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15:45:11 <MichaelC> rrsagent, make log world
15:45:18 <MichaelC> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2011Dec/0331.html
15:45:55 <MichaelC> meeting: HTML-A11y Bug Triage telecon
15:45:56 <MichaelC> chair: Michael_Cooper
15:45:58 <MichaelC> agenda+ New bugs review
15:45:59 <MichaelC> agenda+ Actions review
15:46:01 <MichaelC> agenda+ Needs more info bugs
15:46:03 <MichaelC> agenda+ Won't fix bugs
15:46:04 <MichaelC> agenda+ Fixed bugs
15:46:19 <MichaelC> regrets: Léonie_Watson, Joshue_O_Connor, Marco_Ranon, Gez_Lemon
16:02:59 <hhillen> scribe: hhillen
16:03:03 <MichaelC> zakim, next item
16:03:03 <Zakim> agendum 1. "New bugs review" taken up [from MichaelC]
16:03:09 <MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=HTML+WG&longdesc_type=allwordssubstr&longdesc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bug_id_type=anyexact&bug_id=&votes=&chfiel
16:03:11 <MichaelC> dfrom=-4w&chfieldto=Now&chfield=[Bug+creation]&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0=
16:03:25 <hhillen> MC: I did a search of new bugs in the past 4 weeks , Everett did you look at new bugs?
16:03:40 <hhillen> EZ: I did, nothing really jumped out at me 
16:03:49 <hhillen> Zakim, next item
16:03:49 <Zakim> agendum 1 was just opened, hhillen
16:04:17 <hhillen> Zakim, close this item
16:04:17 <Zakim> agendum 1 closed
16:04:18 <Zakim> I see 4 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
16:04:19 <Zakim> 2. Actions review [from MichaelC]
16:04:54 <MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?bug_status=RESOLVED&keywords=a11ytf&product=HTML%20WG&query_format=advanced&resolution=NEEDSINFO
16:05:25 <hhillen> MC: This is pretty much the same set of needs info bugs we have been looking at so far
16:05:31 <hhillen> MC: They're all assigned
16:06:02 <hhillen> EZ: That deadline in January isn' t very practical 
16:07:29 <hhillen> MC: Leonie is trying to do some individual follow up for bug owners
16:07:47 <hhillen> Zakim, close this item
16:07:47 <Zakim> I do not know what agendum had been taken up, hhillen
16:08:15 <hhillen> Zakim, next item
16:08:15 <Zakim> agendum 2. "Actions review" taken up [from MichaelC]
16:08:25 <hhillen> HH: The above notes applied to this item
16:08:28 <hhillen> Zakim, close this item
16:08:28 <Zakim> agendum 2 closed
16:08:29 <Zakim> I see 3 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
16:08:31 <hhillen> Zakim, next item
16:08:31 <Zakim> 3. Needs more info bugs [from MichaelC]
16:08:32 <Zakim> agendum 3. "Needs more info bugs" taken up [from MichaelC]
16:09:05 <hhillen> Zakim, close this item
16:09:05 <Zakim> agendum 3 closed
16:09:06 <Zakim> I see 2 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
16:09:06 <hhillen> Zakim, next item
16:09:07 <Zakim> 4. Won't fix bugs [from MichaelC]
16:09:09 <Zakim> agendum 4. "Won't fix bugs" taken up [from MichaelC]
16:09:17 <MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?bug_status=RESOLVED&keywords=a11ytf&product=HTML%20WG&query_format=advanced&resolution=WONTFIX
16:09:39 <hhillen> MC: There are 82 bugs in won't fix state
16:10:02 <hhillen> MC: We identified some high priority wont fix bugs for the task force to push back on
16:10:34 <hhillen> MC: That didn't work out so well, most of the chosen bugs we already turned into issues, or belonged to bigger sets of bugs 
16:11:07 <hhillen> MC: Should we take the reverse approach, filter out the low priority bugs?
16:11:23 <hhillen> EZ: Wouldn't that leave us with the same list?
16:12:38 <hhillen> MC: If bugs are related to an existing tracker issue (which is hopefully shown in the bug), then we should add comments to both the bug and the issue to clarify their connection
16:12:58 <hhillen> MC: That's how we can help them trying to group bugs into one tracker issue
16:13:39 <hhillen> MC: Hopefully we can propose the creation of just a few new issue, even if many bugs are assigned to those issues
16:14:12 <hhillen> MC: We could burn conference time and go through all these bugs, or we could make it homework assigments
16:14:39 <hhillen> EZ: We should use the conference time to at least do a high level grouping of the bugs
16:15:14 <hhillen> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=6496
16:16:36 <hhillen> HH: Related to Issue 31
16:19:09 <hhillen> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8716
16:19:32 <hhillen> MC: Related to text alternatives
16:19:49 <hhillen> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8827
16:19:56 <hhillen> MC: Related to text alternatives
16:20:19 <hhillen> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=9061
16:20:24 <hhillen> MC: Related to Canvas
16:20:47 <hhillen> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=9098
16:20:55 <hhillen> MC: Related to text alternatives
16:21:15 <hhillen> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=9212
16:21:16 <hhillen> MC: Related to text alternatives
16:21:37 <hhillen> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=9215
16:21:39 <hhillen> MC: Related to text alternatives
16:21:49 <hhillen> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=9216
16:21:50 <hhillen> MC: Related to text alternatives
16:22:12 <hhillen> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=9415
16:22:18 <hhillen> MC: Related to conformance
16:22:42 <hhillen> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10438
16:22:46 <hhillen> MC: Related to ARIA
16:22:55 <hhillen> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10444
16:22:56 <hhillen> MC: Related to ARIA
16:23:06 <hhillen> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10448
16:23:07 <hhillen> MC: Related to ARIA
16:23:17 <hhillen> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10449
16:23:19 <hhillen> MC: Related to ARIA
16:23:30 <hhillen> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10451
16:23:31 <hhillen> MC: Related to ARIA
16:23:38 <hhillen> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10452
16:23:39 <hhillen> MC: Related to ARIA
16:23:58 <hhillen> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10455
16:24:09 <hhillen> MC: Related to text alternatives
16:24:26 <hhillen> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10462
16:24:28 <hhillen> MC: Related to ARIA
16:24:41 <hhillen> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10482
16:24:50 <hhillen> MC: Related to text alternatives
16:25:25 <hhillen> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10642
16:25:31 <hhillen> MC: Related to media
16:25:45 <hhillen> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10708
16:25:47 <hhillen> MC: Related to text alternatives
16:25:57 <hhillen> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10782
16:26:01 <hhillen> MC: Related to accesskey
16:26:11 <hhillen> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10831
16:27:04 <hhillen> MC: Related to ARIA
16:27:21 <hhillen> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10853
16:27:23 <hhillen> MC: Related to text alternatives
16:27:35 <hhillen> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10873
16:28:42 <hhillen> MC: Related to tooltip vs title
16:28:59 <hhillen> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10903
16:29:02 <hhillen> MC: Related to ARIA
16:29:15 <hhillen> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10906
16:29:29 <hhillen> MC: Related to conformance
16:29:58 <hhillen> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10914
16:30:02 <hhillen> MC: Related to ARIA
16:30:16 <hhillen> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10967
16:30:32 <hhillen> MC: Related to text alternatives
16:30:39 <hhillen> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10994
16:30:49 <hhillen> MC: Related to text access key
16:31:08 <hhillen> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=11140
16:31:10 <hhillen> MC: Related to text access key
16:31:23 <hhillen> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=11240
16:31:30 <hhillen> MC: Related to canvas
16:31:50 <hhillen> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=11593
16:31:53 <hhillen> MC: Related to media
16:32:02 <hhillen> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12306
16:32:04 <hhillen> MC: Related to canvas
16:32:16 <hhillen> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12546
16:32:19 <hhillen> MC: Related to media
16:32:42 <hhillen> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12545
16:32:46 <hhillen> MC: Related to media
16:33:06 <hhillen> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12590
16:33:22 <hhillen> MC: Related to text alternatives
16:33:35 <hhillen> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12906
16:33:42 <hhillen> MC: Related to canvas
16:33:52 <hhillen> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12985
16:34:54 <hhillen> MC: Related to feature request
16:35:17 <hhillen> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13275
16:35:22 <hhillen> MC: Related to media
16:35:34 <hhillen> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13333
16:35:35 <hhillen> MC: Related to media
16:35:45 <hhillen> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13390
16:37:42 <hhillen> MC: Related to conformance
16:37:52 <hhillen> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13428
16:37:58 <hhillen> MC: Related to text alternatives
16:38:10 <hhillen> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13429
16:38:28 <hhillen> MC: Related to text contenteditable
16:38:49 <hhillen> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13430
16:39:20 <hhillen> MC: Related to feature request
16:39:57 <hhillen> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13434
16:40:01 <hhillen> MC: Related to media
16:40:33 <hhillen> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13435
16:40:34 <hhillen> MC: Related to media
16:40:40 <hhillen> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13436
16:40:41 <hhillen> MC: Related to media
16:40:55 <hhillen> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13442
16:41:46 <hhillen> MC: Related to conformance
16:41:56 <hhillen> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13449
16:42:04 <hhillen> MC: Related to text alternatives
16:42:25 <hhillen> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13451
16:42:44 <hhillen> MC: Related to feature request
16:42:55 <hhillen> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13460
16:43:13 <hhillen> MC: Related to feature request
16:43:25 <hhillen> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13461
16:43:30 <hhillen> MC: Related to text alternatives
16:44:33 <hhillen> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13512
16:44:36 <hhillen> MC: Related to feature request
16:45:43 <hhillen> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13513
16:46:02 <hhillen> MC: Related to feature request (i.e. misc)
16:46:23 <hhillen> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13524
16:46:29 <hhillen> MC: Related to drag & drop
16:46:46 <hhillen> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13541
16:46:53 <hhillen> MC: Related to ARIA mapping 
16:47:21 <hhillen> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13544
16:47:24 <hhillen> MC: Related to media
16:47:31 <hhillen> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13546
16:47:33 <hhillen> MC: Related to media
16:47:44 <hhillen> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13548
16:47:53 <hhillen> MC: Related to conformance
16:48:03 <hhillen> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13552
16:49:16 <hhillen> MC: Related to misc
16:49:38 <hhillen> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13553
16:49:39 <hhillen> MC: Related to misc
16:50:14 <hhillen> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13561
16:50:39 <hhillen> MC: Related to conformance for user agents
16:50:47 <hhillen> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13566
16:50:53 <hhillen> MC: Related to misc
16:51:06 <hhillen> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13572
16:51:58 <hhillen> Related to keyboard access (previously known as access key)
16:52:40 <hhillen> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13573
16:52:45 <hhillen> Related to keyboard access 
16:52:51 <hhillen> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13575
16:52:55 <hhillen> Related to keyboard access 
16:53:06 <hhillen> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13624
16:53:10 <hhillen> Related to media
16:53:17 <hhillen> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13637
16:53:20 <hhillen> Related to media
16:53:38 <hhillen> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13638
16:53:40 <hhillen> Related to medi
16:54:00 <hhillen> s medi/conformance/
16:54:11 <hhillen> s /medi/conformance/
16:55:37 <hhillen> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13639
16:55:54 <hhillen> Related to conformance 
16:56:08 <hhillen> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13650
16:56:30 <hhillen> Related to feature request
16:56:38 <hhillen> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13651
16:56:46 <hhillen> Related to text alternatives
16:56:56 <hhillen> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13655
16:57:50 <hhillen> MC: Related to misc
16:58:00 <hhillen> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13668
16:58:20 <hhillen> MC: Related to misc
16:58:31 <hhillen> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13692
16:58:34 <hhillen> MC: Related to media
16:58:43 <hhillen> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13693
16:59:03 <hhillen> MC: Related to misc
16:59:23 <hhillen> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13727
16:59:36 <hhillen> MC: Related to text alternatives
16:59:47 <hhillen> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=14107
17:00:00 <hhillen> MC: Related to misc
17:00:13 <hhillen> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=14419
17:00:16 <hhillen> MC: Related to canvas
17:02:45 <hhillen> Topic: Fixed bugs
17:03:02 <hhillen> MC: DO we need to split up the list of fixed bugs as homework as well?
17:03:15 <hhillen> EZ: We're not likely to finish that this week
17:03:32 <hhillen> MC: Let's do that next week then, the wont fix bugs are more important anyway
17:06:37 <hhillen> RRSAgent, make minutes
17:06:37 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/01/03-a11y-bugs-minutes.html hhillen
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