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20:58:32 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 28346
20:58:32 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see RWC_Audio()4:00PM scheduled to start in 2 minutes
20:58:33 <trackbot> Meeting: Audio Working Group Teleconference
20:58:33 <trackbot> Date: 16 January 2012
20:58:37 <olivier> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-audio/2012JanMar/0022.html
20:58:42 <olivier> Regrets: ROC
20:58:57 <chrislowis> Zakim, who is on the call?
20:58:57 <Zakim> RWC_Audio()4:00PM has not yet started, chrislowis
20:58:59 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, chris, chrislowis, olivier, Alistair, marco_, F1LT3R_, kinetik, Ronny, paul___irish, trackbot, quinnirill, foolip
20:59:15 <olivier> Agenda+ Reminder: f2f registration
20:59:15 <olivier> Agenda+  finding people/communities to review the specs
20:59:15 <olivier> Agenda+  progress on UC writing / need help?
20:59:15 <olivier> Agenda+  Review UC1 - video chat
20:59:15 <olivier> Agenda+  f2f agenda
21:00:10 <chrislowis> Zakim, who is on the call?
21:00:10 <Zakim> RWC_Audio()4:00PM has not yet started, chrislowis
21:00:10 <joe> joe has joined #audio
21:00:11 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, chris, chrislowis, olivier, Alistair, marco_, F1LT3R_, kinetik, Ronny, paul___irish, trackbot, quinnirill, foolip
21:02:21 <olivier> zakim, who is here?
21:02:21 <Zakim> RWC_Audio()4:00PM has not yet started, olivier
21:02:22 <Zakim> On IRC I see joe, Zakim, RRSAgent, chris, chrislowis, olivier, Alistair, marco_, F1LT3R_, kinetik, Ronny, paul___irish, trackbot, quinnirill, foolip
21:02:31 <olivier> zakim, this is 28346
21:02:31 <Zakim> ok, olivier; that matches RWC_Audio()4:00PM
21:02:37 <olivier> zakim, who is here?
21:02:37 <Zakim> On the phone I see ??P0, [IPcaller], +1.510.334.aaaa, [IPcaller.a], joe, ??P8
21:02:39 <Zakim> On IRC I see joe, Zakim, RRSAgent, chris, chrislowis, olivier, Alistair, marco_, F1LT3R_, kinetik, Ronny, paul___irish, trackbot, quinnirill, foolip
21:03:19 <kinetik> zakim, IPcaller.a is me
21:03:19 <Zakim> +kinetik; got it
21:03:22 <kinetik> (probably)
21:04:18 <olivier> Chair: Olivier
21:04:23 <olivier> Scribe: Alistair
21:04:32 <olivier> ScribeNick: Alistair
21:04:43 <olivier> zakim, agenda?
21:04:43 <Zakim> I see 5 items remaining on the agenda:
21:04:45 <Zakim> 1. Reminder: f2f registration [from olivier]
21:04:47 <Zakim> 2. finding people/communities to review the specs [from olivier]
21:04:49 <Zakim> 3. progress on UC writing / need help? [from olivier]
21:04:50 <Zakim> 4. Review UC1 - video chat [from olivier]
21:04:52 <Zakim> 5. f2f agenda [from olivier]
21:05:36 <Alistair> zakim, next agendum
21:05:36 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Reminder: f2f registration" taken up [from olivier]
21:05:40 <olivier> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/46884/audiof2fjan2012/
21:06:09 <Alistair> olivier: Reminds people to fill out the form for the face to face, even if they are *not* planning on coming.
21:06:47 <olivier> zakim, take up agendum 3
21:06:47 <Zakim> agendum 3. "progress on UC writing / need help?" taken up [from olivier]
21:07:08 <olivier> http://www.w3.org/2011/audio/wiki/Use_Cases_and_Requirements
21:07:18 <Alistair> Olivier: Last week a number of us took on use case work from out Use-Cases an requirements docs. See above.
21:08:08 <Alistair> Olivier: does any body need help with their UC work at this point?
21:08:29 <chrislowis> Alistair: do we know which ones have been taken up / started yet? 
21:08:46 <chrislowis> joe: I took on UC6 and plan to start before the f2f
21:08:49 <Alistair> Joes: I took on UC6, but I have not posted my draft yet. I will do this for the Face to Face.
21:08:58 <olivier> http://www.w3.org/2011/audio/track/actions/open
21:10:07 <Alistair> Chris Rogers: I will start working at UC3 tonight and work towards something more complete by the face to face meeting.
21:11:10 <Alistair> Olivier: The two UC's that have not been taken yet are: 4 (online radio broadcast) and 8 (UI sounds)
21:11:30 <Alistair> Chris Lowis: I can probably take a look at UC4 if needed.
21:11:49 <Alistair> Chris Rogers: UC4 looks like it could fall under UC1.
21:12:32 <Alistair> Olivier: We are going to keep it separate just to see if there is anything in there that does not fall under UC1.
21:14:41 <Alistair> Olivier: a prospective UC9 has been inquired about. IE: Language learning applications. A speach based application.
21:15:19 <Alistair> Alistair: Is there microphone use in UC9?
21:15:24 <Alistair> Olivier: Yes.
21:15:59 <Alistair> zakim, take up agendum 2
21:15:59 <Zakim> agendum 2. "finding people/communities to review the specs" taken up [from olivier]
21:16:56 <Alistair> Olivier: we have not had much review on the spec that we publish in Dec. This is OK given that these are first public drafts. If you know people that may be looking at this, please encourage them to send their thoughts on the public mailling list.
21:18:41 <Alistair> Joe: I have reached out a developer making games, and he is doing work for a pretty well known game vendor. I am trying to reach out to them.
21:19:04 <Alistair> Olivier: We want to get them involved in reviewing on the mailling list.
21:20:14 <Alistair> Chris Rogers: As far as games in concerned, I had a busy week last week meeting with Zynga and EA. EA are doing some interesting things, I am not sure they have anything ready to show at this stage.
21:21:32 <olivier> Crogers: mentions Tom White's message - http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-audio/2012JanMar/0024.html
21:22:23 <Alistair> Chris Rogers: In my work, I drew upon widely used specs like OpanAL and FMOD and some of this was specced out in earlier IASIG 3D specs.
21:22:47 <olivier> s/Opan/Open/
21:23:36 <Alistair> Olivier: What kind of IP issues might be involved with the framworks you looked at?
21:24:04 <Alistair> Chris Rogers: I do not believe there are any IP problems with the specs I looked at. We should ask Tom White about this.
21:24:13 <Alistair> Olivier: I will talk to Tom White about this.
21:24:44 <olivier> ACTION: Olivier to ask Tom White about potential IP issues regarding OpenAL, FMOD etc
21:24:44 <trackbot> Created ACTION-16 - Ask Tom White about potential IP issues regarding OpenAL, FMOD etc [on Olivier Thereaux - due 2012-01-23].
21:24:55 <olivier> ACTION: Alistair to get feedback from game developer contact
21:24:56 <trackbot> Created ACTION-17 - Get feedback from game developer contact [on Alistair MacDonald - due 2012-01-23].
21:26:44 <chris> http://www.chromeexperiments.com/detail/plink-multiplayer-music-experience/
21:27:15 <chris> IASIG3D link:
21:27:16 <chris> http://www.iasig.org/pubs/3dl2v1a.pdf
21:27:21 <Alistair> Chris Rogers: Another company that might be interested in giving feedback are Dinamoe who created Plink. (See above links)
21:27:32 <Alistair> zakim, next agendum
21:27:32 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Reminder: f2f registration" taken up [from olivier]
21:28:03 <olivier> zakim, drop agendum 4
21:28:03 <Zakim> agendum 4, Review UC1 - video chat, dropped
21:28:08 <olivier> zakim, take up agendum 5
21:28:08 <Zakim> agendum 5. "f2f agenda" taken up [from olivier]
21:28:08 <Alistair> Olivier: I would like to drop this agendum pending the use-cases, we should take this up at the f2f.
21:29:19 <Alistair> Olivier: The f2f adgenda will be based around the use-cases and requirements work, getting these ready for review.
21:30:01 <Alistair> Olivier: We should also look at the specs we have, in relation to the use-cases and recs. 
21:30:43 <Alistair> Olivier: The goal of the f2f would be to get a clear view of what kind of specification we will be building based on the use-cases and requirements. Ideally this will give us a better road map for the next few months.
21:31:04 <Alistair> Olivier: Does anybody have any specific question that you would like us to tackle at the f2f?
21:31:43 <olivier> Joe: asks about the status of the "Temporary Heap"
21:32:08 <Alistair> Joe: Are we going to be talking about the 'temporary heap items' ? I have things in there I would like to examine, and take a pass at during the f2f.
21:32:45 <Alistair> Olivier: Good point. Ideally at the end of the f2f, we should have eliminated the temporary heap.
21:33:04 <Alistair> Olivier: If you have anything you would like to add to the f2f meeting agenda, please reach out on the public mailling list.
21:33:46 <olivier> Topic: any other business?
21:34:06 <Zakim> -kinetik
21:34:07 <Zakim> -??P8
21:34:09 <Zakim> -joe
21:34:11 <Zakim> - +1.510.334.aaaa
21:34:15 <Zakim> -??P0
21:34:46 <olivier> rrsagent, make minutes
21:34:46 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/01/16-audio-minutes.html olivier
21:35:01 <olivier> zakim, bye
21:35:01 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees were [IPcaller], +1.510.334.aaaa, joe, kinetik
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21:35:05 <olivier> adjourned
21:35:09 <olivier> rrsagent, bye
21:35:09 <RRSAgent> I see 2 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2012/01/16-audio-actions.rdf :
21:35:09 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Olivier to ask Tom White about potential IP issues regarding OpenAL, FMOD etc [1]
21:35:09 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/01/16-audio-irc#T21-24-44
21:35:09 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Alistair to get feedback from game developer contact [2]
21:35:09 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/01/16-audio-irc#T21-24-55