ISSUE-79: What is the value of a literal whose datatype IRI is not a datatype?

undefined-datatype

What is the value of a literal whose datatype IRI is not a datatype?

State:
CLOSED
Product:
RDF Concepts
Raised by:
Richard Cyganiak
Opened on:
2011-11-09
Description:
The RDF Concepts spec (in both 2004 and 1.1 versions) does not answer the question what's the value of a literal where the datatype IRI doesn't actually denote a datatype, like <"foo",http://example.com/not-a-datatype>. This is surprising, as there is a section that normatively defines the value of *all other* literals.

There are many possibilities:

(i) the spec leaves it undefined
(ii) that's not a valid RDF graph
(iii) it's a valid RDF graph, but the value, if any, is unknown
(iv) it's a valid RDF graph, and the literal is ill-typed

This should be made explicit.

The status quo is (i). I believe that the model theory says it's (iii).
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  1. Re: RDF-ISSUE-79 (undefined-datatype): What is the value of a literal whose datatype IRI is not a datatype? [RDF Concepts] (from phayes@ihmc.us on 2011-11-21)
  2. Re: RDF-ISSUE-79 (undefined-datatype): What is the value of a literal whose datatype IRI is not a datatype? [RDF Concepts] (from richard@cyganiak.de on 2011-11-21)
  3. Re: RDF-ISSUE-79 (undefined-datatype): What is the value of a literal whose datatype IRI is not a datatype? [RDF Concepts] (from phayes@ihmc.us on 2011-11-20)
  4. Re: RDF-ISSUE-79 (undefined-datatype): What is the value of a literal whose datatype IRI is not a datatype? [RDF Concepts] (from richard@cyganiak.de on 2011-11-20)
  5. Re: RDF-ISSUE-79 (undefined-datatype): What is the value of a literal whose datatype IRI is not a datatype? [RDF Concepts] (from phayes@ihmc.us on 2011-11-18)
  6. Re: RDF-ISSUE-79 (undefined-datatype): What is the value of a literal whose datatype IRI is not a datatype? [RDF Concepts] (from phayes@ihmc.us on 2011-11-18)
  7. Re: RDF-ISSUE-79 (undefined-datatype): What is the value of a literal whose datatype IRI is not a datatype? [RDF Concepts] (from phayes@ihmc.us on 2011-11-18)
  8. Re: RDF-ISSUE-79 (undefined-datatype): What is the value of a literal whose datatype IRI is not a datatype? [RDF Concepts] (from ivan@w3.org on 2011-11-17)
  9. Re: RDF-ISSUE-79 (undefined-datatype): What is the value of a literal whose datatype IRI is not a datatype? [RDF Concepts] (from antoine.zimmermann@emse.fr on 2011-11-17)
  10. Re: RDF-ISSUE-79 (undefined-datatype): What is the value of a literal whose datatype IRI is not a datatype? [RDF Concepts] (from richard@cyganiak.de on 2011-11-16)
  11. Re: RDF-ISSUE-79 (undefined-datatype): What is the value of a literal whose datatype IRI is not a datatype? [RDF Concepts] (from richard@cyganiak.de on 2011-11-16)
  12. Re: RDF-ISSUE-79 (undefined-datatype): What is the value of a literal whose datatype IRI is not a datatype? [RDF Concepts] (from antoine.zimmermann@emse.fr on 2011-11-15)
  13. Re: RDF-ISSUE-79 (undefined-datatype): What is the value of a literal whose datatype IRI is not a datatype? [RDF Concepts] (from ivan@w3.org on 2011-11-15)
  14. Re: RDF-ISSUE-79 (undefined-datatype): What is the value of a literal whose datatype IRI is not a datatype? [RDF Concepts] (from richard@cyganiak.de on 2011-11-15)
  15. Re: RDF-ISSUE-79 (undefined-datatype): What is the value of a literal whose datatype IRI is not a datatype? [RDF Concepts] (from ivan@w3.org on 2011-11-15)
  16. Re: RDF-ISSUE-79 (undefined-datatype): What is the value of a literal whose datatype IRI is not a datatype? [RDF Concepts] (from richard@cyganiak.de on 2011-11-15)
  17. Re: RDF-ISSUE-79 (undefined-datatype): What is the value of a literal whose datatype IRI is not a datatype? [RDF Concepts] (from antoine.zimmermann@emse.fr on 2011-11-14)
  18. Re: RDF-ISSUE-79 (undefined-datatype): What is the value of a literal whose datatype IRI is not a datatype? [RDF Concepts] (from antoine.zimmermann@emse.fr on 2011-11-14)
  19. Re: RDF-ISSUE-79 (undefined-datatype): What is the value of a literal whose datatype IRI is not a datatype? [RDF Concepts] (from antoine.zimmermann@emse.fr on 2011-11-14)
  20. Re: RDF-ISSUE-79 (undefined-datatype): What is the value of a literal whose datatype IRI is not a datatype? [RDF Concepts] (from richard@cyganiak.de on 2011-11-10)
  21. Re: RDF-ISSUE-79 (undefined-datatype): What is the value of a literal whose datatype IRI is not a datatype? [RDF Concepts] (from alexhall@revelytix.com on 2011-11-10)
  22. Re: RDF-ISSUE-79 (undefined-datatype): What is the value of a literal whose datatype IRI is not a datatype? [RDF Concepts] (from richard@cyganiak.de on 2011-11-10)
  23. Re: RDF-ISSUE-79 (undefined-datatype): What is the value of a literal whose datatype IRI is not a datatype? [RDF Concepts] (from andy.seaborne@epimorphics.com on 2011-11-10)
  24. Re: RDF-ISSUE-79 (undefined-datatype): What is the value of a literal whose datatype IRI is not a datatype? [RDF Concepts] (from antoine.zimmermann@emse.fr on 2011-11-10)
  25. Re: RDF-ISSUE-79 (undefined-datatype): What is the value of a literal whose datatype IRI is not a datatype? [RDF Concepts] (from ivan@w3.org on 2011-11-10)
  26. Re: RDF-ISSUE-79 (undefined-datatype): What is the value of a literal whose datatype IRI is not a datatype? [RDF Concepts] (from danbri@danbri.org on 2011-11-09)
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Related notes:

The person who originally raised the issue (me) is satisfied with the new wording in the spec, as discussed here:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-wg/2011Nov/0167.html

Hence, setting to PENDINGREVIEW.

Richard Cyganiak, 21 Nov 2011, 20:23:49

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