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14:35:13 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world
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14:35:15 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be DAP
14:35:15 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see UW_DAP()10:00AM scheduled to start in 25 minutes
14:35:16 <trackbot> Meeting: Device APIs Working Group Teleconference
14:35:16 <trackbot> Date: 04 January 2012
14:35:33 <fjh> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2012Jan/0004.html
14:36:08 <fjh> Chair: Robin_Berjon, Frederick_Hirsch
14:36:11 <fjh> Present+ Robin_Berjon, Frederick_Hirsch
14:36:24 <fjh> Regrets+ Anssi_Kostiainen
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14:58:20 <Clarke> Present+ Clarke_Stevens
14:58:24 <Zakim> UW_DAP()10:00AM has now started
14:58:31 <Zakim> +SHayman
14:58:39 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
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14:58:49 <fjh> zakim, [IPcaller] is me
14:58:49 <Zakim> +fjh; got it
14:58:55 <fjh> zakim, who is here?
14:58:55 <Zakim> On the phone I see SHayman, fjh
14:58:56 <Zakim> On IRC I see dsr, Clarke, Zakim, RRSAgent, fjh, richt, darobin, ingmar, ilkka, trackbot, dom, Josh_Soref, slightlyoff, rektide, mounir
14:59:19 <Zakim> +??P14
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14:59:30 <Clarke> zakim, ??P14 is me
14:59:30 <Zakim> +Clarke; got it
14:59:32 <Zakim> + +1.289.261.aaaa
14:59:47 <Wonsuk> Present+ Wonsuk_Lee
14:59:50 <Zakim> -Josh_Soref.a
14:59:56 <Zakim> +Dsr
15:00:10 <fjh> zakim, who is here?
15:00:10 <Zakim> On the phone I see Josh_Soref, fjh, Clarke, Dsr
15:00:11 <Zakim> On IRC I see Wonsuk, dsr, Clarke, Zakim, RRSAgent, fjh, richt, darobin, ingmar, ilkka, trackbot, dom, Josh_Soref, slightlyoff, rektide, mounir
15:01:07 <Josh_Soref> Scribe: Josh_Soref 
15:01:21 <Josh_Soref> RRSAgent, draft minutes
15:01:21 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/01/04-dap-minutes.html Josh_Soref
15:01:35 <Josh_Soref> Zakim, mute me
15:01:35 <Zakim> Josh_Soref should now be muted
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15:01:57 <fjh> zakim, who is making noise?
15:02:08 <Zakim> fjh, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: fjh (24%), Dsr (4%)
15:02:25 <Josh_Soref> Zakim, who is making noise?
15:02:36 <Zakim> Josh_Soref, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: fjh (17%)
15:02:41 <fjh> zakim, mute me
15:02:41 <Zakim> fjh should now be muted
15:02:48 <fjh> zakim, who is making noise?>
15:02:48 <Zakim> I don't understand 'who is making noise?>', fjh
15:02:53 <fjh> zakim, who is making noise?
15:03:04 <Zakim> fjh, listening for 10 seconds I could not identify any sounds
15:03:05 <Zakim> +wonsuk
15:03:11 <fjh> zakim, unmute me
15:03:31 <Zakim> fjh should no longer be muted
15:03:33 <Zakim> + +1.781.266.aabb
15:03:40 <Cathy> zakim, aabb is me
15:03:40 <Zakim> +Cathy; got it
15:03:54 <Josh_Soref> Zakim, unmute me
15:03:54 <Zakim> Josh_Soref should no longer be muted
15:04:11 <dsr> Present+ dsr
15:04:31 <Zakim> + +1.314.314.aacc
15:04:39 <Zakim> + +44.208.144.aadd
15:04:39 <darobin> Zakim, aacc is me
15:04:39 <Zakim> +darobin; got it
15:04:55 <richt> zakim, aadd is me
15:04:55 <Zakim> +richt; got it
15:05:00 <richt> Present+ Rich_Tibbett
15:07:32 <Josh_Soref> Topic: Administrative
15:07:36 <Josh_Soref> fjh: happy new year
15:07:37 <fjh> new RFC 6474 Title:  vCard Format Extensions: Place of   Birth, Place and Date of Death, http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6474.txt
15:07:52 <Josh_Soref> Topic: Minutes Approval
15:07:59 <fjh> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2012Jan/att-0000/minutes-2011-12-14-v2.html
15:08:11 <fjh> proposed RESOLUTION: Minutes from 14 December 2011 are approved.
15:08:22 <Josh_Soref> RESOLUTION: Minutes from 14 December 2011 are approved.
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15:08:28 <Josh_Soref> Topic: March F2F
15:08:39 <fjh> 20-22 March 2012; Shenzhen, China, hosted by Huawei. Reminder regarding visa and invitation letter request. Logistics: http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/wiki/ShenzhenF2F20011 
15:08:41 <Josh_Soref> RRSAgent, draft minutes
15:08:41 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/01/04-dap-minutes.html Josh_Soref
15:08:49 <Josh_Soref> fjh: if you haven't gotten a visa and you need one
15:08:58 <Travis_MSFT> Present+ Travis_Leithead
15:09:07 <Josh_Soref> ... you should send in your information NOW so that they can get you your offer letter
15:09:19 <Josh_Soref> fjh: I think we need to allocate time for TF items at the F2F
15:09:28 <Josh_Soref> ... but darobin, we could coordinate this offline
15:09:30 <Josh_Soref> darobin: I agree
15:09:40 <Josh_Soref> ... the chair of the Intents TF wants to meet
15:09:47 <Josh_Soref> ... I think it would make sense to do that on the first day
15:10:00 <Josh_Soref> ... given that a number of our other items depend on Intents
15:10:05 <Josh_Soref> ... it makes sense to do it early
15:10:20 <Josh_Soref> ... He needs to survey the Intents TF to see who would attend
15:10:33 <Josh_Soref> ... I don't think it would be many outside of the regular DAP attendees
15:10:37 <Josh_Soref> ... maybe 3-5
15:10:46 <Josh_Soref> Zakim, mute me
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15:10:53 <Josh_Soref> Topic: Vibration API
15:10:56 <fjh> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2011Dec/0048.html
15:11:04 <Josh_Soref> fjh: there was a question
15:11:25 <Josh_Soref> ... what do you do if there's an invalid parameter
15:11:30 <Josh_Soref> ... is it an exception
15:11:46 <Josh_Soref> darobin: as far as I can tell, an invalid parameter should be handled by WebIDL
15:11:49 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
15:12:10 <darobin> ACTION: Reply to the Vibration API invalid parameter question
15:12:10 <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - Reply
15:12:15 <Josh_Soref> Topic: Battery Status
15:12:19 <fjh> Last Call ended 20 December 2011 (29 November 2011 publication, http://www.w3.org/TR/2011/WD-battery-status-20111129/ )
15:12:19 <fjh> Disposition of comments incomplete, https://www.w3.org/2006/02/lc-comments-tracker/43696/WD-battery-status-20111129/
15:12:59 <Josh_Soref> darobin: anssi isn't available now, right?
15:13:01 <Josh_Soref> fjh: correct
15:13:15 <Josh_Soref> darobin: for Anne, I think his comments are mostly stylistic
15:13:15 <fjh> action: fjh to send summary of LC comment status for Battery Last Call
15:13:16 <trackbot> Created ACTION-497 - Send summary of LC comment status for Battery Last Call [on Frederick Hirsch - due 2012-01-11].
15:13:46 <Josh_Soref> ... when he said "duplicitous", I think he meant "duplicates content" (as opposed to the negative meaning of the actual English word)
15:14:05 <Josh_Soref> fjh: I think we can close this out
15:14:08 <Josh_Soref> Topic: Contacts
15:14:14 <Zakim> -Cathy
15:14:15 <Josh_Soref> fjh: dom was doing some testing stuff
15:14:22 <Josh_Soref> ... I'm not sure who was working with him
15:14:26 <Zakim> +Cathy
15:14:29 <Josh_Soref> darobin: Contacts is supposed to switch to Intents
15:14:44 <Josh_Soref> fjh: how does that interact with the process?
15:14:47 <Josh_Soref> ... I think it was in LC
15:14:51 <Josh_Soref> darobin: it will return to WD
15:14:59 <Josh_Soref> Topic: Network Information
15:15:08 <Josh_Soref> fjh: there's lots of activity in the TF
15:15:19 <Josh_Soref> ... darobin, I think there's a bunch of actions to you
15:15:29 <Josh_Soref> darobin: I've been working on list with mounir
15:15:36 <Josh_Soref> ... based on where that goes, i'll close the actions
15:15:40 <Josh_Soref> ... as applicable
15:15:48 <Josh_Soref> fjh: I think that's great
15:16:09 <Josh_Soref> Topic: Action Items
15:16:18 <Josh_Soref> fjh: I don't think there's anything else left on the agenda
15:16:24 <Josh_Soref> ... but there are a lot of action items
15:16:32 <Josh_Soref> darobin: I don't think we need to look at them here
15:16:39 <Josh_Soref> ... but it would be good if people looked at theirs
15:16:45 <Josh_Soref> ... i think as a lot of them are TF related
15:17:00 <Josh_Soref> ... they should be used as input to Requirements/...
15:17:06 <Josh_Soref> Topic: AOB
15:17:11 <Josh_Soref> fjh: regrets for next week
15:17:13 <Clarke> I'll be at CES next week
15:17:14 <Josh_Soref> ... darobin, can you chair?
15:17:17 <Josh_Soref> darobin: sure
15:17:21 <Josh_Soref> fjh: Happy New Year
15:17:26 <Zakim> -Clarke
15:17:27 <Zakim> -darobin
15:17:29 <Zakim> -[Microsoft]
15:17:29 <Zakim> -richt
15:17:30 <Zakim> -fjh
15:17:35 <Zakim> -Cathy
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15:17:43 <Zakim> -wonsuk
15:18:44 <Josh_Soref> trackbot, end meeting 
15:18:44 <trackbot> Sorry, Josh_Soref, I don't understand 'trackbot, end meeting '. Please refer to http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/irc for help
15:18:58 <Josh_Soref> trackbot, end meeting
15:18:58 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
15:18:58 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been fjh, Josh_Soref, Clarke, +1.289.261.aaaa, Dsr, wonsuk, +1.781.266.aabb, Cathy, +1.314.314.aacc, +44.208.144.aadd, darobin, richt,
15:18:59 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
15:18:59 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/01/04-dap-minutes.html trackbot
15:19:00 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
15:19:00 <RRSAgent> I see 2 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2012/01/04-dap-actions.rdf :
15:19:00 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Reply to the Vibration API invalid parameter question [1]
15:19:00 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/01/04-dap-irc#T15-12-10
15:19:00 <RRSAgent> ACTION: fjh to send summary of LC comment status for Battery Last Call [2]
15:19:00 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/01/04-dap-irc#T15-13-15-1
15:19:02 <Zakim> ... [Microsoft]