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PIL OWL Ontology Meeting 2012-06-18
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Meeting Information
prov-wg - Modeling Task Force - OWL group telecon
- previous meeting
- date: 2012-06-17
- time: 9am PT, 12pm ET, 5pm GMT
- via Zakim Bridge +1.617.761.6200, conference 695 ("OWL")
- wiki page: http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/wiki/PIL_OWL_Ontology_Meeting_2012-06-17
- titan page: http://titanpad.com/BoxmXMpFrQ
Attendees
- Tim
- Daniel
- Satya
- Jun
- Stian
regrets:
- Stephan
- Khalid
Agenda
For the issues that you are assigned:
- describe the original concern
- describe any perspectives already expressed
- recommend next step, or propose a solution
ISSUES
Stephan
- http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/track/issues/267 - justify all subproperty assertions (of tracedTo)
- 2nd pass?
- (Stephan) I somehow missed Tim's response to my first pass, will read and make 2nd pass
Khalid
- Khalid mocked up what a highlight would look like. (with strong HTML elements)
Jun
- TODO: read through the collection parts and raise any concerns, if any
- I am happy with the rewording
- I suggested on the list to close my issue 391
- Review Dani's action points re. issue 381
- Finally done. Email sent out this afternoon BST
Stian
- http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/track/issues/406
- Delegation wrong direction.
- Stian: confused his colleague. Opposite direction.
- ... with name change, it is now confusing.
- ... hadDelegate to be the primary, but that doens't follow the back in time rule.
- Stian: proposal is to rename.
Tim
Actual modeling
- http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/track/issues/83 prov:inverse local names
- http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/wiki/Inverse_properties_discussion#Inverse_properties_discussion
- narrative for the appendix: http://aquarius.tw.rpi.edu/prov-wg/prov-o#names-of-inverse-properties
- TODO(still): respond to Stian's feedback http://www.w3.org/mid/CAPRnXt=DYfhtPJsYrq0vKsW2McZnVo6qqXR5pTP7oANA6BMLZA@mail.gmail.com
- TODO: Tim to review the list.
- https://www.w3.org/2011/prov/track/issues/392 hasProvenanceIn / isReferencedBy / contextualizationOf
- Reminder that it's in DM and PROV-O, so if you have severe objections voice them to the WG.
Awaiting DM
DM is in review; no more waiting :-)
Editorial
- http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/track/issues/336 pre-WD2 feedback
- These are editorial, and thus second priority before LC.
- http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/track/issues/382 Jun's feedback part deux.
- prov:qualifiedForm - comment does not reflect "pointing at both" - Stephan.
- prov:qualifiedFrom should change 'prov:Involved subclass' -> 'prov:Involvement subclass'
- This is an issue with prov:wasTracedTo and all its sub-properties.
- https://www.w3.org/2011/prov/track/issues/388 (tools and demos)
- https://www.w3.org/2011/prov/track/issues/389 extensions to prov-o
- prov:category, prov:component ... no links. TODO: use URI instead of the literal strings.
- Stian: list both the justices and KeyValue;Tim: done: make a new instance of collection (generic).
- http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/track/issues/83 prov:inverse local names
- http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/wiki/Inverse_properties_discussion#Inverse_properties_discussion
- narrative for the appendix: http://aquarius.tw.rpi.edu/prov-wg/prov-o#names-of-inverse-properties
- Stian: got part way through, changed some things.
- ... derivation's usage TODO: Tim to check.same style on usage and generation on a Derivation's inverse.
- .. TODO: Tim to look over the list.
- Dani: spacing problems
- TODO: Tim to respond to Dani to email with list of "outdated" prov-o html aspects.
Someone please take
- http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/track/issues/377 RL++ justifications appendix
Backburner
- http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/track/issues/349 [good] turtle examples in cross ref
- This is an ongoing activity. Anyone up for reviewing and enhancing the examples?
- Stian: html and owl are alternatives. HTML comes from owl.
- .. not everytihng in the owl is reflected in the HTML or opposite
- ... views them as alternateOf
- Jun: can we say the owl is for machines?:) html is for human.
- Stephan: two representations of the same resource, the resource is the rec.
- Khalid: use it in the eg of alternateOf.
- Tim: are we okay that the HTML doesn't reflect "every triple" in OWL.
- Group: yes. that's silly.
Fading usefulness
- http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/track/issues/276 coverage
- automation still down.
- relying upon good ol' brow sweat.
Daniel
- http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/track/issues/381 Jun's feedback on 3.2 expanded terms
- Daniel: haven't gotten to it. Will do by Thursday. Tomorrow morning.
- ... removed the Note, added missing Location etc. All there now.
- TODO: SoftwareAgent is missing in examples.
- done: Tim to regenerate prov-o on aquarius. TODO: Dani check that it's "right".
- Daniel: Done, I will answer to Jun's answer to my answer.
- Daniel: will try to read Paolo's new Collections.
Satya
- https://www.w3.org/2011/prov/track/issues/372 qualified prop chains
- (prov:qualifiedUsage prov:entity) rdfs:subPropertyOf prov:used .
- http://aquarius.tw.rpi.edu/prov-wg/prov-o#prov-o-owl-profile
- Use of non-simple property in IrrefexiveObjectProperty axiom: [IrreflexiveObjectProperty(<http://www.w3.org/ns/prov#wasGeneratedBy>) in <http://www.w3.org/ns/prov#>
- Why the new "RL++ errors"?
- Jun/Stian/Satya will take a look and report back what that error message means so that we can include them in the HMTL page (send emails to 372 chain)
- Satya: playing with protege OWL API. Trying to recreate the error.
- ... Stian sent a summary.
- ... shouldn't be a problem
- Stian: thinks a bug in the OWL API.
- Jun: tried to reproduce the error, but it never worked (never got anything back).
AOB
How would you encode http://aquarius.tw.rpi.edu/prov-wg/prov-o#acknowledgements in prov-o?