fine, however, to use the ARIA aria-describedby attribute to refer to descriptions that are themselves hidden. "
19:07:02 <Judy> jb: thanks for joining, Philippe
19:08:14 <janina> group agrees to strike last plh comment as no time for discussion/correction
19:08:28 <David> I have to drop off.... see you...
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19:08:39 <janina> zakim, bye
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19:08:41 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees were Plh, Judy, David_MacDonald, Cooper, Janina_Sajka
19:08:46 <janina> rrsagent, make minutes
19:08:46 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/01/24-text-minutes.html janina
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