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14:55:23 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world
14:55:25 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be WEBID
14:55:25 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see Team_(webid)15:00Z scheduled to start in 5 minutes
14:55:26 <trackbot> Meeting: WebID Incubator Group Teleconference
14:55:26 <trackbot> Date: 10 January 2012
14:55:33 <bblfish> RRSAgent, draft minutes
14:55:33 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/01/10-webid-minutes.html bblfish
14:55:42 <bblfish> RRSAgent, make logs public
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14:58:20 <Zakim> Team_(webid)15:00Z has now started
14:58:27 <Zakim> +??P1
14:58:49 <Zakim> +OpenLink_Software
14:58:59 <domel> Zakim, I am domel
14:58:59 <Zakim> sorry, domel, I do not see a party named 'domel'
14:59:01 <MacTed> Zakim, OpenLink_Software is temporarily me
14:59:02 <Zakim> +MacTed; got it
14:59:02 <MacTed> Zakim, mute me
14:59:03 <Zakim> MacTed should now be muted
14:59:20 <domel> Zakim, I am ??P1
14:59:20 <Zakim> +domel; got it
14:59:42 <Zakim> +??P6
14:59:52 <MacTed> Zakim, unmute me
14:59:52 <Zakim> MacTed should no longer be muted
15:00:04 <bergi_> bergi_ has joined #webid
15:00:09 <MacTed> Zakim, mute me
15:00:09 <Zakim> MacTed should now be muted
15:00:29 <Zakim> -domel
15:00:34 <bblfish> mho it tells me the password is not vald
15:01:20 <MacTed> that'd be the overbooked...
15:01:29 <MacTed> Zakim, code?
15:01:29 <Zakim> the conference code is 26632 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), MacTed
15:02:35 <bblfish> domel did you get in?
15:02:48 <mike> mike has joined #webid
15:03:05 <Zakim> +scor
15:03:12 <scor> scor has joined #webid
15:03:40 <domel> domel has joined #webid
15:03:41 <MacTed> bblfish - how are you trying to get in? 
15:03:54 <Zakim> + +1.510.931.aaaa
15:04:07 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
15:04:11 <bblfish> zakim, I am aaaa
15:04:11 <Zakim> +bblfish; got it
15:04:21 <scor> Zakim, who is on the phone?
15:04:21 <Zakim> On the phone I see MacTed (muted), ??P6, scor, bblfish, [IPcaller]
15:04:28 <domel> Zakim, I am IPcaller
15:04:28 <Zakim> ok, domel, I now associate you with [IPcaller]
15:04:41 <domel> Zakim, who is on the phone?
15:04:41 <Zakim> On the phone I see MacTed (muted), ??P6, scor, bblfish, [IPcaller]
15:05:37 <Zakim> + +49.874.aabb
15:05:48 <Zakim> +??P12
15:06:01 <bergi_> Zakim, I am +49.874.aabb
15:06:01 <Zakim> +bergi_; got it
15:06:03 <Zakim> -[IPcaller]
15:06:07 <bblfish> suggestion to improve e-mail traffic quality: Never reply to an e-mail without waiting for 1 hour
15:06:55 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
15:07:13 <bblfish> editors https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/WebID/raw-file/tip/spec/index-respec.html
15:07:32 <bblfish> koalie can you join us?
15:07:36 <jeffsayre> jeffsayre has joined #webid
15:07:45 <koalie> yes
15:07:49 <bblfish> great
15:07:49 <domel> Zakim, IPcaller is really me
15:07:49 <Zakim> +domel; got it
15:07:51 <Zakim> +??P21
15:08:05 <domel> Zakim, who is on the phone?
15:08:05 <Zakim> On the phone I see MacTed (muted), ??P6, scor, bblfish, bergi_, ??P12, domel, ??P21
15:08:25 <Zakim> +??P22
15:08:34 <koalie> Zakim, ??P22 is me
15:08:34 <Zakim> +koalie; got it
15:08:48 <koalie> Zakim, who's noisy?
15:08:49 <domel> Zakim, who makes noise?
15:08:49 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, domel.
15:08:59 <Zakim> koalie, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: bblfish (4%), ??P21 (47%)
15:09:16 <koalie> ack me
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15:12:23 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
15:12:37 <melvster1> zakim, +[IPcaller] is me
15:12:37 <Zakim> sorry, melvster1, I do not recognize a party named '+[IPcaller]'
15:12:48 <melvster1> zakim, [IPcaller] is me
15:12:48 <Zakim> +melvster1; got it
15:12:52 <Zakim> + +1.650.450.aacc
15:12:59 <domel> Zakim, who is on the phone?
15:12:59 <Zakim> On the phone I see MacTed (muted), ??P6, scor, bblfish, bergi_, ??P12, domel, ??P21, koalie, melvster1, +1.650.450.aacc
15:13:52 <jeffsayre> zakim, 650.450.aacc is me
15:13:52 <Zakim> sorry, jeffsayre, I do not recognize a party named '650.450.aacc'
15:14:10 <jeffsayre> Zakim, 1.650.450.aacc is me
15:14:10 <Zakim> sorry, jeffsayre, I do not recognize a party named '1.650.450.aacc'
15:14:25 <jeffsayre> Zakim, aacc is me
15:14:25 <Zakim> +jeffsayre; got it
15:15:26 <koalie> http://www.w3.org/community/about/faq/#
15:15:54 <melvster1> afaik w3c doenst have 'standards' it has 'recommendations'
15:15:55 <koalie> "How do Community Groups make it easier to move to the standards track?"
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15:19:01 <Zakim> +??P0
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15:20:43 <Zakim> -koalie
15:20:48 <wseltzer> hi, I just joined the call but seem to be in listen-only mode
15:21:06 <koalie> koalie has left #webid
15:24:53 <scor> Zakim, who is on the phone?
15:24:53 <Zakim> On the phone I see MacTed (muted), ??P6, scor, bblfish, bergi_, ??P12, domel, ??P21, melvster1, jeffsayre, ??P0
15:24:58 <MacTed> Zakim, who's here?
15:24:58 <Zakim> On the phone I see MacTed (muted), ??P6, scor, bblfish, bergi_, ??P12, domel, ??P21, melvster1, jeffsayre, ??P0
15:25:01 <Zakim> On IRC I see wseltzer, jeffsayre, domel, scor, bergi_, magnetik, RRSAgent, elf-pavlik, mischat, Zakim, MacTed, melvster1, bblfish, trackbot, bergi
15:25:16 <scor> 11 people
15:25:23 <MacTed> Zakim, unmute
15:25:23 <Zakim> I don't understand 'unmute', MacTed
15:25:28 <MacTed> Zakim, unmute me
15:25:28 <Zakim> MacTed should no longer be muted
15:27:26 <Zakim> +??P11
15:28:25 <magnetik> Zakim, +??P11 is me
15:28:26 <Zakim> sorry, magnetik, I do not recognize a party named '+??P11'
15:35:18 <magnetik> The OpenID security section: http://openid.net/specs/openid-authentication-2_0.html#security_considerations
15:36:05 <MacTed> I'm having great difficulty resolving current speaker's words...  lots of breakup...  is this just for me?
15:36:34 <Zakim> -??P12
15:36:58 <Zakim> +??P12
15:38:34 <bblfish> Zakim, who is making noise?
15:38:45 <Zakim> bblfish, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: MacTed (41%), ??P11 (78%), ??P12 (100%), bblfish (3%)
15:39:03 <bblfish> zakim mute ??P11
15:39:10 <bblfish> zakim, mute ??P11
15:39:10 <Zakim> ??P11 should now be muted
15:44:04 <bblfish> TR/
15:45:53 <melvster1> this was old conversation : http://web.archiveorange.com/archive/v/Xiq8eMu6zFWxn0rYZANt
15:46:02 <melvster1> browserid is email like identifiers
15:46:09 <melvster1> ONLY email like
15:46:29 <melvster1> they have a shim
15:47:08 <melvster1> http://www.w3.org/2011/11/webcryptography-charter.html
15:47:11 <domel> domel has left #webid
15:47:53 <melvster1> browserid also has its own list
15:47:54 <domel> domel has joined #webid
15:48:14 <domel> Zakim, who is on the phone?
15:48:14 <Zakim> On the phone I see MacTed, ??P6, scor, bblfish, bergi_, domel, ??P21, melvster1, jeffsayre, ??P0, ??P11 (muted), ??P12
15:48:37 <mike> mike has joined #webid
15:48:41 <domel> What I know BrowserID is not in the W3C standardization process.
15:48:46 <melvster1> browser id is email like identifiers ONLY, webid is mainly x.509 and http 
15:49:02 <bblfish> https://foafssl.org/srv/idp?authreqissuer=http://bblfish.net/
15:50:00 <melvster1> there's a shim for all non firefox browsers
15:50:53 <melvster1> <script src="https://browserid.org/include.js" type="text/javascript"></script>
15:51:02 <melvster1> that works in the non firefox browsers
15:53:45 <Zakim> +TimBL
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15:54:29 <bblfish>  https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/WebID/raw-file/tip/spec/index-respec.html
15:54:46 <bblfish> \/TR
15:55:09 <wseltzer> I'm on the call but muted
15:55:27 <wseltzer> thanks :)
15:56:07 <Zakim> + +1.617.768.aadd
16:01:02 <bblfish> charter this WG to work with existing browsers
16:01:33 <bblfish> then something for interop
16:01:53 <bblfish> chrter profiles
16:02:58 <bblfish> bye
16:03:29 <Zakim> -TimBL
16:04:12 <melvster1> +1
16:04:15 <bblfish> +1
16:04:15 <domel> +1
16:04:53 <Zakim> -??P12
16:05:41 <magnetik> I think an important point is that we need a better test suite to tell what spec are good or not
16:09:27 <scor> Zakim, aadd is me
16:09:28 <Zakim> +scor; got it
16:09:35 <Zakim> -scor
16:12:58 <melvster1> MacTed
16:14:42 <bblfish> +bbflsih
16:16:34 <wseltzer> add in the network effects, and you'll be all set :)
16:16:50 <melvster1> lorea.cc already does a facebook clone with webid
16:17:12 <melvster1> maybe not the latest spec tho ...
16:17:23 <wseltzer> Tor Project
16:17:26 <bergi_> i have to leave
16:17:27 <bergi_> bye
16:17:36 <Zakim> -bergi_
16:17:43 <bergi_> bergi_ has left #webid
16:17:50 <magnetik> Don't know if google is or will be interrested in WebID, but Chrome is the only browser with really bad javascript crypto support
16:17:58 <wseltzer> thanks, I'll look forward to interacting once I've gotten my feet planted better at w3c
16:18:43 <melvster1> wseltzer: welcome, great to have you on board :)
16:19:57 <wseltzer> Tor aims to help people protect themselves against traffic analysis. People might choose to identify themselves to an endpoint without sharing all that with intermediaries.
16:21:19 <wseltzer> thanks melvster1 
16:21:25 <wseltzer> I'm going to have to leave in a moment, but to be continued.
16:21:34 <bblfish> thanks wseltzer
16:26:01 <wseltzer> thanks bblfish
16:26:06 <Zakim> -??P0
16:26:11 <melvster1> thanks henry
16:26:17 <bblfish> thanks well' have scribing next time
16:26:18 <melvster1> thanks all
16:26:18 <bblfish> bye
16:26:19 <Zakim> -MacTed
16:26:20 <jeffsayre> Bye.
16:26:24 <Zakim> -scor.a
16:26:25 <Zakim> -bblfish
16:26:27 <Zakim> -domel
16:26:34 <Zakim> -melvster1
16:26:44 <Zakim> -jeffsayre
16:27:20 <Zakim> -??P11
16:30:52 <bblfish> trackbot, end meeting
16:30:52 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
16:30:52 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been MacTed, domel, scor, +1.510.931.aaaa, bblfish, +49.874.aabb, bergi_, koalie, melvster1, +1.650.450.aacc, jeffsayre, TimBL, +1.617.768.aadd
16:30:55 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
16:30:55 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/01/10-webid-minutes.html trackbot
16:30:56 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
16:30:56 <RRSAgent> I see no action items