17:46:40 RRSAgent has joined #webperf 17:46:40 logging to http://www.w3.org/2012/01/11-webperf-irc 17:46:42 RRSAgent, make logs world 17:46:42 Zakim has joined #webperf 17:46:44 Zakim, this will be WPWG 17:46:45 Meeting: Web Performance Working Group Teleconference 17:46:45 Date: 11 January 2012 17:46:45 I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, trackbot 18:02:27 tonyg has joined #webperf 18:03:13 plh has joined #webperf 18:03:23 zakim, this is per 18:03:23 ok, plh; that matches RWC_web-per()1:00PM 18:03:27 +Plh 18:03:27 present+ TonyG 18:03:32 present+ Arvind 18:03:35 present+ JatinderMann 18:03:42 present+ KarenAnderson 18:03:47 present+ plh 18:08:07 Topics: Spec and Test Updates from last week 18:08:42 +chris 18:09:00 simonjam has joined #webperf 18:10:50 Jatinder: Karen and I have updated the Page Visibility, and Timing specs to complete Action items 59, 61, 64 and 74. 18:11:00 Jatinder: Please review those changes. 18:11:21 Jatinder: Karen has pushed out two test cases in Action 21 and 75. 18:12:42 Close ACTION 19 18:12:54 http://www.w3.org/2010/webperf/track/actions/18 18:12:55 close action-19 18:12:56 ACTION-19 Investigate tests around persistent connections closed 18:13:20 http://www.w3.org/2010/webperf/track/actions/19 18:14:01 Arvind: Let's go through Navigation Timing open items and see what remains. 18:16:43 close action-19 18:16:43 ACTION-19 Investigate tests around persistent connections closed 18:16:52 Tony: I'm inclined to say that persistent connections isn't a part of HTML5 spec and probably can't be tested. Let's close 18:16:57 close action-18 18:16:57 ACTION-18 Follow up on test coverage and propose new test cases. closed 18:17:19 http://www.w3.org/2010/webperf/track/actions/57 18:19:50 http://www.w3.org/2010/webperf/track/actions/75 18:21:58 http://w3c-test.org/webperf/tests/approved/navigation-timing/html5/test_timing_attributes_order.html 18:26:21 Tony: Future test cases should always go to submission folder for review prior to moving to approval folder. 18:27:27 Jatinder: Let's keep action-75 open so that we can fix the typo thats causing the test to fail. 18:28:26 http://w3c-test.org/webperf/tests/approved/navigation-timing/html5/test_navigation_type_reload.html 18:33:18 Jatinder: Karen to update test_navigation_type_reload.html and test_timing_attributes_order.html to fix the resource issue and Tony will review. 18:33:20 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-web-perf/2012Jan/0008.html 18:34:48 Jatinder: What are the WG's thoughts on client authentication modal dialogs? Users could impact aggregate timing by sitting on a modal dialogs. 18:41:02 Tony: There are other slow javascript dialogs, alerts that could also impact the overall timing. 18:41:44 Jatinder: I don't think we would want to throw away the client authentication time, as the overall performance timeline shouldn't be impacted. Our options might be to include a new phase. 18:42:09 ...we expect the client authentication dialogs to occur between connectStart and responseEnd. 18:44:00 Arvind: HTTP Client authentication might have smaller usage as time goes on. 18:44:26 ...We should be able to get data to see how many webpages in the world use this feature. 18:45:32 Tony: We need a spec update here regardless. Either we add the new phases or how our current phases work around this. 18:46:07 Arvind: Well, the problem still exists for proxy servers. There may be many more such small edge cases like this. 18:47:33 Arvind: Either we create a new parallel time for authentication. I don't think we should broaden the scope of redirects. 18:52:26 Jatinder: Arvind will follow up with data on how common these issues are and see if we even want to make any change here. 18:52:38 Arvind: I think we should target getting this spec to PR. 18:53:19 Jatinder: Let's plan to update all test cases for next week and target entering PR then. 18:53:26 Tony: I agree with that plan. 18:55:30 - +1.650.253.aabb 18:55:31 -[Microsoft] 18:55:32 -chris 18:55:49 - +1.404.978.aaaa 18:55:52 -Plh 18:55:53 RWC_web-per()1:00PM has ended 18:55:54 Attendees were +1.404.978.aaaa, [Microsoft], +1.650.253.aabb, Plh, chris 19:00:36 zakim, generate minutes 19:00:36 I don't understand 'generate minutes', JatinderMann 19:00:43 rrsagent, generate minutes 19:00:43 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/01/11-webperf-minutes.html JatinderMann 20:46:37 plh has left #webperf 22:31:33 Zakim has left #webperf