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15:56:30 <kaz> zakim, this will be webtv
15:56:30 <Zakim> ok, kaz; I see UW_WebTVIG()11:00AM scheduled to start in 4 minutes
15:56:48 <kaz> hi Clarke!
15:56:52 <kaz> happy new year!
15:57:13 <Zakim> UW_WebTVIG()11:00AM has now started
15:57:20 <Zakim> +??P59
15:57:28 <Clarke> Happy New Year to you
15:57:38 <Clarke> zakim, ??P59 is me
15:57:44 <Zakim> +Clarke; got it
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15:59:50 <kaz> zakim, who is here?
15:59:50 <Zakim> On the phone I see Clarke
15:59:51 <Zakim> On IRC I see duncanr, Clarke, RRSAgent, Zakim, kaz, trackbot
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16:01:14 <Zakim> + +1.858.942.aaaa
16:01:32 <kaz> zakim, call kazuyuki-617
16:01:40 <Zakim> ok, kaz; the call is being made
16:01:42 <Zakim> +Kazuyuki
16:01:50 <kaz> zakim, who is here?
16:02:00 <Zakim> On the phone I see Clarke, +1.858.942.aaaa, Kazuyuki
16:02:08 <Zakim> +??P3
16:02:10 <kaz> zakim, aaaa is Graham
16:02:18 <Zakim> On IRC I see eric, graham, duncanr, Clarke, RRSAgent, Zakim, kaz, trackbot
16:02:30 <kaz> zakim, ??P3 is Eric
16:02:30 <Zakim> +Graham; got it
16:02:41 <kaz> zakim, who is here?
16:02:46 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
16:02:54 <Zakim> +Eric; got it
16:03:10 <Zakim> On the phone I see Clarke, Graham, Kazuyuki, Eric, [Microsoft]
16:03:19 <kaz> zakim, Microsoft is John
16:03:25 <Zakim> On IRC I see eric, graham, duncanr, Clarke, RRSAgent, Zakim, kaz, trackbot
16:03:34 <Zakim> +John; got it
16:03:46 <Zakim> + +44.303.040.aabb
16:03:56 <kaz> zakim, aabb is Duncan
16:03:56 <Zakim> +Duncan; got it
16:04:55 <Clarke> agenda: http://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/MPTF/Agenda_Telco_5th_January_2012
16:04:57 <Zakim> +??P31
16:05:11 <Zakim> + +1.360.367.aacc
16:05:13 <Zakim> +bryan
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16:05:26 <kaz> zakim, aacc is ??P31 is MarkW
16:05:39 <Zakim> I don't understand 'aacc is ??P31 is MarkW', kaz
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16:06:21 <kaz> zakim, ??P31 is Jason
16:06:25 <Zakim> +Jason; got it
16:06:33 <kaz> zakim, aacc is MarkW
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16:06:36 <Zakim> +Canon
16:06:41 <Zakim> +MarkW; got it
16:06:52 <bryan> oresent+ Bryan_Sullivan
16:07:00 <bryan> present+ Bryan_Sullivan
16:07:00 <kaz> zakim, Canon is Franck?
16:07:01 <Zakim> +Franck?; got it
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16:07:19 <dcorvoysier> Zakim won't let me in, saying passcode is invalid ...
16:07:20 <kaz> agenda: http://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/MPTF/Agenda_Telco_5th_January_2012
16:07:50 <kaz> clarke: thanks for your discussion and great effort
16:08:03 <kaz> ... my first question is
16:08:09 <kaz> ... based on what we submitted
16:08:20 <kaz> ... how to follow-up?
16:08:37 <kaz> ... not sure about the traditional ways
16:08:49 <Zakim> +Cecile_Marc
16:09:03 <kaz> ... but reasonable to keep the current TF?
16:09:08 <kaz> ... or something else?
16:09:34 <kaz> zakim, Cecile_Marc is David
16:09:34 <Zakim> +David; got it
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16:10:36 <kaz> kaz: several possible options
16:11:02 <Zakim> + +1.503.705.aadd
16:11:11 <kaz> ... (1) extend MPTF or (2) create new TF for HTML comments, profile, etc.
16:11:39 <kaz> clarke: we need to determine which issues to handle
16:12:02 <narm> narm has joined #webtv
16:12:09 <kaz> ... consensus on defining option 3 on adaptive bit rate
16:12:28 <kaz> ... should we do that within this MPTF or need a new TF?
16:12:42 <kaz> ... also content protection
16:12:45 <kaz> ... and profiling
16:12:58 <kaz> ... how to deal with those three topics?
16:13:12 <kaz> zakim, aadd is narm
16:13:12 <Zakim> +narm; got it
16:13:25 <kaz> ... any opinion?
16:13:44 <kaz> markW: there is already an approach of Webkit patch
16:13:55 <kaz> zakim, who is speaking?
16:14:06 <Zakim> kaz, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Clarke (2%)
16:14:24 <kaz> clarke: you propose a TF?
16:14:37 <kaz> markW: that's just a source code repository
16:14:50 <kaz> clarke: various options to handle that...
16:15:09 <kaz> markW: would suggest we should consider inplementation
16:15:39 <dcorvoysier> Actually it's a bit more than just code
16:15:44 <kaz> john: before anything is provided, prototyping is needed
16:15:44 <dcorvoysier> http://html5-mediasource-api.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/draft-spec/mediasource-draft-spec.html
16:15:57 <kaz> clarke: prototyping
16:15:57 <Zakim> +Dave_Mays
16:16:12 <kaz> jason: happy to work for prototyping
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16:16:37 <kaz> clarke: sounds like good way to proceed
16:16:48 <kaz> ... MPTF goes for prototyping
16:16:50 <kaz> q+
16:17:02 <kaz> ... good approach for option 3
16:17:08 <kaz> ... what about content protection?
16:18:10 <kaz> jason: what does "creating a TF" mean?
16:18:23 <kaz> clarke: need a new charter, different call slot, etc.
16:18:57 <kaz> ... want to avoid unnecessarily procedure
16:19:09 <kaz> jason: agree
16:19:12 <kaz> bryan: agree
16:19:41 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
16:19:41 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/01/05-webtv-minutes.html kaz
16:19:59 <kaz> clarke: so we'd suggest we'll extend MPTF
16:20:12 <kaz> ... and discuss prototyping, content protection, etc.
16:20:23 <kaz> ... that would be most sufficient
16:20:56 <kaz> ... in that case, what should we do?
16:21:09 <kaz> ... maybe we need to create a new charter
16:21:44 <kaz> kaz: ok
16:22:06 <kaz> ... in that case, we should copy the current charter and create an updated one
16:22:12 <kaz> ... mentioning the new topics
16:22:16 <kaz> clarke: ok
16:22:42 <kaz> dave_mays: btw, any feedback from HTML-WG?
16:22:59 <kaz> clarke: just a usual one saying it's now on the queue
16:23:41 <kaz> ... regarding the next week
16:23:50 <kaz> ... we'll have the CE Show
16:24:10 <kaz> ... who would not be available?
16:24:22 <kaz> dave: not available
16:24:55 <kaz> clarke: we can host the call from Las Vegas next week
16:25:15 <kaz> ... any link on prototyping?
16:25:31 <kaz> david: API is on Webkit bug
16:25:40 <kaz> (looking for the actual link)
16:26:01 <dcorvoysier> This is the original post on the whatwg mailing-list http://lists.whatwg.org/htdig.cgi/whatwg-whatwg.org/2011-July/032384.html
16:26:02 <mark> https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=64731
16:26:09 <Zakim> -Eric
16:26:11 <Zakim> -bryan
16:26:13 <Zakim> -Dave_Mays
16:26:13 <Zakim> -John
16:26:14 <Zakim> -Graham
16:26:15 <Zakim> -Jason
16:26:15 <Zakim> -MarkW
16:26:17 <Zakim> -Clarke
16:26:17 <Zakim> -David
16:26:18 <Zakim> -Duncan
16:26:19 <Zakim> -Franck?
16:26:22 <Zakim> -Kazuyuki
16:26:23 <Clarke> Thanks, Kaz
16:26:24 <Zakim> -narm
16:26:25 <Zakim> UW_WebTVIG()11:00AM has ended
16:26:28 <Zakim> Attendees were Clarke, +1.858.942.aaaa, Kazuyuki, Graham, Eric, John, +44.303.040.aabb, Duncan, +1.360.367.aacc, bryan, Jason, MarkW, Franck?, David, +1.503.705.aadd, narm,
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16:26:31 <Zakim> ... Dave_Mays
16:26:37 <jasonlewis> thank for the links.
16:26:48 <jasonlewis> happy new year folks
16:26:53 <kaz> rrsagent, stop
16:29:50 <kaz> Present: Clarke, Graham, Kazuyuki, Eric, John, Duncan, Jason, MarkW, Bryan, Franck, David, Narm, Dave_Mays
16:29:53 <kaz> Chair: Clarke
16:29:58 <kaz> Scribe: Kaz
16:30:07 <kaz> Meeting: MPTF call
16:30:17 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
16:30:25 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
16:30:25 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/01/05-webtv-minutes.html kaz