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18:06:46 <MichaelC> zakim, this is 2119
18:06:46 <Zakim> ok, MichaelC; that matches Team_(html-a11y)18:00Z
18:06:51 <Zakim> +Cooper
18:07:12 <MichaelC> zakim, ??P3 is Léonie_Watson
18:07:12 <Zakim> +Léonie_Watson; got it
18:10:29 <LeonieW> rrsagent, set logs world-visible 
18:10:51 <LeonieW> Meeting: WAI HTML-A11y Bug Triage additional meeting
18:11:01 <LeonieW> Chair: Léonie Watson
18:11:14 <LeonieW> Present: Léonie Watson, Michael Cooper
18:11:22 <LeonieW> Regrets: Hans Hillen
18:12:49 <LeonieW> Scribe: Léonie Watson
18:12:59 <LeonieW> rrsagent, make minutes
18:12:59 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/01/13-a11y-bugs-minutes.html LeonieW
18:14:19 <MichaelC> scribeNick: LeonieW
18:16:02 <LeonieW> Topic: Tracker issues
18:16:17 <LeonieW> MC: Text alternatives...
18:17:45 <LeonieW> MC: There are 8 raised issues, none applicable to us.
18:19:22 <LeonieW> MC: There are 3 open issues that relate to a11y.
18:24:20 <MichaelC> text-alternatives: Implement the HTML Accessibility Task Force recommendations on alternatives including ways to provide on various elements, and advice for using
18:25:08 <MichaelC> text-alternatives: Implement the HTML Accessibility Task Force recommendations on alternatives including ways to provide on various elements, and advice for using them
18:27:44 <MichaelC> -> http://dev.w3.org/html5/decision-policy/decision-policy-v2.html Decision Policy
18:29:55 <LeonieW> MC: Suggest tieing this to issue 1871. 
18:30:23 <MichaelC> 8171 was already related to HTML-ISSUE-31
18:30:37 <MichaelC> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Apr/0453.html Chair decision on HTML-ISSUE-31
18:31:03 <LeonieW> s/1871/8171/
18:36:45 <LeonieW> LW: Difficult to know how to proceed. Think we should go ahead with the tracker issue. The alternative is to risk these bugs being dropped.
18:37:06 <LeonieW> rrsagent, make minutes
18:37:06 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/01/13-a11y-bugs-minutes.html LeonieW
18:39:28 <LeonieW> MC: ARIA...
18:40:24 <LeonieW> MC: No currently open issues.
18:42:48 <LeonieW> MC: Closed issues include 14, 35, 85, 109, and 129 (ARIA mapping). Think 129 is the likely one. 
18:43:24 <MichaelC> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Mar/0005.html Chair decision on HTML-ISSUE-129
18:51:24 <MichaelC> aria-processing: Define complete processing requirements for ARIA attributes
18:57:53 <LeonieW> Will add 10444, 11891, and 11892.
18:58:26 <LeonieW> s/Will add 10444, 11891, and 11892./MC: Will add 10444, 11891, and 11892./
18:58:44 <LeonieW> Canvas...
18:59:00 <LeonieW> s/Canvas.../MC: Canvas.../
18:59:12 <LeonieW> rrsagent, make minutes
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19:00:21 <LeonieW> MC: Issue 131 exhists
19:02:07 <LeonieW> MC: Think we should leave 131 alone. Rich mentioned that 13176 and 13181 both have tracker-request keyword.
19:02:39 <LeonieW> MC: Rich also mentioned the bug relating to focus ring text baseline.
19:02:59 <MichaelC> -> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/FocusRingTextBaseline Change proposal for focus ring text baseline
19:06:21 <LeonieW> MC: Media...
19:16:38 <MichaelC> -> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=10642%2C+11593%2C+12545%2C+12546%2C+13275%2C+13333%2C+13434%2C+13435%2C+13436%2C+13544%2C+13546%2C+13624%2C+13637%2C+13692 Media bugs marked wontfix
19:22:51 <LeonieW> LW: Replied to John's email to ask for his help in escalating media bugs.
19:22:57 <LeonieW> MC: Keyboard access...
19:25:24 <LeonieW> 11140. No need to escalate.
19:25:56 <LeonieW> s/11140. No need to escalate./MC: 11140. No need to escalate./
19:26:49 <LeonieW> MC: 10994: Not one to be escalated on account of a11y
19:33:42 <LeonieW> LW: I don't think we have the resources to champion these bugs through to the next milestone.
19:34:27 <LeonieW> MC: Ok, we have tracker requests for text alternatives, ARIA and canvas. We've asked John to follow up on media, and the decision is not to pursue those relating to keyboard access.
19:35:05 <LeonieW> Topic: Needs info bugs
19:35:23 <LeonieW> MC: With the meta tracker issues we've requested, some of these will fall under those. Not all though.
19:36:21 <LeonieW> MC: It may be that there isn't enough available at this time to pursue the rest that need info.
19:37:31 <LeonieW> MC: We'll need to go through other bugs and link them to the meta tracker issues soon.
19:37:48 <LeonieW> MC: Fixed bugs probably don't need escalating. We can review those separately.
19:38:13 <LeonieW> MC: We should raise to the TF that we were often in the position of needing to make judgement calls on bugs.
19:38:48 <LeonieW> LW: Agreed. We don't always have the historical knowledge or domain expertise to do that.
19:40:35 <Zakim> -Cooper
19:40:36 <Zakim> Team_(html-a11y)18:00Z has ended
19:40:38 <Zakim> Attendees were Cooper, Léonie_Watson
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