14:55:48 RRSAgent has joined #rdfa 14:55:48 logging to http://www.w3.org/2012/01/12-rdfa-irc 14:55:50 RRSAgent, make logs world 14:55:50 Zakim has joined #rdfa 14:55:52 Zakim, this will be 7332 14:55:52 ok, trackbot; I see SW_RDFa()10:00AM scheduled to start in 5 minutes 14:55:53 Meeting: RDF Web Applications Working Group Teleconference 14:55:53 Date: 12 January 2012 14:56:20 SW_RDFa()10:00AM has now started 14:56:27 +??P3 14:56:33 zakim, I am ??P3 14:56:34 +manu1; got it 15:00:34 niklasl has joined #rdfa 15:01:04 +??P39 15:01:11 zakim, I am ??P39 15:01:11 +niklasl; got it 15:01:30 +??P37 15:01:35 zakim, I am ??P37 15:01:35 +gkellogg; got it 15:01:49 +??P42 15:01:59 +scor 15:02:15 +OpenLink_Software 15:02:22 Zakim, OpenLink_Software is temporarily me 15:02:23 +MacTed; got it 15:02:23 Zakim, mute me 15:02:26 MacTed should now be muted 15:02:29 scor has joined #rdfa 15:03:06 +Steven 15:03:31 Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdfa-wg/2012Jan/0001.html 15:04:06 Scribe: STeven 15:04:11 Scribe: Steven 15:04:54 Topic: Planning 15:05:09 Manu: Are we ready for LC, are we OK with the timeline? 15:05:20 ... the first reviews are already coming in 15:05:29 Topic: Any Remaining Issues? 15:05:36 ... so are there any remaining issues? 15:05:59 Manu: Gavin Carruthers of RDF WF is raising issues 15:06:17 ... they feel that we are too inclusive 15:06:39 ... he's comment is about http: as CURIE 15:06:50 ... we need to tighten up the CURIE syntax 15:06:59 ... they propose the same as SPARQL 15:07:05 s/Carruthers/Carothers 15:07:13 q+ 15:07:18 ... so that people couldn't do http:// be detected as a CURIE 15:07:20 q+ to ask about http 15:07:33 ack gkellogg 15:07:45 q+ 15:07:52 Gregg: One issue is the ability to have a CURIE with path information in it 15:08:19 Manu: They allow slash in theirs 15:08:53 ack shaneM 15:08:53 ShaneM, you wanted to ask about http 15:08:59 ... if it doesn't then we'd be in trouble 15:09:24 Shane: Why do they think http: can be detected as a CURIE? 15:09:33 Manu: if you declare http as a prefix 15:09:54 ... they think that it shouldn't be allowed, and be the same as in SPARQL; I'd be OK with it as is 15:10:15 ack niklasl 15:10:35 Niklas: I too am wary about http: as prefix 15:10:49 ... I'd be interested to see how it is done 15:11:22 Manu: Two issues 1) backwards incompatible 15:11:39 ... if no one is using it, then there's no problem surely 15:11:45 ... angels on the head of a pin 15:11:47 note that almost all of RDF is 'angels on the head of a pin' 15:12:03 ... 2) we wouldn't be using PNAME from SPARQL anyway 15:12:24 ... so we would still have a different range of characters 15:12:41 Steven: Anyway, SPARQL did it after we did 15:12:47 Manu: heh. True. 15:13:04 Manu: The rest seems to be editorial 15:13:37 Steven: I thought we referenced IRI anyway, it's just called URI, right? 15:13:43 Shane: I don't think we can change URI to IRI 15:13:48 q+ 15:13:51 Shane: The cases where we say URI, we mean URI - like in @href and @src 15:14:02 q+ to talk about @href being a URL, not a URI 15:15:04 SHane: I agree that it is an editorial change 15:15:12 s/SH/Sh/ 15:15:16 ack niklasl 15:15:34 Niklas: I agree that @href and @src are OK 15:15:55 ... but there are someplaces where we need to check the details, we use IRI where we mean that 15:16:37 Shane: In M12N URI points to ANYURI 15:16:51 ack gkellogg 15:16:51 gkellogg, you wanted to talk about @href being a URL, not a URI 15:16:59 Steven: Which is the same value space, but a different lexical space IIRC 15:17:09 Gregg: HTML spec uses URL 15:17:19 ... but there are open issues on that 15:17:36 ... I'd be wary of depending on the range of attributes that we are importing 15:17:49 q+ 15:17:58 ack manu1 15:18:00 ... point out that it is dependent on host language 15:18:17 Manu: Can we reword Shane along these lines? 15:18:34 ... use IRI with a caveat 15:18:50 Shane: probably 15:19:16 Manu: But this would change our datatypes 15:19:23 Shane: No I think it would be OK 15:19:56 Manu: Any other issues? 15:20:00 [silence] 15:20:13 Manu: OK, discuss remaining issues next week, and then go to LC 15:20:16 Topic: Review of RDFa Lite 1.1 and HTML+RDFa 1.1 Updates 15:20:26 http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/sources/rdfa-lite/ 15:20:31 Manu: I updated these over the vacation 15:20:33 http://dev.w3.org/html5/rdfa/ 15:21:06 q+ I don't see anything about the value space of